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lack of oil by NiotaFiero
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With car running, I remove the oil cap where you put oil in and see no to little oil on head, is this normal? I know that in times past on other cars if I did that I would see oil circulating around the valves.
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With car running, I remove the oil cap where you put oil in and see no to little oil on head, is this normal? I know that in times past on other cars if I did that I would see oil circulating around the valves.


depends, how long it has been running, there should be some visible but you may not see it right away, only real way to make sure is take the valve covers off and start the car, there should be oil squirting out the tops of the pushrods of each cylinder. you may have a couple of clogged oil passages. does the engine make any noises when running? if so you definitely have a problem. I have always run some Mystery oil threw the system before changing the oil each time to clean out the system/passages. a quart of that added to the system and run it for a little while can keep the passages clean, unless they are so clogged they still won't let any oil into them. then you will need to flush the entire system some other way.

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depends, how long it has been running, there should be some visible but you may not see it right away, only real way to make sure is take the valve covers off and start the car, there should be oil squirting out the tops of the pushrods of each cylinder. you may have a couple of clogged oil passages. does the engine make any noises when running? if so you definitely have a problem. I have always run some Mystery oil threw the system before changing the oil each time to clean out the system/passages. a quart of that added to the system and run it for a little while can keep the passages clean, unless they are so clogged they still won't let any oil into them. then you will need to flush the entire system some other way.

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This is after it has been running a while. When driving and accelerate, you can hear the valves clicking but it is very minor.

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What engine?

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Let the car sit for 5 minutes if you just ran it.
Then check the oil, is the oil level full on the dipstick? (low level could tick)
When was the last time the oil was changed? Miles/months?
What oil are you using, 5w30? (Too thick could tick)
When was the filter last replaced? (plugged up could restrict flow)
After running it about 20-30 minutes or so, while running what does the oil pressure guage say idling in park/neutral?

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Originally posted by 2.5:

Let the car sit for 5 minutes if you just ran it.
Then check the oil, is the oil level full on the dipstick? (low level could tick)
When was the last time the oil was changed? Miles/months?
What oil are you using, 5w30? (Too thick could tick)
When was the filter last replaced? (plugged up could restrict flow)
After running it about 20-30 minutes or so, while running what does the oil pressure guage say idling in park/neutral?


Oil level full, 6-8 months- much less than 3000. 10w30,changed filter with oil, will check pressure in a while. Checked oil pressure after sitting and running about 10 min. Reading about 30-35.

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Originally posted by NiotaFiero:

Oil level full, 6-8 months- much less than 3000. 10w30,changed filter with oil, will check pressure in a while. Checked oil pressure after sitting and running about 10 min. Reading about 30-35.



Well, IMO oil doesnt reach full operating temp intil run for over 20 minutes, but that pressure isnt too bad.
If its conventional oil usually its recommended to change it in 6 months no matter the miles.
If you really want to know the health of your oil, get an oil analysis test done. This will tell you if you are in need of a change, or if the oil has metal or coolant or fuel in it.
Could be a rocker needs adjusting/tightening, I dont know much about that maybne someone will chime in.

some searches on it:

http://www.fiero.nl/forum/A...100421-2-095393.html
http://www.fiero.nl/forum/A...021104-2-024898.html
http://www.fiero.nl/forum/A...060811-2-068686.html

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If this started becasue you hear a ticking, it could likley be an exhaust leak. Egr tube or cracked manifold are common.
Looking in my 2.8s oil fill hole I dont really see much oil either and no probs here.
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Originally posted by 2.5:

If this started becasue you hear a ticking, it could likley be an exhaust leak. Egr tube or cracked manifold are common.
Looking in my 2.8s oil fill hole I dont really see much oil either and no probs here.


Thanks, I appreciate your replys, I guess I'm just a worry wart.
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Originally posted by NiotaFiero:

Oil level full, 6-8 months- much less than 3000. 10w30,changed filter with oil, will check pressure in a while. Checked oil pressure after sitting and running about 10 min. Reading about 30-35.



10/30 might make it tick at startup, that is the reason for the 5/30 recommendation, to get oil up top quick.

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10/30 might make it tick at startup, that is the reason for the 5/30 recommendation, to get oil up top quick.

Steve

. Thanks, next oil change will be 5w30. Would putting "marvel" help anything?

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