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All aboard the hype train: Fiero Plastics reproducing GT Tail lights Jan 2015 by Shho13
Started on: 11-27-2014 10:52 PM
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Report this Post04-04-2015 04:06 AM Click Here to See the Profile for Shho13Click Here to Email Shho13Send a Private Message to Shho13Edit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
Don't quote me on it, but on the Fiero Plastics Facebook page that he ran he had a picture of what looked like a prototype set, and they looked spot on. I think they were made of lexan plastic or something if I remember correctly.

I honestly think he was close to figuring it out...

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I do NOT want to seem like I am bashing Todd. He was a great guy and tried hard to produce plastic parts for the Fiero HOWEVER, none of his ideas would have worked long term and I discussed this with him many times online. The reason is that he used a liquid urethane plastic for everything. When used in a thinner form (center console skeleton), it will break as soon as you apply pressure from resting your arm on it. That type of liquid plastic is used for prototyping and testing.....not final production. He never fully completed any of his projects due to his medical condition as seen in almost all of his threads. The taillights on his page as well as other finished Fiero items were all stock photos or borrowed from different websites.
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I just went ahead and spent alot of money buying a pristine set of OEM with no delamination.

I figure the GT will get painted next year.

I still need to get new carpet, a new headliner, refurbish the wheels, recharge the AC and a few small things until then

I just finished the dew wipe so both are replaced, got the power windows and locks working, had to get new actuators, and a regulator, but had to change the motor to a new one.

The tailights sit in waiting.
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Originally posted by busa_powered:

I just went ahead and spent alot of money buying a pristine set of OEM with no delamination.

I figure the GT will get painted next year.

I still need to get new carpet, a new headliner, refurbish the wheels, recharge the AC and a few small things until then

I just finished the dew wipe so both are replaced, got the power windows and locks working, had to get new actuators, and a regulator, but had to change the motor to a new one.

The tailights sit in waiting.


Awesome, you are almost in the exact spot I am in with my car, except I am gonna paint mine this summer I am just gonna do the dew wipes and stuff when I take the body panels off for easier access and then I can put the new window tinting on at the same time. I am just waiting for my new sail panels from Fiero Fiberglass to show up to start getting estimates on the paint job.

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Awesome, you are almost in the exact spot I am in with my car, except I am gonna paint mine this summer I am just gonna do the dew wipes and stuff when I take the body panels off for easier access and then I can put the new window tinting on at the same time. I am just waiting for my new sail panels from Fiero Fiberglass to show up to start getting estimates on the paint job.




Yeah I will have sail panels replaced when I have it painted. Figure they have something stronger than double sided tape.


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Originally posted by busa_powered:
Yeah I will have sail panels replaced when I have it painted. Figure they have something stronger than double sided tape.



Make sure to use a lot of silicone in the areas that are marked in my photo. The most important area is the front edge of the window. Notice the black silicone just behind the drivers door. That keeps high pressure air from getting behind the window and prying it off the car. The silicone should be applied along the front edge so that when dry, you can't even hook a fingernail under the lip of the window.

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So what is the hard part, the lense or the base? What makes these so incredibly difficult to reproduce?
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Originally posted by IMSA GT:


Make sure to use a lot of silicone in the areas that are marked in my photo. The most important area is the front edge of the window. Notice the black silicone just behind the drivers door. That keeps high pressure air from getting behind the window and prying it off the car. The silicone should be applied along the front edge so that when dry, you can't even hook a fingernail under the lip of the window.




Is there a specific silicone that you would recommend? Also, would you also put double sided tape on there?

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Just regular RTV silicone in a tube. It doesn't have to be black but it would blend in better on the front of the window. I would use the double sided tape only in the same area as the factory.
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I think it would have been better if the fastback had a frame for the sail panel similar to the notchback only cut down to fit the opening
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Yes I'm a tail light lens dreamer.

Does anybody have a CAD drawing of the GT light lens and is anyone aware of a patent? I checked uspto & https://www.google.com/sear...l=en&tbm=pts&start=0 and found some stuff around injection molding but that's it.

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There's not gonna be a patent for a reproduction tail light
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There's not gonna be a patent for a reproduction tail light


He's asking if GM has a patent for the original light design. But even if there is, it probably doesn't have exact measurements. If there is such a patent, it would have been filed in 1985 or 1986 most likely (the fastback lenses all have the year 86 molded into them for the DOT numbering).

Would be nice to not spam every lens thread that hasn't fallen to the archive yet, to post the exact same thing, though.
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That's what I'm looking for dobey. Sorry to spam the site, that wasn't my original intent.

 
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He's asking if GM has a patent for the original light design. But even if there is, it probably doesn't have exact measurements. If there is such a patent, it would have been filed in 1985 or 1986 most likely (the fastback lenses all have the year 86 molded into them for the DOT numbering).

Would be nice to not spam every lens thread that hasn't fallen to the archive yet, to post the exact same thing, though.


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Figured I'd post this here...

If our new friend Slammed is telling the truth, we may finally have reproduction tail lights on the way...

I don't know about you guys, but I am getting back on this Hype Train!!!

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