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Audi A8 My Fiero by engine man
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Report this Post06-15-2012 02:01 AM Click Here to See the Profile for engine manClick Here to Email engine manSend a Private Message to engine manEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post

i think i should change them to just low on funds for right now, only so much money in the budget for fun toy's

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well i went out and bought some wood to build a gantry just gotta get my buddy's chain hoist then i can remove the engine

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Report this Post06-17-2012 12:58 PM Click Here to See the Profile for engine manClick Here to Email engine manSend a Private Message to engine manEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post

just some good reading on the cv joint angle these guy's know more than i will ever know about them
http://www.minibuggy.net/fo...ch-do-you-angle.html

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i had a chance to start building my gantry to pull the engine i will finish it up tomorrow on my day off and maybe start pulling the engine

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Report this Post06-21-2012 05:44 PM Click Here to See the Profile for engine manClick Here to Email engine manSend a Private Message to engine manEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post

Well i got the gantry built but am going to put a few more braces on it

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I hope you put alot more bracing to it...

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it will get more bracing

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engine man;

Any updates on this swap? I am very interested to see how it all fits into the engine bay as this will really make a difference for us replica builders.....

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Nothing going on right now just working on the house a bit and waiting to get some more funds to work on the car but i will try to get some free time this week to work on getting the engine out. Oh i almost forgot that i can get cable linkage from a 1997 Boxster the transmission is the same as what came in the 2001 Passat i got mine from they both are 012

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I just want to say have a happy 4th and be safe

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getting ready

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I did some more digging to try and find a ecu to run the engine that would be cheap and so far it was the ignition holding me up but i have just found that the LS3 uses a 58x wheel and the audi uses the same 58x or as some call them 60-2 so what does it all mean not sure yet but i might be able to run a GM ecu

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Report this Post07-05-2012 09:35 AM Click Here to See the Profile for seajaiSend a Private Message to seajaiEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post

Have you looked at the Megasquirt system? Been poking around on their website doing some research for my swap, they are supposed to be coming out with a controller for coil on plug ignition. Otherwise their system can be run with a Ford EDIS ignition. There is a ton of info on this setup and it looks like all the ign components can be had from a pick-and-pull or junkyard.

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Report this Post07-05-2012 11:39 AM Click Here to See the Profile for engine manClick Here to Email engine manSend a Private Message to engine manEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post

I have but i am just trying to find the cheapest way and so far it really is the 034 motor sport chip and immobilizer for about $700, the chip is for the 4.2 V8 and standard transmission. the cheapest way i have found is to stick with the 5 speed automatic transmission with tiptronic shifting that would allow a paddle shifter but i am told the shifting is SLOW between gears.

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getting ready


Are those 2x4's for the legs or 4x4's?
Duno if I would trust 2x4's installed in that position; should have them twisted 90deg to get more strength...

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4x4 for the legs

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Cheering you on Go engine man go!
I've dreamed of this swap in a Fiero since seeing this Esprit get one.
http://www.motorgeek.com/viewtopic.php?t=9648

worth reading the 20 pages. He used a VEMS ECU http://www.vems.us/v3ecu

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well i can tell you i have a bit of frame work to do on the passenger side since it is not rotted out hahaha not a big deal I will just get my friend who owes me for the 86 GT to weld in some new steel. I will be selling some parts i have the upper intake off it is the engraved but needs paint

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OH boy look what i just found from Lingenfelter a 58x - 24x conversion module no need to change the 58X ring just buy it and have fun
http://www.lingenfelter.com...E&Category_Code=C163
i think this makes the 7165 possible

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well i am still looking at the tiptronic 5 speed automatic transmission as well due to it makes things cheaper and easier . this is the gear ratio for the tiptronic out of a 1998 A8 non quatro with a 3.7 V8 Automatic
1-3.665:1
2-1.999:1
3-1.407:1
4-1.000:1
5-0.742:1
R-4.096:1
FD-3.091:1
they make chips for the transmission to speed the shifts up to 1/5 the time of what a stock transmission takes to shift

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well i am still looking at the tiptronic 5 speed automatic transmission as well due to it makes things cheaper and easier . this is the gear ratio for the tiptronic out of a 1998 A8 non quatro with a 3.7 V8 Automatic
1-3.665:1
2-1.999:1
3-1.407:1
4-1.000:1
5-0.742:1
R-4.096:1
FD-3.091:1
they make chips for the transmission to speed the shifts up to 1/5 the time of what a stock transmission takes to shift


Tiptronic or manually shifted torque convertered automatic? Tiptronic is a manumatic (manual internals automatically shifted with manual tap shift buttons) and has a clutch. DSG transmisions are the newest "tiptronic" transmissions, with an automatic dual clutch.

EDIT: My bad, did a little wiki search (YAY WIKI) and it does encompass manually shifted torque convertered automatics :P.

I would definately get a new chip though, cause those use a fuzzy logic on shifting, and can get annoying when using manual mode. I would get a chip that follows exactly when you shift is when it shifts.

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the tiptronic that i am talking about is a automatic trans with a manual shift mode I think i will like it all right as long as i put a chip in to speed up the shift and makes it full manual when in the manual mode

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I have found this site http://www.levelten.com/ and they claim to be able to make a bullet prof tiptronic 5 speed i am just more interested in there tcu flash for now

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Well after just getting a email from Chet W on the 7165 ecu i will be using the stock Audi A8 ecu and a tiptronic 5 speed transmission due to it would be over $800 more to go with the standard trans

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thought i would put a few pics up of the engine removal . i am just getting it ready to come out right now and there will be a few nice parts for sale


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just looked up how much to re-spline my axles so i can use the fiero outer CV joint Moser engineering gets $125 per pair that seems like a really good price

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Length? Resplining the Audi axles to the Fiero spline?

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I cant remember off the top of my head for sure but i think it was 24 inches and the passat axles where just the right length due to the passat and fiero have close to the same track width . tomorrow i should have the engine out i have the day off i just hope the 2 back cradle bolts don't fight me . yes VW to fiero spline since the transmission stuff is from a VW passat

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Have any of you used a Megasquirt ECM and what did you think of it

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well the car is just hanging out waiting for me to get some more money the engine and cradle are all ready to come out but like i said i am waiting to get some money to buy the automatic so i can bolt it all up and make my mounts . at first it will just be a stock shifting tiptronic i need to talk to the transmission guy i know and ask what i should buy if it should be a chip for the transmission or the valve body that level ten has

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I just sent Phonedawgz a email to see if he would build me a harness since I am not really confident on doing that and i know he will get it right and i wont have to think about it

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i am just waiting for money from a turbo i sold on ebay I hate waiting

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well i have now committed myself to the standard by buying the flywheel insert on 034 motorsports web site $400 and change all shipped to me

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maybe hope for Chet's 7165 ECU with the MSD 6012 or the 6010 ignition controller http://www.msdignition.com/product.aspx?id=6899 even if i cant use it the LSx engine guys should be able to use it with the 7165 ECU .

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If I read the info for these controllers correctly, the 7165 will work with this ignition. There is a catch though. The 7165 will not be in control of the ignition timing, but seeing that the MSD is programmable, this should not be a problem. The 7165 will need to have the ignition related codes disabled. For signal input to the 7165, just tie into the tach output from the MSD controller, just make sure there is a tach filter between the two. I have a schematic for such a filter if you want it now. As far as issues matching the ignition to your engine, I may not be much help. If anything else comes to mind, I will let you know.

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without the headaches of wiring a modern EFI system.


Must be nice to have a market of morons to sell into...

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Thats good news Chet if i remember right you where saying you only need to change some wires on the harness to use the 7165 and this ignition looks pretty straight forward so it might make it easier to swap and upgrade

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Well the engine and cradle just hanging by 2 bolts and you know what 2 i am talking about dam bolts felt like they where gonna go all the way then the nut part broke free and choice words where said !

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chetw77cruiser should i get the engine harness from the camaro/ firebird that i get the 7165 from and get a V8 one so it would eliminate the need to do any rewiring or would i still need to do wiring ?

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engine is out now just need to take it off the cradle . it is so oily and grease makes you want to run away but i will get the engine off the cradle in the next couple of day's


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