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Does anyone know this guy? by Miller5862
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He has my dream car and i want to know everything.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=65-VhSWspVE

How is his engine pointed forward not sideways? What transmission would he be using a xfer case? Custom? Like so many questions.. supercharger blower? I need this car.

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Thats Tracy Powell. I believe he was from Florida. The engine is a blown 455. Lee on here (Larini74) posted this back in 2006:
 
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Engine and transmission came out of an 1967 Oldsmobile Toronado. Modifed of course, with a variable pitch torque converter with 3k stall
speed to handle the almost 750hp that the engine puts out.


Unfortunately, Lee's webpage is gone with all the photos. Here is another pic:

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Originally posted by IMSA GT:

Thats Tracy Powell. I believe he was from Florida. The engine is a blown 455. Lee on here (Larini74) posted this back in 2006:

Unfortunately, Lee's webpage is gone with all the photos. Here is another pic:





So is the variable pitch torque converter whats allowing him to mount the engine facing forward?
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Originally posted by Miller5862:
So is the variable pitch torque converter whats allowing him to mount the engine facing forward?


The Tornado transmission is the key. It was made for a longitudinally mounted engine, where the Fiero and most front wheel drive cars are transverse.
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his vehicle frequently shows up at the Spring Daytona event and I have a few photos of it filed away.

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Originally posted by liv4God:


The Tornado transmission is the key. It was made for a longitudinally mounted engine, where the Fiero and most front wheel drive cars are transverse.


I cant seem to find a tornado transmission on google..
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TH425 is the transmission.
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Originally posted by Miller5862:


I cant seem to find a tornado transmission on google..


Toronado - count the letter o, there's 3 of them.

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Originally posted by David Hambleton:


Toronado - count the letter o, there's 3 of them.



The guy i quoted said tornado so assumed there was a tranny by that name.
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Originally posted by fieroguru:

TH425 is the transmission.


If that is what it is, good luck finding one today.....

 
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THM425

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1966–1978 Oldsmobile Toronado

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Originally posted by fieroguru:

TH425 is the transmission.



Is there a manual version of this?

Turbo-Hydramatic 425 was an automatic transmission developed and produced by General Motors.
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Web site archived here https://web.archive.org/web...ountry.us/fcusa.html

Pic here https://web.archive.org/web...ountry.us/tracy.html

and here https://web.archive.org/web...untry.us/tracy2.html

And for anyone doing a super duty https://web.archive.org/web...s/HotrodSD4guide.pdf

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Originally posted by Miller5862:
Is there a manual version of this?


No. There isn't a manual transmission option at this point that would put the engine in the same spot and drive the rear wheels...

If that is what you are looking for, then turn the engine backwards, use a T56 6 speed, point the tailshaft to the front, us a V drive to change rotation and give you a driveshaft that will now go rearward to the rear differential. Lots of custom fab work...
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Make is better by making it simple.

Put it in the front..………..

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Originally posted by Thunderstruck GT:

Put it in the front..………..



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I saw a supercharged setup like this a while back and the powertrain was so big that it actually entered into the interior where the console is. The supercharger belt was turning only inches away from the drivers head. There was somewhat of a plastic shield there but if that belt came off at 6,000 RPM the driver may be less one head. Scary.

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Originally posted by Dennis LaGrua:

I saw a supercharged setup like this a while back and the powertrain was so big that it actually entered into the interior where the console is. The supercharger belt was turning only inches away from the drivers head. There was somewhat of a plastic shield there but if that belt came off at 6,000 RPM the driver may be less one head. Scary.



That is the same car we are discussing.
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Originally posted by fieroguru:


No. There isn't a manual transmission option at this point that would put the engine in the same spot and drive the rear wheels...

If that is what you are looking for, then turn the engine backwards, use a T56 6 speed, point the tailshaft to the front, us a V drive to change rotation and give you a driveshaft that will now go rearward to the rear differential. Lots of custom fab work...


I have always wanted to do this. That would definitely be how to do a all wheel drive too.
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I have always wanted to do this. That would definitely be how to do a all wheel drive too.

Awd fiero racer would be pretty end game stuff.. the dream
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OR you could find an old Pontiac Tempest rear transaxle, 3 or 4 speed or automatic, say from a 1961-63, hook up your V-8 and install(after you stretch something). JUST A THOUGHT!?! The Olds/Buick/Caddy T/As are hard to find as well. Best of luck.
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Originally posted by Miller5862:
The guy i quoted said tornado so assumed there was a tranny by that name.


My bad on the typo. Sorry for causing confusion, I meant that the transmission he used was from a Buick Toronado which allowed the longitudinal setup. Anyway, looks like the others got you pointed on the right direction.
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Originally posted by liv4God:


My bad on the typo. Sorry for causing confusion, I meant that the transmission he used was from a Buick Toronado which allowed the longitudinal setup. Anyway, looks like the others got you pointed on the right direction.


Lol! What you REALLY meant was Oldsmobile Toronado. Worry not, there are spelling monitors and fact checkers among the readers. Tornado does sound like a rip roaring racing transmission moniker...

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Originally posted by David Hambleton:


Lol! What you REALLY meant was Oldsmobile Toronado. Worry not, there are spelling monitors and fact checkers among the readers. Tornado does sound like a rip roaring racing transmission moniker...


Yes thank you! I got to stop posting on pff in the early morning lol!
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Nvm

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Can someone show me a v drive? Ive been looking all i find is stuff for marine. Is the marine v drive what youd use for the rear facing engine?
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Originally posted by Miller5862:

Can someone show me a v drive? Ive been looking all i find is stuff for marine. Is the marine v drive what youd use for the rear facing engine?


If you install a longitudinal V8, you don't need a V-drive. You will simply have to remove the trunk for more room and use the proper transmission. Here's a webpage regarding transmissions and the setup:
http://www.nathanbittinger....fieroaddiction/sbc-l
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Originally posted by IMSA GT:


If you install a longitudinal V8, you don't need a V-drive. You will simply have to remove the trunk for more room and use the proper transmission. Here's a webpage regarding transmissions and the setup:
http://www.nathanbittinger....fieroaddiction/sbc-l


My car isnt automatic. And i already planned to remove the trunk and cut into cab if needed but those seem to require automatics. In fact im gonna widen stance just to redo the well and move the clutch out from under the steering column i cant steer when i clutch cause feet to big or push clutch all the way down if not using tip toes. I like the 6 speed tranny with v idea but i cant figure out the v.

My goal would be a 6 speed 350 5.7l with super charger. So like 7 grand in completed tranny engine and a bunch of fabricating and fiber glass.. i just need to figure out that v method lol i cannot. I had a custom corvette and it was nowhere near as complicated.

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Casale is one of the main people who make the drives for boats. They were also used in several 4x4 vehicles over the years. You can contact them for information. Hemi Under Glass uses one of the v-drive setups also:


http://www.casalev-drive.com

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Originally posted by IMSA GT:

Casale is one of the main people who make the drives for boats. They were also used in several 4x4 vehicles over the years. You can contact them for information. Hemi Under Glass uses one of the v-drive setups also:


http://www.casalev-drive.com



Ty those look nothong like the v drives ive been seeing on google lol.

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[QUOTE]Originally posted by IMSA GT:


If you install a longitudinal V8, you don't need a V-drive. You will simply have to remove the trunk for more room and use the proper transmission. Here's a webpage regarding transmissions and the setup:
http://www.nathanbittinger....fieroaddiction/sbc-l[/QUOte

There was Bubbajoe's... http://www.fiero.nl/forum/Forum3/HTML/000007.html

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