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biggest fiero wheels possible? by JT.86FieroGT
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10-02-2013 09:59 PM Click Here to See the Profile for JT.86FieroGTClick Here to Email JT.86FieroGTSend a Private Message to JT.86FieroGTEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post

Does anyone know the largest size of wheels that can fit on a basic 86 gt fiero?
I have 17 inch rims that were on the car when i bought it (aren't stock). The wheels are kind of ugly so I will probably switch them out for something custom when/if I have the money.
just by looking I'd say that at least 20s with thin tires could fit easily

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10-02-2013 10:53 PM Click Here to See the Profile for FieroBoboClick Here to Email FieroBoboSend a Private Message to FieroBoboEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post

JT,
The topic of widest possible wheels on the back of a Fiero has been discussed and debated many, many times here on the Forum.
As a starting point you should click on the Forum's [SEARCH] button that in on the upper right side of every page.
Then where it says SEARCH: , type in "wide wheels" ;
then where it says IN: select "Entire Forum and Archives"
Finally click on the [SEARCH] button .
That should give you a list of 40 or more threads on this topic.

That being said most folks seem to be running 6" - 8" wide wheels usually with an offset of 30mm - 45mm.
As for tire sizes 225mm - 255mm seem to be pretty common.
With a stock body I have read of some folks who have managed to fit 9" rims with 275/40 tires. However that usually required running coilover shocks and a careful choice of offset to get them to fit without rubbing.

I hope this info proves helpful. Good luck with your search.
And please keep us posted as to what you finally decide to do and how well it worked out for you.

Again Good Luck.

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10-03-2013 08:56 AM Click Here to See the Profile for LB23Send a Private Message to LB23Edit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post

 
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Originally posted by FieroBobo:

JT,
The topic of widest possible wheels on the back of a Fiero has been discussed and debated many, many times here on the Forum.
As a starting point you should click on the Forum's [SEARCH] button that in on the upper right side of every page.
Then where it says SEARCH: , type in "wide wheels" ;
then where it says IN: select "Entire Forum and Archives"
Finally click on the [SEARCH] button .
That should give you a list of 40 or more threads on this topic.

That being said most folks seem to be running 6" - 8" wide wheels usually with an offset of 30mm - 45mm.
As for tire sizes 225mm - 255mm seem to be pretty common.
With a stock body I have read of some folks who have managed to fit 9" rims with 275/40 tires. However that usually required running coilover shocks and a careful choice of offset to get them to fit without rubbing.

I hope this info proves helpful. Good luck with your search.
And please keep us posted as to what you finally decide to do and how well it worked out for you.

Again Good Luck.

~ Bob ~


That is good info you posted there but I don't know how use full when he asked how big as in how tall not wide of tires can he fit.

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10-03-2013 08:57 AM Click Here to See the Profile for LB23Send a Private Message to LB23Edit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post

...double post....

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10-03-2013 09:04 AM Click Here to See the Profile for fierosoundClick Here to visit fierosound's HomePageClick Here to Email fierosoundSend a Private Message to fierosoundEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post

20x9.5" max using a 275/30/20 tire.
http://www.fiero.nl/forum/A...120111-1-083171.html

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10-03-2013 09:34 AM Click Here to See the Profile for 84fiero123Click Here to Email 84fiero123Send a Private Message to 84fiero123Edit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post

I posted in OT about how this type of changes would affect getting a sticker in some places as well as speedo and more. if you have a safety inspection for your Fiero you may want to check on changing tire sizes and passing inspection.

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10-03-2013 11:07 AM Click Here to See the Profile for DLCLK87GTSend a Private Message to DLCLK87GTEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post

 
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20x9.5" max using a 275/30/20 tire.



I've seen bigger.

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10-03-2013 11:19 AM Click Here to See the Profile for rogergarrisonClick Here to Email rogergarrisonSend a Private Message to rogergarrisonEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post

I saw 22" on one here a few years ago.

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Thought I would help...

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10-03-2013 04:30 PM Click Here to See the Profile for JT.86FieroGTClick Here to Email JT.86FieroGTSend a Private Message to JT.86FieroGTEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post

 
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Originally posted by fierosound:

20x9.5" max using a 275/30/20 tire.
http://www.fiero.nl/forum/A...120111-1-083171.html




20x9.5? thats great - sweet chop top btw
Is yours an 88? it looks that way with your rocker panels
If it is an 88 I know they changed suspension in 87 or 88 i forget... but I wonder if that would affect it

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Originally posted by 84fiero123:

I posted in OT about how this type of changes would affect getting a sticker in some places as well as speedo and more. if you have a safety inspection for your Fiero you may want to check on changing tire sizes and passing inspection.

Steve



what do you mean getting a sticker? a tag?
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That is awesome!!
premium redneck entertainment right there
(I can say that because I'm from Oklahoma)

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what do you mean getting a sticker? a tag?
thanks


safety inspection sticker, if you have those in your state, changing tire sizes can keep you from getting a sticker in states that have safety inspections.
never mind evidently your state like many others don't care about cars being driven on the roads being safe to do so.

http://drivinglaws.aaa.com/laws/safety-inspection/

Oklahoma


Annual safety inspections are no longer required.

Law enforcement may, upon reasonable cause to believe that a vehicle is unsafe or not properly equipped as required, require that the driver of the vehicle stop and submit the vehicle to an inspection by the officer.


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Originally posted by LB23:

That is good info you posted there but I don't know how use full when he asked how big as in how tall not wide of tires can he fit.


If the question is what the tallest rear wheel/tire that fits on a Fiero the answer is no more than 27.0" tall, diameter.
I got this info from jscott, To the best of my knowledge he discovered this the hard way.

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I have 18x9 0n the rear and they bottom out some times

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I have 18x9 0n the rear and they bottom out some times

solotwo,
Could you share what size tires are you running on the back,
what the wheel offset is, and whether the car is an '88, or an '84-87?

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20x9.5? thats great - sweet chop top btw
Is yours an 88? it looks that way with your rocker panels


Not my car, but picture was posted earlier here on PFF.
My cars are in my sig below.

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Core Racing 18" x 7.5. 225 R40 18


No problems with clearance except that the lettering on the tires will scrape when the wheels are turned to the max.

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Thought I would help...





call me crazy but i LIKE this . Must ride like a stagecoach though or the fender lips would come down on the tires.

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Pretty sure that's just a Fiero body shoved onto a truck frame (probably S-10/Blazer).


As for the largest possible, anything is possible if you have the money and/or skills to do it. On a stock body/drivetrain Fiero, I wouldn't go generally go larger than 17 or 18 though, with an offset relatively close to the stock wheels. The Fiero isn't a big car, so huge wheels just look corny on it. 18" wheels will already need a pretty low profile tire to keep the tire diameter the same as stock (so the speedometer/odometer remains accurate).

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call me crazy but i LIKE this . Must ride like a stagecoach though or the fender lips would come down on the tires.



I hope that car doesn't have a stock engine in it. Those wheels must weigh 80 lbs each, without the tires.

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Thought I would help...



This solves the problem some people have getting in and out, due to the Fiero setting low. Also, the doors now clear curbs. It gives room for exhaust. The engine can be removed with little jacking up. The trunk is now completely useless without a dock. The front end should stay doen, and MPG may, also. Great view of the road. Of course, the extra weight in tires and wheels is probably offset by the suspension components having been removed (shocks, struts, sway bars, springs, etc). The seat would need to be forward, so the seat could recline a bit. Short drivers only (5' and shorter, probably). I wonder about wind noise. If the sun roof was open while driving on the highway, it'd probably be a bit loud and windy inside. No more bending over to use the key.

I wonder about the headlights. Where do they aim? Probably plenty of extra space can be reclaimed in the cabin, because the steering wheel is virtually useless. Only low-speed turns. The car can't lean.

It'll drive like a Toyota! They make the smallest bump within 10 feet of the vehicle a jarring experience, don't handle, have poor design, and are cramped.

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It'll drive like a Toyota! They make the smallest bump within 10 feet of the vehicle a jarring experience, don't handle, have poor design, and are cramped.


Maybe a first year Toyota. I've gotten stuck with the newer generation Camry a few times with rentals, and they were nothing like that.

A stock Fiero on the other hand… not exactly a Cadillac either.

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Funny, I look at my 18's, and occassionally wonder if theyre too big to suit the car. My speedo is slightly off with 45's on the rear and 40's on the front.


...interesting that in some states tire size keep you from getting a sticker. .....would that mean an insurance company could potentially refuse a claim as well i wonder (if the driver went to bigger wheels after the fact)?

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Originally posted by Asphalt Risin:
...interesting that in some states tire size keep you from getting a sticker. .....would that mean an insurance company could potentially refuse a claim as well i wonder (if the driver went to bigger wheels after the fact)?


Yes. Speedometer/odometer accuracy is pretty important. Some states don't necessarily verify accuracy, even with a safety inspection, but it may result in the police finding you at fault in an accident, or an officer could pull you for speeding and require the speedometer accuracy to be verified. It may also affect resale of the vehicle, if the odometer is no longer accurate.

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Maybe a first year Toyota. I've gotten stuck with the newer generation Camry a few times with rentals, and they were nothing like that.

A stock Fiero on the other hand… not exactly a Cadillac either.


Haven't driven a 2014 crammy, but the 2013 sure was. The 2008 land cruiser, also, which saw a squeeze between the seat & the wheel. Despite my job having me crawing through lots of pipes, I never knew I was claustrophobic until I got in a jap car; which is why I usually have a sunroof in small cars. Also, there is some sort of harmonics issue with a lot of small cars that gives me a headache.

At least in the Fiero, the seat does go back far enough for me to fit, my arm fits between the seat and the armrest handle, the shift comes easily to hand, and I fit in the seat. In the Fiero, the mirrors can be adjusted far enough out, I can see out the side, and my shoulder doesn't hit the B pillar. Also, small bumps in the Fiero aren't a jarring experience.

The Fiero is a bit short for my legs, but I can fit for a long drive. In jap/small cars, I have a difficulty in the foot area, usually preventing me from using a clutch. I usually have to point my toe, so I don't hit both the brake and clutch.

Perhaps if I was shorter, skinnier, had shorter limbs and small feet, things would be better for me in cars for miniature people. I'm not minuature, so I drive comfy vehicles.

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Originally posted by tshark:
Perhaps if I was shorter, skinnier, had shorter limbs and small feet, things would be better for me in cars for miniature people. I'm not minuature, so I drive comfy vehicles.


OK Lurch.

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