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The Driven Visions Notchback Tail light Panel by Dennis LaGrua
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Driven Visions was a custom fiberglass business run by Joe Ophoven and his wife Jenny O'Konek in Duluth, Minnesota. Joe produced some great fiberglass parts and designed a nice looking notchback light panel. Just when I was about to order one in 2008 Joe passed away and apparently Driven Visions closed. Does anyone here know what became of the molds to the light panel shown in the picture? I saw one that was installed and it looked super. The panel also used inexpensive commonly available aftermarket lights. I believe that the molds were sold to a supplier (Dan?) who made products for the now defunct Fiero Fiberglass but to my knowledge the panel was never put back in production again. Does anyone know what became of this product?

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Geez, I don't know Dennis... it looks kind of weird installed up there.
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Geez, I don't know Dennis... it looks kind of weird installed up there.
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Here are the pictures that show this panel installed. The other picture may have been taken before the maker had a chance to install it. At least we know that at one time this panel did exist. It really changes the look of the notchback. If the mold is out there somewhere it must be in great shape as the seller passed away about 2 months after the product was introduced. I guess this product will join the unsolved mysteries of where the Mecham side scoops ended up.



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Originally posted by Dennis LaGrua:

I couldn't find the pictures that show this panel installed.


I've seen at least one "installed" picture... and yes, it looks sharp. I'll see if I can find one.

[EDIT] Here's one. I'll try and find another where the panel is the same color as the body.

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Had a product, sold it on here, i know where the mold is along with mecham molds.
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/|\ /|\ Damn, that looks good! /|\ /|\
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Thank you


Oh, you're welcome! Does it also have a 4.9 in it... and what tranny?

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Yes, 4.9 and Isuzu 5-speed. Cheers
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Yes, 4.9 and Isuzu 5-speed.


John, do you have a build thread on this Fiero?

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No. Just kind of do my own thing. I just added a new set of headers.
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No.


That's a shame. Looks like a very nice machine.

Are you concerned at all about the durability of the Isuzu behind that engine... or is the car designed to be more of a "cruiser" than a stop light warrior?

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Had a product, sold it on here, i know where the mold is along with mecham molds.
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It is a nice light panel but back-up lights should be a consideration. Wiring was a bit tricky. I'm happy with mine.
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Patrick,
My car is hardly a stop light warrior! lol Its good for autocross and curvy mountain roads. Its light, handles good and brakes well. I haven't had any problems with the transmission in the five years I've had the car together. I'm pretty conservative when taking off and shifting and its only a 4.9, so I think I'm okay.....for now.
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My car is hardly a stop light warrior! lol Its good for autocross and...


Wow, I'm surprised that your Isuzu's 2nd gear hasn't given up the ghost behind that engine if you autocross. My experience when autocrossing is that 2nd gear really takes a pounding. Glad to hear you've not experienced any issues.

Apologies to Dennis for sort of sidetracking this thread.

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Villain
It is a nice light panel but back-up lights should be a consideration. Wiring was a bit tricky. I'm happy with mine.
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Hi, John. Would you mind describing the trickiness of the wiring? I have a set of these lights waiting to be installed on my car.

Thanks.

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Villain
It is a nice light panel but back-up lights should be a consideration. Wiring was a bit tricky. I'm happy with mine.
Cheers


Problem easily solved using Pilot Navigator back up lights that fit nearly perfectly into the reflector slots in the rear facia. Perhaps another location can be found on the panel itself but unless its the same identical size of the other lights only in clear, it may ruin the appearance. As for the panel itself, it the molds are still around, it escapes me on why these panels have not been sold again. They use a stock type of universal "off the shelf" trailer tail light (also available in LED form) so its an economical install. The demand may be there and IMO, they really improve the appearance.
The other comment that was made here was "I know where the molds are" So what, how does that secret help Fiero owners?

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Had a product, sold it on here, i know where the mold is along with mecham molds.


So Trent, I'll ask this since the Al Lindsey style taillight panel has just resurfaced after all these years. What is the secrecy of all these molds. Everyone who mentions them is from Florida (where they originated) so you obviously have some sort of connection to these. Are you family of the original owner of the molds? You offer a lot of products for sale and they are all legitimate as I've posted pictures for you in the Mall so I know you are not a scam. What I don't understand is why is there such "teasing" about these products. And I don't direct that comment just towards you. Others make the same claims as you. Why not just come on here and say "My dad owns them" or "Jim Cleary owns them". Why such secrecy? It's annoying as hell.

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Hey Ernie,
The wiring was a bit tricky because of the way I wanted the lights to work. Both lights on each side light up for brake lights and turn signal. I think the Fiero had a separate lamp for the turn signal. Back-up lights were mounted in the bumper. Brake lights are controlled by a pressure switch from one of the master cylinders.
Good luck with yours!
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Hey Dennis,
I think you are correct. Leave the panel alone and mount the back-up lights in the bumper where the stock reflector goes. I got my back-up lights at Autozone right off the shelf in the accessory aisle. Much brighter than the stock lights.
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So Trent, I'll ask this since the Al Lindsey style taillight panel has just resurfaced after all these years. What is the secrecy of all these molds. Everyone who mentions them is from Florida (where they originated) so you obviously have some sort of connection to these. Are you family of the original owner of the molds? You offer a lot of products for sale and they are all legitimate as I've posted pictures for you in the Mall so I know you are not a scam. What I don't understand is why is there such "teasing" about these products. And I don't direct that comment just towards you. Others make the same claims as you. Why not just come on here and say "My dad owns them" or "Jim Cleary owns them". Why such secrecy? It's annoying as hell.


One of Joes old threads. He made some great stuff. Check out those headlights. Beautiful.
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The late Joe Ophoven /Driven Visions was based in Minnesota. I believe that Joe did all of his own fiberglass work.. When Joe passed away in 2008 shortly thereafter, his widow Jenny O'Konek offered the equipment and molds owned by the business for sale. There was a forum member that went up there to make an offer (he may have been from Florida) but I don't know if a sale was made. The entire story was told on this forum a while back but if anyone knows Jenny she could tell us. All I know is that I am on this forum to share info and help other members when I can. If I know something useful I share it and why not? Trent obviously takes an opposite view.

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John, do you have a build thread on this Fiero?


Patrick, you might be interested in this:

http://johns49performance.com/index.html
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David, thanks!
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I had one on my 88. Those pictures above of the red car with the black panel are of my car. I sold it a few years ago to put stock lights with embrace racing led kits. It’s fit wasn’t perfect but it looked really good. Kinda wish I didn’t sell it.

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How do i take an opposite view? And what have i been secretive about exactly? As you stated, you have posted photos for me. I have nothing to hide. And furthermore, it’s not that I’m family with anyone, it’s that alot of aftermarket parts were produced in florida and I know where to look for stuff. People call me quite frequently on leads of places to check, and I’m actually pretty well known to the facebook group as someone who can procure just about anything you can think of made for fieros. I don’t even keep the parts most of the time, it’s the hunt for rare items that is fun to me so cool your jets 😂
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How do i take an opposite view? And what have i been secretive about exactly? As you stated, you have posted photos for me. I have nothing to hide. And furthermore, it’s not that I’m family with anyone, it’s that alot of aftermarket parts were produced in florida and I know where to look for stuff. People call me quite frequently on leads of places to check, and I’m actually pretty well known to the facebook group as someone who can procure just about anything you can think of made for fieros. I don’t even keep the parts most of the time, it’s the hunt for rare items that is fun to me so cool your jets 😂


Thanks for great information that will help all of us forum members!

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Dennis and John, thanks for the info.

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Glad to help, Ernie.
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I believe that the panel that you reference was custom made by John, by setting the C4 lenses in the notchback tail light covers or he may have used a blank Pisa panel and cut it . The original panel made by Joe at Driven Visions; used Universal Tail lights for a trailer or truck marker lights. Similar LED lights have come on the market and they are inexpensive. I doubt if we will ever see the Driven Visions rear tail light panel manufactured again or the beautiful front headlight setup that Joe designed. At this point in time, it appears that only a very few fiberglass companies interested in producing Fiero parts remain.

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Stupid question, where are the reverse lights?
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Stupid question, where are the reverse lights?


The back up lights are Pilot Navigator lights that just happen to fit exactly in the space on the facia where the reflectors are now. These are very inexpensive and since they are Halogen, provide about twice the light of the Fiero back up/reverse lights. I believe that the pictures on this thread show them.

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