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Chrysler Crossfire opinions? by railshot
Started on: 06-06-2018 09:36 PM
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Report this Post06-06-2018 09:36 PM Click Here to See the Profile for railshotClick Here to visit railshot's HomePageClick Here to Email railshotSend a Private Message to railshotEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post

Just wondering if anyone has experience with one?

I am in the market and have been fascinated with them since they first came out..

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Try sitting in one. It makes the Solstice feel roomy.

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Report this Post06-07-2018 11:03 AM Click Here to See the Profile for thesameguyClick Here to Email thesameguySend a Private Message to thesameguyEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post

Personally, I'd probably just buy an SLK. A hand-me-down R170 with quirky styling? Pass.

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Report this Post06-07-2018 05:17 PM Click Here to See the Profile for railshotClick Here to visit railshot's HomePageClick Here to Email railshotSend a Private Message to railshotEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post

I actually like the Crossfires "pooping dog" look.

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The styling would be the only reason to buy it - because otherwise it's a previous-generation SLK (the Crossfire/R170 was sold while Mercedes was selling the revised R171). Mechanically and financially speaking, I can't see the wisdom in buying a Mercedes maintenance requirement with a Chrysler badge (and maybe resale value?). Don't get me wrong - I have absolutely bought cars that make no sense but I like how they look (I have a Fiero after all - HA!) - but just know what you're getting into. And it sounds like you probably do!

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The styling would be the only reason to buy it - because otherwise it's a previous-generation SLK (the Crossfire/R170 was sold while Mercedes was selling the revised R171). Mechanically and financially speaking, I can't see the wisdom in buying a Mercedes maintenance requirement with a Chrysler badge (and maybe resale value?). Don't get me wrong - I have absolutely bought cars that make no sense but I like how they look (I have a Fiero after all - HA!) - but just know what you're getting into. And it sounds like you probably do!


I have been known to buy "oddities" in the past just because I find them appealing to me, and we both do have a Fiero, so that alone says a lot. heheheh.

I am so unfamiliar with Mercedes, so I have to ask.... What is the difference between the R170 and the R171?
Truly a newbie to this brand, so please help me out.... the only Mercedes name I can even think of is the Kompressor badge, and that is just in passing and reading a bit out of curiosity for what it was.

Resale value means little to me as I buy what I am attracted to.

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Originally posted by railshot: I am so unfamiliar with Mercedes, so I have to ask.... What is the difference between the R170 and the R171?

R170 is the first generation SLK chassis, whereas the R171 is the second. When Mercedes switched to the R171 chassis, they gave the R170 chassis design to Chrysler. So the Crossfire is basically a hand-me-down Mercedes with a body kit. Since the mechanicals are Mercedes, it will be costly to maintain.

One of my coworkers had a Crossfire. I wasn't very impressed with it. It struck me as a "grandpa cruiser" pretending to be a sports car. You get the downsides of a low-slung sports car (cramped interior, harsh ride, crappy fuel economy, etc) without any of the upsides. The engine isn't very powerful, and doesn't make "sporty car" noises. The suspension was probably supposed to feel sporty, but IMO just feels overly harsh, like the suspension is over-damped. Once again, this is all subjective. You might have a completely different experience. But I would never buy one.

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Originally posted by Blacktree:One of my coworkers had a Crossfire. I wasn't very impressed with it. It struck me as a "grandpa cruiser" pretending to be a sports car. You get the downsides of a low-slung sports car (cramped interior, harsh ride, crappy fuel economy, etc) without any of the upsides. The engine isn't very powerful, and doesn't make "sporty car" noises. The suspension was probably supposed to feel sporty, but IMO just feels overly harsh, like the suspension is over-damped. Once again, this is all subjective. You might have a completely different experience. But I would never buy one.


Prior to buying my Solstice GXP I test drove a friend's (wife's) R170 SLK320 and found it underwhelming. Cruiser is definitely apt - it was small and looked sporty but it drove a lot more SL than Miata. However, that was actually not unlike the BMW Z3 at the same, and the Z3M was fun albeit fugly, so I tried a Crossfire SRT-6 at a used car lot. It was fast but a snoozefest. I *think* it's a reasonably capable chassis, but the interior is cramped (as noted) and there is a decided disconnect between driver and car. It just felt awkward. I did end up with the Solstice, which also wasn't great, but occupied a happy space between too-slow Miata and too-buzzy S2000.

If you like the styling of the Crossfire and aren't looking for a pocket rocket, you could do worse. It's *generally* reliable but mechanically costly (due to Mercedes bits) when things go wrong. It's not a weight I'd be willing to bear, but you could do worse for sure. Given that you're not looking for a small dynamic coupe, it's probably worth a test drive to see if being in one offsets the cost of owning one, and that's gonna be a very personal decision. OTOH, if you're just looking for something small and fun is on the shopping list, I'd look elsewhere - maybe even an R171 SLK... I suspect they are priced similarly to Crossfires being of similar year and similar MSRPs.

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Thanks for all the feedback and opinions, and if what I am reading is correct, I should really go back to lusting after a Solstice or Sky.
They are on my most wanted list, and I trust my GM cars more than most I have had.....

As a matter of fact, all I have are GM right now.

2011 HHR
2010 HHR
1999 S10 ZR2...… and of course,
1988 Fiero GT.


So I have been swayed, back to looking for another (GM) two seater!

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I'd prefer a good Fiero to a Solstice/Sky, Fiero is much roomier and more practical stock to stock, the Solstice/Sky will be faster, though.

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Originally posted by RWDPLZ:

I'd prefer a good Fiero to a Solstice/Sky, Fiero is much roomier and more practical stock to stock, the Solstice/Sky will be faster, though.


Thanks RWDPLZ,
I am thinking more along the lines of one of each.
Fiero and a Solstice / Sky.

Looking at prices today, I think I just may wait until mid winter, or take a drive to the deep south.

Amazing how the prices up here are compared to the south...... I guess it is a matter of supply and demand.
More were probably sold in the south, which makes sense to me, plus it would more than likely be pretty much rust free not being driven on any salty roads.

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Report this Post09-14-2018 12:25 AM Click Here to See the Profile for RaydarClick Here to Email RaydarSend a Private Message to RaydarEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post

If you want a superb driver's car, and are comfortable in your sexuality, go look at MX5s/Miatas.
Try to find one that hasn't been modded. They are great, right out of the box. And some peoples' mods are just... dumb.

Best "driver's car" I've ever owned.

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I'd prefer a good Fiero to a Solstice/Sky, Fiero is much roomier and more practical stock to stock, the Solstice/Sky will be faster, though.



Not exactly...I got my ' 87 GT V6, fine tuned...purrs like a kitten...and it almost as quick as my stock 06 solstice. My fiero rides better, more room, and the seats are much more comfortable...the only thing I like better on my Solstice, is the 5 sp..over the fire's 5 sp.........and there seems to be more FIERO parts avilable....than the Solstice....go figure...

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My cousin leased one when they first came out and it was one fast car when I drove it a few times. When the lease was up, he let it go. Earlier this year he found a yellow convertible and bought that. He has a tendency of buying cars then not driving them as he has three Buick Reattas, a 38 Buick, a 40 Olds, a 02 Saturn View, A Toyota Solara convertible and a Dodge Journey. He had a 39 Packard, but he got it cheap, then sold it for about 2x of what he paid for it. The only car he drives routinely is the Saturn which has nearly 200,000 miles on it.

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I cant get into a SKY. my knee will not slide past the bottom of the steering wheel. I keep looking at them and as the prices fall I start thinking about how to modify the seat.
Perhaps I should just hold out for an 88 formula and be happy

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I have a Crossfire now and rather enjoy it. However, I cannot disagree with some of the criticisms sent it's way here either.

IMO it's biggest failing as a sports car is the lack of precision and feel of the steering. This is well documented in reviews and it is true. Once you get used to it, you can trust it for a certain level of grip. However, it is not easy to get the exact line you want or maintain it, and you do not get feedback (especially compared to a Fiero). A BRZ would be a far better scalpel for canyon carving (although after having owned one of those, I would not recommend it).

To me, the Crossfire has a bit more of a muscle car feel to how it drives. It is fun in point and shoot driving. Good acceleration if your in the right gear (not V8 levels, but I'll take the standard V6 to get the stick shift over the supercharged V6 auto only combo... which is pretty fast).

Interior materials and build quality is pretty cheap. I like the design, but the feel can leave you wanting. Lots of rattles and hard plastics. Space once inside is ok. I am 6 foot tall and fit and can drive it comfortably.

Also these cars are finicky with their electrics. I feel like I am always hunting down some electrical failure or another... and mine has just 22K miles on it. I do like tinkering on cars and do not rely on it for primary transportation so I do not mind this. However, Mercedes parts can be a bit pricey and not the easiest to find... and some people just are no good tracking down electrical system issues. I was surprised how different it's needs are than my Fieros had been.

For an affordable sporty looking and driving car I think it can be fun. If your looking for a top performer, especially in the turns, then it may not be the car for you.


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