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Longitudinal BMW V12 in a Stock Fiero Engine Compartment - 25th Anniversary Countach by 88lambo
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Here you go...Not my engine but same model and year as mine, Video is from Choice Auto Wiring http://www.choiceautowiring.com/ (they made my engine management system) as soon as I get mine started I will post a video...



You mean this Carbon? or with an exhaust

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With the exhaust... the video above doesn't really do anything for me...

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somebody has a death wish lets watch lol! NEED INPUT!

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Report this Post08-09-2012 12:12 AM Click Here to See the Profile for 88lamboSend a Private Message to 88lamboEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post

quick update....

slow going in summer, weather in ontario canada has been hot an dry all summer (level 2 drought) so spending a lot of time at camp and boating

I have mocked up the coolant system, i used plastic electrical conduit, size is close to size of tubing i am planing to use and easy to work with. now i need to fabricate the metal tubes.
hoping to get started on fuel system soon....

photos to follow...

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Report this Post10-25-2012 12:10 AM Click Here to See the Profile for 88lamboSend a Private Message to 88lamboEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post

I'm Back.... been a tuff few months my father got sick and passed away.

slowly getting back into car, have the radiators mounted and plumbing figured out, just have to braze it together...






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you can run the rads in series and get better cooling with a lot less plumbing than running them in parallel I did duel rear rads in series with the northstar build i did and got twice the cooling as the first rad pre cools second final cools lowering the return temp buy 100 degres

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Just an FYI. Those Honda Ebay rads you're using are not very good at dissipating heat. I was using one on my 4 cylinder 2.2l Turbo Dodge Omni and the car would overheat constantly.

Here's a pick of it installed in the Omni. Same unit.

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I made rads parallel because I have only found dual rads setup this way in production cars, makes you wonder why, but may be some done in series but i haven't found them yet...


Countach Rad setup - Parallel


Murcielago Rad Setup Parallel

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Is that copper tube? I always thought copper and cars don't mix because the vibration causes it to work harden and fracture.

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I made rads parallel because I have only found dual rads setup this way in production cars, makes you wonder why, but may be some done in series but i haven't found them yet...


Countach Rad setup - Parallel


Murcielago Rad Setup Parallel


check out my tread here in the forum and see the setup it works fantastic http://www.fiero.nl/forum/Forum3/HTML/000007.html

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Is that copper tube? I always thought copper and cars don't mix because the vibration causes it to work harden and fracture.



yes i have to agree as i have had copper fail thats why i used stainless steel

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I made rads parallel because I have only found dual rads setup this way in production cars, makes you wonder why, but may be some done in series but i haven't found them yet...


One of the issues might be a coolant flow resistance issue. In parallel 1/2 the coolant passes through each radiator at 1/2 the flow rate. While in series the 100% of the coolant must pass through both radiators at the full flow rate.

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From an engineering standpoint, the radiator will work better in a parallel configuration. Heat transfers quicker when the delta T is highest. In a series setup, the first radiator gets full temp coolant, but after the first one, it's cooled significantly, making the second one much less effective at transferring heat.

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[/color[color=#FF0000]] WHATS NEW--WHATS NEW

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Been bad year haven't done much on car, my wife has been sick for 11 months and raising a 7 year old has cut into car time.
Dropped the drivers floor pan 2 inches to get my fat head into the car. All sensors and wiring harness is on engine. Engine and cradle are out to finished frame work and secure cooling system piping. I have bought all components for fuel, brakes and cooling systems (oil cooler, tranny cooler and engine ) now Xmas is done hoping to poke at car bit more.

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Life and family are more important than a car project. That being said, this is one cool project!

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FAMILY FIRST -BEST WISHES

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I just caught onto this thread since someone bumped it. I'll be watching it closely, since I'm just beginning a Murcielago build...definitely nowhere near as in depth as your build, but I'm loving the detail your putting in to yours. I decided to start with the engine swap on mine (just a simple 4.9) before moving to the stretch and the body kit. Hoping to have the swap completed by the spring, iron out the bugs, then tackle the stretch and body kit starting this fall. (That way I can enjoy it for the summer and keep the enthusiasm ). It's nice to see someone else in the Ottawa area doing a build. Hopefully you'll give me a chance to drop by to take a look sometime!

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On April 5th my wife passed away after a major setback during surgery. we were together 30 years and September would have been our 25th anniversary.
Starting to work on car again, "car therapy" when my 7 year old daughter goes to bed at 8 I head out to garage. Find it very hard to be alone in house...life is very different now.
I'll post when I think of it...

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That's a terrible blow! You have our deepest sympathy. What can we do to help?

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My Word.. My Condolences.....

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Very sorry to read this....My sympathies to you.

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Wow... that's a tough break. My heartfelt condolences.

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I just read through this thread and was so excited, it is awesome. Then I get to this last page. Wow, I am so sorry for your loss. Take care of yourself and the family bro.

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My condolences. Our thoughts are with you.

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My most sincere condolences to you for your loss.

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Wonder if this ever got finished. I have read this thread over and over . Going to do the same for my car. Put the v12 in the stock engine compartment

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I'm still here. Still have car. Lots happened.
Remarried and moved. Have bigger family now. Building storage shed for all the parts (now stored at my brother's place). Hoping to get back on car this fall. Have 19 year old step son has interest in cars so have helper 😉

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Great news! All the happiness to you!

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Let me know if you ever need any local help. My Aventador build is moving along and eventually I'll be picking your brain about the longitudinal BMW installation anyway...

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I just read through this entire thread. I reads like a novel. So much has happened . I apologize for reviving an old thread. I hope all is well.

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Report this Post09-15-2018 10:59 PM Click Here to See the Profile for 88lamboSend a Private Message to 88lamboEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post

Working on car again. Pulled engine out to add finishing touches to engine compartment and to wire engine.

Lambo
Engine in
Engine top view
Engine 3/4 view

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Nice work. Did you make the engine and trans adapters.

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12.840@104.8 MPH Intense-Racing 1.9 rockers, 3" exhaust, 3.4 pulley, ZZP tune and 18 year old tires.

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I designed the adapters had machineshop make for me.

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Very cool build! Sorry to hear about the rough patches. I read thru and saw the fiat x 1/9 door handles, just got a set for my kit car. Luv the v12 swap!

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What a huge job!

I hadn't followed this thread before, but it is an interesting project. The engines sound wonderful - this is my Lambo engine, much earlier than yours. How would you like to have to tune those carbs in the chassis?



You could have gone transverse - Lamborghini did it in the Miura, but the transaxle would have been....challenging. One of my favourite living room decorator shots - a Miura power unit made into a table:

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Mine isn’t real Lamborghini engine. Is BMW 5.0 V12. I just had BMW machines off and replaced it with Lamborghini logo
What car is your engine in?

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Any updates on the lambo since 2018? Inquiring minds need to know.

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