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84 problem by sgosser
Started on: 10-23-2014 01:20 PM
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Report this Post10-23-2014 01:20 PM Click Here to See the Profile for sgosserClick Here to Email sgosserSend a Private Message to sgosserEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
I just acquired an 84 that runs good for 300 bucks. It does have a few issues. the main one is the radiator fan not working. someone ran a wire direct to battery and had it on a toggle switch. I would rather put it back to original. I took off resistor at fan and it is shorted. I tested the wires coming to the relay and no voltage on any with key off. Fuse looks good but my meter has become unreliable in the ohm/fuse features. That is as far as I have gotten. I think there is supposed to be hot on that relay, if so could someone please point me to the next area to check? thanks
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Report this Post10-23-2014 03:00 PM Click Here to See the Profile for Gall757Send a Private Message to Gall757Edit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
The big issue is why the re-wire... something was wrong that the PO did not fix... it's all supposed to be hot until it gets to the switch on the engine.
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I do not know. I am gonna have to explore and test it all i suppose. The fan does work hooked direct, and the resistor is bad. That is what I know for sure. I hope the po just didn't take the time to check everything. The resistor is bypassed in the hi mode if I am seeing this wiring correctly. Guess I need to back track from there.
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Report this Post10-24-2014 11:15 AM Click Here to See the Profile for sgosserClick Here to Email sgosserSend a Private Message to sgosserEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
resistor tested bad so i went to parts store. They found one they said would work. i took it home and tested it with meter. 1.5 ohms. thats a little high isn't it? I do not know if i should try it or not. any advice? thanks.
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I tried something today. I saw in a post that I could use a green wire with white stripe behind the accelerator for keyed power to the fan. I checked it with a meter and it had 12 volts with key on. I spliced in the hot wire to the fan and nothing happened. Now there is no voltage on the wire. I took fan wire off and the voltage is still gone. fuses check good. Could someone tell me what that wire is for? I am not sure what I have messed up. Hope not too bad. thanks.
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You Ground green wires to turn on fan relay for low or high speeds.

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Report this Post10-27-2014 12:12 AM Click Here to See the Profile for sgosserClick Here to Email sgosserSend a Private Message to sgosserEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
I may have to go by what you posted. The po had it direct from the battery on a toggle switch. I want it to be automatic. I know the resistor is bad and hard to find. I thought I would try wiring to key power for now. the green wire I tried has a white stripe and I know it had 12 volts before I messed with it. I do have electrical experience but do not have any wiring diagrams to go by. the green and white wire comes from under the dash and through the firewall at a connector behind the gas pedal. I can't get 12 volts on it now so I fear I have done some damage. If someone has any info on this wire I would appreciate it.
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Report this Post10-27-2014 09:47 PM Click Here to See the Profile for fierohohoClick Here to Email fierohohoSend a Private Message to fierohohoEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
When I got my 84 the resistor was bad also, I bypassed it and found the fan would not run when the coolant temp got high enough that it should run, I also had no reading on the temp gauge.

What I found after quite a bit of digging was the previous owner had replaced the temp sender on the engine that feeds the temp gauge and turns on the radiator fan with a new one.

I found out that if you order that part from GM and they do a computer look-up it gives a number for a Fan Switch which is incorrect, the incorrect sender had benn installed in my car by the previous owner.

When I figured out that issue and installed the correst sender everything worked great.

Does your temp gauge work when you run the car?

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Report this Post10-28-2014 12:31 AM Click Here to See the Profile for sgosserClick Here to Email sgosserSend a Private Message to sgosserEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
yeah the temp gauge works. I went through the same as you with my 85 fiero. I haven't had time to mess with the car today. I am baffled as to what I could have done to lose the 12 volts on that wire. I am gonna recheck the fuses tomorrow.
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