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Striping Application by ILVMYGT
Started on: 10-06-2013 11:08 AM
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I am putting a pearl essence stripe on my hood and need some help doing it. We were looking for something subtle. The plan is to base coat, tape off the stripe, apply the clear with pearl essence, then pull the tape and clear coat. I am using Deltron base with clear. I have been practicing with on smaller panels as I paint other panels, but I have some questions.

The Delton says you can tape after 4 hours. Should I wait longer? How long?

After I apply the pearl essence how long should I wait to put the tape?

After I pull the tape how long should I wait to apply the clear?

After I pull the tape, if there is any tape residue can I wipe the panel with a cleaner like prepsol?

How long should I wait to top coat over the pearl essence?

Anything else I should be concerned about?

Thanks
Frank

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Roger Garrison is our premier paint guy, I wouldn't even attempt to answer this one, there are so many variables to this.

if he doesn't post soon send him a PM.

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Make sure you are using the" Blue " fine line masking to edge the stripes. there should Not be any tape residue.
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Report this Post10-06-2013 08:43 PM Click Here to See the Profile for rogergarrisonClick Here to Email rogergarrisonSend a Private Message to rogergarrisonEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
If I understand, your going to paint the hood with basecoat color, then tape a stripe with only pearle coat, then clearing the whole hood ... correct ?

I do lots of multi color paint jobs so heres how I do it.

Paint your basecoat on the hood...only 2 coats or just enough to cover. Those 2 coats should be dry enough at room temp after 1 1/2 - 2 hours. Tape the lines with blue 3M tape, Lightly press the tape down and use real automotive masking paper (waxed) so it wont bleed thru and soften the basecolor. MAKE SURE that you masked carefully so none of the second color gets thru to the base (or you have to start over from the begining, touching up the basecoat.) Spray your pearle coats...(2-4). IMMEDIATELY pull off the paper and tape being careful not to touch any of the painted parts. Put down your 3 coats of clear topcoat. It must dry at least overnite at room temp. Then you can block sand the edge of the stripe level with 1000-1500 wet sandpaper. Buff it out the next day. It gets harder if you let it dry longer. DO NOT TACK OFF EITHER OF THE COLORS BEFORE YOU CLEAR IT.

I painted my Fiero 'Raptor' in 4 colors of graphincs in one day and cleared it.

AGAIN...DONT leave the masking paper or tape on after you spray the stripe for more than a few minutes. The reducers can soak thru in the paint and leave tape imprints. You wont have any tape residue to clean...so DONT TOUCH either color before its cleared. Anything you do will show in the final clear permanently. (tape prints, paper prints, and metallics/ pearles will smear or streak and will look awful when out in the sun after its buffed out.)
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See I told you the old man would know how to do it.

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Originally posted by ILVMYGT:

I am putting a pearl essence stripe on my hood and need some help doing it. We were looking for something subtle. The plan is to base coat, tape off the stripe, apply the clear with pearl essence, then pull the tape and clear coat. I am using Deltron base with clear. I have been practicing with on smaller panels as I paint other panels, but I have some questions.

The Delton says you can tape after 4 hours. Should I wait longer? How long?

After I apply the pearl essence how long should I wait to put the tape?

After I pull the tape how long should I wait to apply the clear?

After I pull the tape, if there is any tape residue can I wipe the panel with a cleaner like prepsol?

How long should I wait to top coat over the pearl essence?

Anything else I should be concerned about?

Thanks
Frank




Amount of time to tape depends on the temp & the reducer you use. I usually use a quick reducer (for the ambient temp) & can tape in about an hour.
If you're mixing powered pearl in clear you'll get a milky look until the light hits it to bring out the pearl. Use a pearl made for 3-stage paint (liquid basecoat) to avoid that. (Or use the real liquid pearl made to mix with clear if you can find it).
I would give the second (pearl) base at least a few minutes to dry before pulling the tape. If you pull it while wet, you'll get strings of wet paint dropping off into the paint.
You can usually top coat with clear 20 minutes after any basecoat. Read the tech sheets for the paint you're using.
You'll have to put more than three coats of clear on the edge of the stripe if you want to sand it smooth to buff it. I usually put at least 5. Trust me, you don't want to sand into the stripe after all this work. You won't be able to just go back & spot in the pearl - you'll have to sand it all smooth & start all over with the base color.
DO A TEST PANEL before doing the car. This way you'll know what works & what doesn't, & how it will look when finished.
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Ill agree with some of that. The temp of the reducer does make a difference how quick it dries. I ONLY buy the fastest reducer myself. The clear I use does not use any reducer, its shot full strength, so 3 coats is even enough to DA sand without going thru....BUT you are right that you want to make sure you get enough on it. A lot also depends on your gun and spraying style. I have a gun that puts out almost all paint and no air...no overspray. It also lays down a thick coat. With my style and gun...with my clear is almost 1/8" thick with 3 coats. I can bury even MetalFlake. So this was all more of a reference rather than totally specific due to all the variables. Another words, your coat is almost always different from any other painters 'coat' and you have to adjust. You may need to spray 5 clear coats if you do thinner coats. Ive always felt that 'more' is not always better...too thick can cause more problems than too thin. You might just hit the edges of the stripe an extra time with each coat... You then get 6 on just the edges to sand and 3 on the rest. When you sand, your going to take 1-2 coats clear back off.
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Report this Post12-15-2013 10:09 PM Click Here to See the Profile for ILVMYGTClick Here to Email ILVMYGTSend a Private Message to ILVMYGTEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
So I got around to putting the stripe on the hood.





Thanks for the help.

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