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Report this Post09-07-2013 04:05 AM Click Here to See the Profile for fierobugClick Here to Email fierobugSend a Private Message to fierobugEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
Does anyone know of the parts not available for the pre 88 gt's, maybe a list to refer to for the future? Parts that at least keep it running and able to drive. Thank you.
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Report this Post09-07-2013 08:59 AM Click Here to See the Profile for Gall757Send a Private Message to Gall757Edit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
That is a very hard thing to do. As of now, everything is available because cars are still being taken off the road and sent to the boneyard. When junk Fieros are sold directly to collectors, you will know that parts are getting really difficult to find. I suppose the GT tail lignts are going to be on that list, but more for aesthetic reasons.
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Originally posted by Gall757:

That is a very hard thing to do. As of now, everything is available because cars are still being taken off the road and sent to the boneyard. When junk Fieros are sold directly to collectors, you will know that parts are getting really difficult to find. I suppose the GT tail lignts are going to be on that list, but more for aesthetic reasons.


I agree. My mechanic friend of mine, says maney GM parts are interchangeable, includeing older engines. Just find a vehicle that uses the same Fiero motor. Another source would be the mall section of this web sight or Fiero store.
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New VIN tags are not legally available.

I am sure you could buy them however.

You will have some problems getting R12

The input shaft bearing for the Getrag is hard to get.
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Originally posted by fierobug:

Does anyone know of the parts not available for the pre 88 gt's, maybe a list to refer to for the future? Parts that at least keep it running and able to drive. Thank you.
Here's some parts for you to referance and keep.

Interior
Door panel screw BODY-TITE 45816
RH Door lock actuator HELP-75615
Door lock switches HELP-49218
cigarette lighter (long knob w/ element) HELP-56464
Window handle HELP-76903
84-86 ignition switch rep. kit Dorman 643-430
Brake pedal pad (Auto) PEDAL-UP-20713
Brake pedal pad (Man) PEDAL-UP-20733 HELP-13914
Clutch pedal pad PEDAL-UP-20733 HELP-13914
Cruise ctrl. lever w/o delay HELP-49287
Cruise ctrl. lever w/ delay HELP-49286

Exterior
Door Hinge Pins HELP-38407 (Motormite), 2 sets per door
LH mirror LOOK-51004
RH mirror LOOK-51039
headlamp adjustment screws HELP-42161
Windshield Wipers Anco 31-18, Bosch 40918 (3 397 018 918-700)
Front compartment/Engine general Windshield washer pump MIGHTY-CLEAR-88103
Coolant recovery cap HELP-82590
Radiator cap Stant 10231
starter repair kit START-72195
alternator repair kit (exc. 70,85,97,108 & 120) START-72191
L4 & V6 M12x1.75 oil drain plug OIL-TITE-65211
L4 & V6 M12x1.75 oil drain gasket OIL-TITE-66301
O2 Sensor Bosch 12014
V6 Pickup-coil E-Tron D1987
L4 Engine 2.5 preheater hose MIGHTY FLOW-96043
L4 M85x2.50 oil drain plug OIL-TITE-65224
L4 M85x2.50 oil drain gasket OIL-TITE-65326
84 L4 PCV elbow HELP-47036
85-86 L4 PCV elbow HELP-47037
87-88 L4 PCV elbow HELP-47038
84-85 L4 Cr/case oil vent sep. on air cl. HELP-42317
84-86 L4 Cr/case oil vent rkr arm cvr. HELP-42310
LF Coolant Hose GAT 21439
RR Coolant Hose GAT 21487
LR Coolant Hose GAT 20940
RF Coolant Hose GAT 21422
Head Gasket FelPro 9405PT1
Valve Cover Gasket FelPro VS50329C
Misc Engine Gaskets: timing cover, oil pan, intake, exhaust, rear main FelPro TCS131982, OS30409C, MS90563, MS90564, BS40110, PS50153C
Piston Rings(std) Perfect Circle 384X
Oil Pump (not for Tech IV) 224-41239
Clutch Release Brng N-3015-SA
Rod Bearings(.010) Federal 2500RAA-10
Main Bearings(.010) Federal 6689M-10
Valve Stem Seals FelPro SS72531
Water Pump(new) ATX AW5000
Alternator AMP 7117-3
Alternator U/E 7905-3
Starter AC Delco 323-350
Ignition Coil(84-86?) AutoTune PT227
Engine Belt Dayco 15505
87 Rocker arm Fed.Mogul/Sealed Power R894
87 Pushrod Fed.Mogul/Sealed Power RP3263
87 Roller Lifter Sealed Power HT-2148
V6 Engine 88 V6 exh.manif. bolt&spring kit HELP-03126
88 V6 exh.manif. spring HELP-03081
V6 1/2-20 oil drain plug OIL-TITE-65202
V6 1/2-20 oil drain gasket OIL-TITE-66302
Oil Filter AC/Delco PF52, Fram 3387A
Spark Plugs AC/Delco R42TS, Champ 2013, AutoLite 23
Red HD Cap/Rotor Wells DR2012G
Fuel Pump Auto-Tune P36
Front Lwr Ball Joints TRW FA1006
RR Coolant Hose NAPA 8216
Valve Cover Gaskets ROL VS997
PCV Valve FRAM FU299
Oil Pan Gasket FelPro 0S30572R, ROL#0s5885, Detroit#16526
Exhaust X-over pipe flange gasket FelPRO 60538 / 12-1052

Transmission/Clutch
2.5 flywheel bolts CLUTCH-IN-74067
2.5 pilot bearing CLUTCH-IN-14645
clutch pilot tool CLUTCH-IN-14534
4spd clutch fork CLUTCH-IN-14561
V6 5spd clutch fork (86-87 & 88 8XL) CLUTCH-IN-14720
V6 5spd clutch fork (88 exc. 8XL) CLUTCH-IN-14741
MT2 select cable CABLE-ALL-04095
MT2 shift cable CABLE-ALL-04083
MG2 select cable CABLE-ALL-04021
MG2 shift cable CABLE-ALL-04099
4spd select cable CABLE-ALL-04023
4spd shift cable CABLE-ALL-04011
85-87 V6 flex plate GEAR-UP-04308
88 V6 flex plate GEAR-UP-04307
2.5 THM125 detent cable CABLE-ALL-04225

Wheels/Axles/Suspension
Front spindle/axle nut kit SPINDLE-TITE-05189, HELP-04989
Rear spindle/axle nut kit SPINDLE-TITE-05170, HELP-04970
84 CV joint boot (man) SPEEDI-BOOT-03601
84 CV joint boot (auto) SPEEDI-BOOT-03602
85-88 CV joint boot (man) SPEEDI-BOOT-03662
85-88 CV joint boot (auto) SPEEDI-BOOT-03661
Wheel hub stud WHEEL-TITE-28498
Wheel hub nut WHEEL-TITE-28970
Lug nut cover WHEEL-TITE-29954
Koni Shocks 84-87 Front 8040 1027
Koni Struts 84-87 Rear 8741 1063
Koni Shocks 88 Front 8040 1092
Koni Struts 88 Rear 8741 1063

Brakes
Brake Pads (rear) 84-87 RAF PGD262M
Brake Pads (front) 84-87 RAF PGD261M, Guardian/Federal Mogul 65-261
Brake Hose (LF) 84-87 Wagner BH111127
Brake Hose (RF) 84-87 Wagner BH111128
Brake Hose (LR) 84-87 Raybestos BH38345
Brake Hose (RR) 84-87 Wagner BH111130
Master Cyl. Cap HELP-42041
Master Cyl. Gasket HELP-42079
84-87 brake bleeder screw (10x1.5, 30mm) HELP-13958 (1 per) / HELP-13908 (2 per)

Connectors
Coolant temp sensor CONDUCT-TITE 85100
Cooling fan motor CONDUCT-TITE 85101
Fan switch sensor CONDUCT-TITE 85102
MAT sensor CONDUCT-TITE 85110
IAC solenoid CONDUCT-TITE 85112
Compressor clutch CONDUCT-TITE 85145
Ignition coil "gray" CONDUCT-TITE 85119
Ignition coil "black" CONDUCT-TITE 85120
Ignition module 4 pin CONDUCT-TITE 85135, Standard S551
Ignition module 2 pin CONDUCT-TITE 85136
Speaker/power supply CONDUCT-TITE 85174
Radio CONDUCT-TITE 85176
Radio connector Dorman 643-145
MAP sensor CONDUCT-TITE 85115
V6 injector CONDUCT-TITE 85137
TBI injector CONDUCT-TITE 85139
TPS sensor CONDUCT-TITE 85186
TCC connector CONDUCT-TITE 85182
Flasher socket CONDUCT-TITE 84734
"Pontiac" illumination socket CONDUCT-TITE 85868
Side marker socket CONDUCT-TITE 85880
A/C High pressure switch conn Dorman 643-496
A/C Low pressure switch conn Dorman 643-497
85-87 Cooling fan relay conn Dorman 643-433
85-86 pressure switch conn. Dorman 643-495
IAC conn. Dorman 643-414
87/88 TBI solenoid conn Dorman 643-453
87/88 voltage regulator socket Dorman 643-089
85 V6 ignition module harness Dorman 643-452
Coolant level(!) sensor connector HELP-85192

Parts which may or may not fit
LH Inside door handle HELP-77098
Instrument panel lamp socket HELP-40241
Brake & clutch pedal bushing HELP-74017
Washer handle replacement HELP-49265
Steering column tilt lever HELP-49276
Turn signal lever w/o cruise HELP-49273
Turn signal cam HELP-49302
Turn signal cancel springs HELP-49312
Ignition switch repair kit HELP-83211
Horn contact HELP-83230
Turn signal actuating lever HELP-83231
Turn signal cancel cam w/ tilt HELP-83232
Turn signal cancel cam w/o tilt HELP-83233
Column shaft lock HELP-83249
Steering column housing (tilt) HELP-83255
Steering column housing cap HELP-83256
Steering column shroud (tilt) HELP-83252
Door lock rod clips HELP-75452, 75455
30 Amp circuit breaker HELP-60250
Starter shims HELP-02336
Starter bolts HELP-45636
Battery hold down HELP-00587
Oversized brake calpier bolts HELP-13892
molding retainers (A-pillar) 45454
Coolant level(!) sensor HELP-82591

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Front Wheel Bearings
The Fiero front bearings are a standard part that is available from many manufacturers The specifications are: (from the Timken Web Site)
Set 1 (LM11749/LM11710) - Bore 0.6875", OD 1.5700", Width 0.5450", C90 lbf 1.340, K=2.04
Set 4 (L44649/L44610) - Bore 1.0625", OD 1.9800", Width 0.5600", C90 lbf 1.620, K=1.56
Seal 3357
Cross Reference: Part FAG Timken Amgauge L&S BCA Trust NAT'L Victor Federal Mogul
Outer Bearing Set KLM11749 Set 1 A-1 S-1 A-1 A1 - - -
Inner Bearing Set KL44649 Set 4 A-4 S-4 A-4 A4 - - -
Seal - 3357 14775 - - - 3357 47553 3357
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Corvette Parts
Yes, the Corvette too was created from the same corporate parts bin that the Fiero came from. As a result, many Vette parts should fit our Fiero too. One source for such parts is Eckler's Corvette in Titusville, FL. The following items are from their '99 spring/summer catalog:

Panavex Mirror kit (LH) A2397
Radio Refurbishment service 34815
Moroso Pro-Coil 35623
ACDelco Alternators (105 Amp) 3287x
Oil Filters (PF 52) 26852
Fuel Filter (GF 481) A3479
TCC solenoid conn kit 30546
MAP sensor connector (green) 30549
TPS connector 30542
VSS connector 30557
IAC connector 30548
84-87 cooling fan relay 30975
88 cooling fan relay 30554
84-87 -> 88 cooling fan relay upgrade kit 30974
Wiring harness conduit 11/32" I.D. A9237
Wiring harness conduit 1/2" I.D. A9238
Wiring harness conduit 3/4" I.D. A9239
Outside Mirror Glass Trunion 34177
87/88 headlamp motor repair kit 29304
IAC sensor test tool 20553
MAP sensor test tool 26147
Coolant sensor test tool 22713
MAT sensor test tool 22714
O2 sensor test tool 22715
TPS test harness A8906
Diagnostics Key 22719
Door Key (oval, stamped B) A9143
Ignition Key (square, stamped A) A9142
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I can tell you one thing that is getting hard to find, drive axles for an 84. Had to replace one of mine, took 3 attempts to get the right one. Don't trust the parts lists, 84 axles are 84 only.
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Man fierogtlt1, did you pull that out of your hat or what? That is an awesome, exstensive parts list and greatly appreciated. Took some time to put that together. Thank you very much.
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I can tell you one thing that is getting hard to find, drive axles for an 84. Had to replace one of mine, took 3 attempts to get the right one. Don't trust the parts lists, 84 axles are 84 only.


Odd, I just plugged an 84 Muncy into a 86 GT using the 86 axels and it fits and runs well. Larry
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Report this Post09-07-2013 07:33 PM Click Here to See the Profile for tebaileyClick Here to Email tebaileySend a Private Message to tebaileyEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
Ya, but the 86 axles won't fit the 84.
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Originally posted by fierobug:

Man fierogtlt1, did you pull that out of your hat or what? That is an awesome, exstensive parts list and greatly appreciated. Took some time to put that together. Thank you very much.

It's a list I had saved on my computer that I got awile ago.
And your'e welcome.

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Originally posted by tebailey:

I can tell you one thing that is getting hard to find, drive axles for an 84. Had to replace one of mine, took 3 attempts to get the right one. Don't trust the parts lists, 84 axles are 84 only.


In all the years that I have been messing with Fieros, this is the first time I've heard anyone say this.

To restate...
All automatic Fiero axles are supposed to fit all years, and all automatic trannies.
All manual Fiero axles are supposed to fit all years, and all manual trannies.

Our club mechanic has parted out many Fieros and repaired many more, and he has never had any problems interchanging axles.
In fact, he had an 84 tranny in his 86 V6 SE for a while (wanted the 4.10 FDR) and reused his 86 axles.

Perhaps there was an anomaly with one of your vehicles.
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Originally posted by fierobug:

Man fierogtlt1, did you pull that out of your hat or what? That is an awesome, exstensive parts list and greatly appreciated. Took some time to put that together. Thank you very much.


Indeed! That's a heck of a list!
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I have the 84 4.10 Muncy in my 86 using the 86 axels and it fits and runs just fine. Larry
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http://www.fierosails.com/PartsManual.htmlCheck the Fiero interchange list and you'll see the 84 axles listed as 84 only. Auto zone had an 85 axle, which I have sitting in the box that did not fit. the length is off just enough that the hub will not in. Can't seem to get the link to work, but Fierosails is right that the 84 is used only on 84. The tranny's will interchange with other years but the axles from the later years won't fit the 84. Just like the 85 Caddy I used to have . The first year of the front wheel drive, a lot of the parts for that were only used on the first year model.

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I believe what he's saying is that the 84 axles fit only the 84 chassis. If you put an 84 trans in an 86 and tried to reuse the 84 axles too.... I believe this is where the problem of length would come into play. I can't verify that, but I believe this is the point has trying to make.

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That was what I was saying.
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