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KYB or MONROE by newfiejeff
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Hi, which is the better strut to use on the fiero KYB or Monroe? I currently have 17 inch low profile tires that hits a little harder then stock wheels.
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I think I have my answer. KYB is stiffer and Monroe is more like stock.

Still if anyone wants to chime in they can.
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Your second post nails it. I put KYB shocks and struts on my 84 a few years ago a and the front shocks are too stiff for me. They do handle better, but I just picked up a pair of Monroe's for the front.
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I have Monroe struts with about 3000 miles on them and I think they are too soft. Its almost like one of them are showing signs of being worn out. I don't think I would buy Monroe now after experiencing the ones I have. I have KYP up front and they seems fine.

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The Monroe struts are not expensive, but it seems that they are inconsistent. It's easy to get a bad one right out of the box....I suppose most customers never notice and don't care....but you do notice on a Fiero. If you want to go to the trouble of taking the bad one off and getting another one, I'm sure they replace it no charge. If you get good ones, they seem to be fine.
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Would agree that KYB is a much stiffer shock that gives better handling but a hard ride. I have them on one Fiero and Monroes on another.
When I compare the both; my opinion: KYB for a hobby or race car. Monroe if the car is driven often.

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I have Sensa-tracs which have been working very well for the past 8 years.

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Originally posted by Arns85GT:

I have Sensa-tracs which have been working very well for the past 8 years.


I'm glad you mentioned "Sensa-Tracs" because Monroe makes several models of shocks and struts. Just saying "Monroe" (as has been earlier posted) doesn't narrow it down enough.

I used Monroe Sensa-Trac shocks and struts in my lowered and stiffened (cut springs) '84 for daily driving and autocross for four years. Love the way that car feels.

I now daily drive and autocross an '88 Formula. When I first got the car a year ago, I put new Monroe Sensa-Trac shocks and struts in it with the stock springs. Car felt okay, but I didn't like the soft stock springs. A friend gave me a set of four '88 lowering springs along with near new KYB shocks and struts. Since I now had shocks and struts made by both companies in my hands (literally), I compared them. I wanted to use the stiffest ones, the ones with the most resistance to both compression and rebound. You might be surprised at what I found.

The KYB shocks were stiffer than the Monroe Sensa-Trac shocks. No surprise there.

However... the Monroe Sensa-Trac struts were stiffer than the KYB struts.

So I now have KYB shocks on the front of the Formula, and Monroe Sensa-Trac struts on the back.

The Formula feels pretty good, but I'm still not satisfied with the lack of stiffness in the front. I'll be removing the '88 front lowering springs and replacing them with a pair of cut '84-'87 front springs. I'll continue to use my current choice of shocks and struts (and rear lowering springs).

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Originally posted by Imnuts:

I have Monroe struts with about 3000 miles on them and I think they are too soft. Its almost like one of them are showing signs of being worn out. I don't think I would buy Monroe now after experiencing the ones I have. I have KYP up front and they seems fine.


I do have the Monroe 71814 - Sensa-Trac Rear Struts on my 88 GT. They sure do seem bouncy, maybe I have a bad one that only lasted 500 miles. But again they are inexpensive. I just don't want to have it realigned again this soon.

Have you thought of converting to coil overs? I have seen many links here that do it cheaply or very expensively. I not sure of the ride but I know they would be adjustable.
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Originally posted by Patrick:
The KYB shocks were stiffer than the Monroe Sensa-Trac shocks. No surprise there.

However... the Monroe Sensa-Trac struts were stiffer than the KYB struts.

So I now have KYB shocks on the front of the Formula, and Monroe Sensa-Trac struts on the back.


When you buy them it says "KYBs gas-a-just shocks and rear GR-2 struts" so they are gas in the front and not gas in the rear. I like the Konis but Monroe would be great for the price. The Sensa Trac get stiffer when they are not in the normal ride height range so it may be that a lowered car rides stiffer than a stock ride height car would with the same Sensa Tracs.

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Report this Post11-14-2014 02:15 AM Click Here to See the Profile for PatrickClick Here to Email PatrickSend a Private Message to PatrickEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post

Hey Steve, good to hear from you. It's been awhile!
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Report this Post11-14-2014 10:15 PM Click Here to See the Profile for newfiejeffClick Here to Email newfiejeffSend a Private Message to newfiejeffEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
Well I ordered the sensatracs with a lifetime warranty and about $110 tax in. I really wanted the stiffer ride but with low profile 17" tires and the roads, I wanted a little forgiveness.
I will keep you posted on what I find.
So when you say you lowered the springs do it mean that you cut them off a little.....sorry if it's a stupid question!!
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