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3800 build parts list by Flux
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Report this Post03-13-2013 01:21 AM Click Here to See the Profile for FluxSend a Private Message to FluxEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
bump -

FIEROFLYER thoughtfully and meticulously separated the fragile wiring harness etc from the heavy items such as the mounts and brackets, and shipped them in 2 different boxes. the rest of the parts should be in by this week
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a recap so far...

SIII Running as SII requirements:

3800SC engine - Aquired
custom mounts - Aquired
N* TB, LQ4 MAF, etc - Aquired
Reprogrammed ECM - Aquired
Fuel pressure regulator - Aquired
- Thanks to FIEROFLYER

AC Delete - ??? Power steering delete - ??? - Still need these Idler pulleys from somewhere........ not decided on the best route


new clutch - ~550; SPEC stage 3+
custom flywheel - still looking.....
wiring harness - $400 - Thanks to FIEROFLYER
fuel pump ~120 - AC DELCO EP 381
exhaust ~?? considering true duals
Time & experience?
oh man..
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picked up one of these badboys today lol - EP 381. gotta say its way tinier than expected

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ordered one of these from David Norton @ SPECCLUTCH today aswell


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bump - ordered a WCF 3800 flywheel from a member in Quebec. spec clutch is still on it's way.
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getting closer!!



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bump. ordered mustang header/modified 3800 headers & exhaust system from FIEROFLYER today. I may order a borla muffler to complete the set up ... ....clutch should be arriving tomorrow...

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It's all coming together! Keep it up Adler.
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If some knows the correct grade and size flywheel bolts please post, very important. Do you use the 3800 bolts,Cameron bolts, or Pontiac 5 spd bolts. Etc.....
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If some knows the correct grade and size flywheel bolts please post, very important. Do you use the 3800 bolts,Cameron bolts, or Pontiac 5 spd bolts. Etc.....


Ya I need this info aswell, I have heard that new GM 3800 flywheel bolts will work well but I need clarification on that
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stage 3+ spec clutch "Late GM 3800 to Fiero 4sp" clutch
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bump... flywheel was machined down today..... ordered a N* TB adapter last week...... thats all
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N* TB adapter http://shop.zzperformance.c...r-Adaptor-Plate.aspx arrived today. they keep dinging me for shipping costs at the door! at least the TB adapter is a small package. ordered some ARP studbolts for the flywheel http://www.summitracing.com/parts/ARP-234-1001/ and an a/c delete pulley http://shop.zzperformance.c...p/252-AC-Delete.aspx

still waiting for the 3.8 mustang header setup to ship out. pretty excited for that!


looks like I won't be doing the swap until the end of may/early june because of time restraints.. still balancing school and work. and I want to prep the engine a bit more before I dive in. also the Fiero has been my daily driver for the past 9 months.

thats all for now
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You need to have parts shipped from ZZP USPS/Canada post. You will get dinged for the GST and big brokerage fees from UPS, and it can add up quick. Canada Post will charge a minimal brokerage if any and GST, stuff from Summit you can probably get from JBs power center for around the same price or cheaper, and they are in Calgary.

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You need to have parts shipped from ZZP USPS/Canada post. You will get dinged for the GST and big brokerage fees from UPS, and it can add up quick. Canada Post will charge a minimal brokerage if any and GST, stuff from Summit you can probably get from JBs power center for around the same price or cheaper, and they are in Calgary.



thanks for the tip. if I need anything else I will phone JB powercenter first. I got my speakers from there, they aren't bad guys. they even screwed up and gave me better speakers than what I paid for lol.. summit shipped the parts using fedex (it was the cheapest option).
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I will be following this as well! I was intending on starting this six months ago lol. I just never got around to it. Reading through your post has put me in the motor swapping mood now though.

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so I am trying to figure out the best way to run the coolant system....... my car is an 86 and I need to retain the heater core. stock alt location aswell (for now)

so from what I have read, my best option is to use a modified fiero coolant neck with no return lines, run a coolant line off the water pump for the radiator, and use the two outlets on the LIM beside eachother to run heater core lines. is this correct?

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I will be following this as well! I was intending on starting this six months ago lol. I just never got around to it. Reading through your post has put me in the motor swapping mood now though.

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Cool man, I appreciate the support. I should be starting the swap at the end of may so look out for that
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I subscribed so I will be watching haha. It's always good to follow someone through the process to learn. That is what I think anyway.

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got my ARP studbolts today for the flywheel, and I have a ZZP a/c delete pulley on order. looks like the bolts need a special socket
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Trust me when i say go with the camaro magnaflow muffler that dan uses in his swap...Mine was done by Dan and he used the mustang manifold with the magnaflow muffler and it sounds frickin mean!! Go with widemouth tips too.. I got a complaiment from a guy who rides an Aprilla bike.. And his bike sounds so sweetttt!!! He said my car sounded sweet..
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Trust me when i say go with the camaro magnaflow muffler that dan uses in his swap...Mine was done by Dan and he used the mustang manifold with the magnaflow muffler and it sounds frickin mean!! Go with widemouth tips too.. I got a complaiment from a guy who rides an Aprilla bike.. And his bike sounds so sweetttt!!! He said my car sounded sweet..


Dude, think you can you post a sound clip please??
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Right now my car is down due to a crapped out clutch master cylinder. But as soon as I get the parts from Rodney I will fire her up and see what I can do!!
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Plus no cuting of the trunk was needed to make it all fit!!
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Trust me when i say go with the camaro magnaflow muffler that dan uses in his swap...Mine was done by Dan and he used the mustang manifold with the magnaflow muffler and it sounds frickin mean!! Go with widemouth tips too.. I got a complaiment from a guy who rides an Aprilla bike.. And his bike sounds so sweetttt!!! He said my car sounded sweet..


So you don't have to cut the trunk for this setup? I heard that the mustang headers had a bit of a restrictive gap?

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where did you hear that
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where did you hear that


It has been a while but I believe my girlfriends brother mentioned something about that to me a while ago. Like I said I could be very wrong lol.

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could be true, but they are much better flowing than the OEM front manifolds which have much less flow. + these clear the 4 speed shifter cables
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zzp a/c delete pulley arrived in the mail today. waiting for the exhaust system to show up. stoked!
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zzp a/c delete pulley arrived in the mail today. waiting for the exhaust system to show up. stoked!


I'm going to buy a relocating kit that puts the alternator a bit lower from mulletproofmonk so I don't have to notch the trunk and low pro trunk hinges to keep the coil pack in the stock location. Makes it look cleaner

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the engine i pulled is a 2004 which has a smaller alternator/lower mount than previous years
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the engine i pulled is a 2004 which has a smaller alternator/lower mount than previous years


Well that makes things nice! I forgot you had a series 3 right? I'd have to go check.
Yep lucky you! I never have the luck of coming across a series 3 for that cheap

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honestly i wouldn't recommend getting an SIII engine. it's more expensive if you're on a budget ... oh well, it's got the gen V blower
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Yeah I hear those m90s flow better. I may be going to grab a motor, flywheel, FieroX motor mounts, and a programmed PCM in two weeks. Hopefully all works out.

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well do to unforeseen circumstances I no longer have a viable garage in which I can do the swap in..... have an extra cradle and all the parts ready to go.... agh
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Oh crap. That's not good. Going to be able to get started again anytime soon?
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