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testing the waters on custom built headers and y pipes.. by 86 toy
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Originally posted by 86 toy:
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thanks for everyones interest in my product i will do my best to make a quality header that FITS right the first time


As you may have gathered from my first post, I was all prepared to be indifferent at best, when I first saw your thread. (Didn't help that I was posting from work and was quite busy at the time.)
We have a fair number of dreamers and wannabes who post pie-in-the-sky ideas that never seem to work out for them. Cynicism comes easily.

With that said....
It certainly looks like you do some really nice work. Very pleasant to look at, at the least. I wish you luck in your endeavors.
If I ever find myself in the market, I will give you some major consideration.

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Originally posted by Arns85GT:

I really commend any guy who is willing to take on making headers for fellow enthusiasts.

It is hard to make even a respectable amount for your time doing this on a custom basis. So, please accept these observations as constructive criticism.



I'm wondering what you think of the ones you made
reference thread: http://www.fiero.nl/forum/Forum2/HTML/121026.html
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Report this Post06-10-2012 12:20 AM Click Here to See the Profile for 86 toySend a Private Message to 86 toyEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
Just a little update as to where I stand with the start of building headers.. as of Thursday I was laid off from my job so i took the extra money i had saved and bought myself a tig machine so i can weld them up in my garage and not have to take them to work and weld them like I had planned before.. the welder is scheduled to arrive next Monday so in the meantime I will be setting up my mock up engine and cradle.. I will make a thread in the mall when i am ready to start taking orders..
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Report this Post09-02-2012 10:27 AM Click Here to See the Profile for cam-a-lotSend a Private Message to cam-a-lotEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
Any news?? Is this project real??

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Report this Post09-02-2012 10:45 AM Click Here to See the Profile for 86 toySend a Private Message to 86 toyEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
Yes the project is real the problem is I havnt had time to work on anything.. I'm hoping to get back to it now that summer is winding dowb
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Report this Post09-04-2012 01:13 PM Click Here to See the Profile for gtxbulletSend a Private Message to gtxbulletEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
I'd love to get a price quote (not including shipping) for a set of 3500 headers.
I will have Air Conditioning on the engine so the lines need to clear without melting
It would be mated to a 5-speed manual getrag just like yours.

PM me when you have time. THANKS!!
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Report this Post09-04-2012 02:19 PM Click Here to See the Profile for BlacktreeClick Here to visit Blacktree's HomePageClick Here to Email BlacktreeSend a Private Message to BlacktreeEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
You know, I was just thinking how nice it would be for someone to make 3x00 headers for the Fiero. But I realize it's a small niche to fill.

That said, I will be in the market for some 3400 headers in the near future. So please keep us updated.
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Report this Post09-04-2012 04:32 PM Click Here to See the Profile for masospaghettiClick Here to Email masospaghettiSend a Private Message to masospaghettiEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
$400 for a set of headers sounds like a great deal if they are anything like the ones you posted a picture of.

I wonder how much HP they would free up, compared to the stock logs? (Mine is a stock 2.8)
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Report this Post09-04-2012 04:50 PM Click Here to See the Profile for fierogt28Click Here to Email fierogt28Send a Private Message to fierogt28Edit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
I gotta say, those custom headers are very nice looking and well built. Headers and the Y pipe for
2.8s, 3.4s, and even 3.8S/C swaps would be nice.

I guess TFS would have competition, and maybe West Coast fieros...(if they can at least ship their parts that
we think they have ready to go.)
 
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Yes the project is real the problem is I havnt had time to work on anything.. I'm hoping to get back to it now that summer is winding dowb


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Report this Post09-20-2012 07:35 PM Click Here to See the Profile for cam-a-lotSend a Private Message to cam-a-lotEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
If you want to be taken seriously as a vendor, you need to start cranking out some parts pretty soon and list them for sale.... There have been too many flaky vendors here who disappear like the morning mist once the time comes to actually make parts.

I and several others are in the market for headers. Are you going to make them?

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Report this Post09-20-2012 07:40 PM Click Here to See the Profile for 86 toySend a Private Message to 86 toyEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
I'm still here.. not going anywhere.. the thing is when I get to work on these it will be in my spare time.. I work 48 hours a week and have a family at home.. right now things have been very busy for me and I haven't had a lot of free time to put into this.. I assure you that I soon will be moving forward with this project..

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OK, plans have changed. Instead of 3400 headers, I will be needing headers for a pushrod 3.4 V6. When you're ready and available to build them, please let me know.
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Originally posted by Blacktree:

OK, plans have changed. Instead of 3400 headers, I will be needing headers for a pushrod 3.4 V6. When you're ready and available to build them, please let me know.


OK sounds good...
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Also put me down as very interested in a set of 3.4 headers.
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I just re-read my previous post, and realized I may have come across as being pushy. That wasn't my intention. Sorry about that.

I do understand that you need to make a living. The headers will probably just be a sideline project. And I respect that. (I've been there, too) But if you do decide to make headers to fit the 2.8 / 3.1 / 3.4 iron head engines, I would be interested... especially if you could make it from stainless steel.

I currently have the Trueleo headers. I love them, but they're rusting out. The wet Florida weather is really taking its toll. They may not last much longer.
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Report this Post11-06-2012 08:50 AM Click Here to See the Profile for fierofan25Click Here to Email fierofan25Send a Private Message to fierofan25Edit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
Is this guy still going to make the headers, he said I would be first in line to try them. I really need a good set of headers.
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Report this Post11-06-2012 09:20 AM Click Here to See the Profile for 86 toySend a Private Message to 86 toyEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
All I need is time!! Sorry to keep you waiting

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Hopefully this is real. The initial post was over 6 months ago.... I have been ready with money in hand for months to make a decision on an exhaust.
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Sorry, couldnt wait. Had to have so i bought me Trueleo headers inst.
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I would be vey interested if you could replicate the header system used on the "Taiwan Fiero" the pipes various cylinders were rerouted in a way that gave the 2.8/3.4 PR motor a very exotic sound. Do a search on Taiwan exhaust or Taiwan Fiero to hear this system. If you can do it, I would purchase a set of these.

http://tw.myblog.yahoo.com/...ner/article?mid=9902

This is a link to pictures and audio. The article is in Chinese but if you have a translate feature you can make out some of what is being said.

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Originally posted by 86 toy:

Up and running!!
http://www.fiero.nl/forum/Forum4/HTML/066447.html


I'm sure that there is a market for headers fabricated for the 3800SC but according to ZZ performance they must use
1 3/4" primary tubes and exit the Y pipe to the exhaust at 3". The around the back routing is the way to go with these.
As for Y pipes there is a ready market for these as well as many 3800SC and 4.9L swaps really need around the back routing to allow a longer exhaust that will get them quiet enough to be street legal (in many locations) and to make the cars easier on the ears while driving. IMO there might also be a need for a better Y pipe for the 3.4l p/r swap and stock 2.8L's but the Fiero Store already offers an improved Y pipe design.

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Report this Post08-09-2013 08:58 PM Click Here to See the Profile for 86 toySend a Private Message to 86 toyEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
Just a little update.. I am currently working on designing an equal length header for the 3800.. I'll post some pics of my work later.. I'm just throwing some scrap bends to a stock manifold flange to get an idea if it will work or not..
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Can you go with 1.75 primaries and 3" dump? Also, is it possible to fit an A/C line?
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spent today doing a little r&d and this is what i came up with. this is by far a finished product its just to get an idea of how i will build these.. I was shooting for equal length primaries but they would be way to complicated to produce i got them close but not equal so we will call these long tube headers..
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let me know what you guys think

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Nice work

All of a sudden I'm interested in a set for my 3800SC... although I have the F23 manual.. if you can make the crossover not interfere with the shift cables that would be awesome! I also would prefer not to cut my trunk.

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Nice work

All of a sudden I'm interested in a set for my 3800SC... although I have the F23 manual.. if you can make the crossover not interfere with the shift cables that would be awesome! I also would prefer not to cut my trunk.

Thanks.. can you send me a pic or 2 of your shifter cables so I have an idea where they are..

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Originally posted by 86 toy:

spent today doing a little r&d and this is what i came up with. this is by far a finished product its just to get an idea of how i will build these.. I was shooting for equal length primaries but they would be way to complicated to produce i got them close but not equal so we will call these long tube headers..
rear header




front header






let me know what you guys think




I really like those, I'm doing a HX-40 turbo on my 3800 I would be very interested in exactly what you have pictured there in mild steel, finish welded, with the collectors and V-band flanges (no X-over)

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