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85 SE question by Raymac85
Started on: 07-30-2016 10:38 PM
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I finally found a 85 SE v6 4 speed that I purchased 2 weeks ago. I love my fastback but I always thought the 85 SE with the 2.8l and 4speed Orion was pretty sweet. It took me almost 4 years to find one. I know there very uncommon but does anybody know the production numbers on this configuration. All I could find on the good ol web was just a number for 85 SE in all configurations.
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Report this Post07-30-2016 11:36 PM Click Here to See the Profile for MarkoSend a Private Message to MarkoEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
24,734 SE's out of 76,731 total made in 1985.

What is a 4 speed Orion?

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'85 SE 2M6 Muncie 4 speed.
a.k.a "The Rumble Seat"

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Keep in mind the 24K number is all SE models and the V6 was only a part of that number. If I recall I think there was something like 5K-6K 2M6 models offered.

Not common but by no means what is considered rare by collectors.


I had it looked up once but forgot where I found it. I have one myself. The Canadian versions like mine numbered in the hundreds but as you can imagine there is little demand for Canadian 2M6 models.
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I thought it was around 4,000 automatics with SE V6. That was considering it was about 50/50 auto and stick shift. So that would mean 4,000 4 speeds too. I will try to look it up. I had one I bought new and had another until recently. Both automatics though. The v6 coupe is a sweet car!

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Thanks for the info jjfierofan 👍🏻 ya they are sweet. its like the formula before the formula lol.
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To echo Marko's question, "What is a 4 speed Orion?"

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Originally posted by fierofool:

To echo Marko's question, "What is a 4 speed Orion?"



That would be 'autospellese' for 'option', I would guess.
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"Autospellese !"....

Now I get it.

My SE has the M-17 Muncie four speed.

Never driven an automatic equipped Fiero.
I'm thinking that would be a bit mundane in comparison to rowing the gears on a four speed.

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I did a search for Orion Edition Fiero and Fiero with Orion Option. I only found reference in a Hemmings article to Orion Lake, Michigan, where there apparently was a plant that produced Fieros. And This: Orion Fiero High Efficiency Round Front White Toilet. There are some who might think that's a fitting description.
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Originally posted by Marko:

"Autospellese !"....

Now I get it.

My SE has the M-17 Muncie four speed.

Never driven an automatic equipped Fiero.
I'm thinking that would be a bit mundane in comparison to rowing the gears on a four speed.


The auto is not bad.

I bought mine new and got the auto as I anticipated the shifter getting rubbery with the 4 speed and also the clutch was not like my Chevelle where it was an easy change in the home garage. The 84's I had driven were already not feeling good shifting.

A note on my Auto. I am not sure what Pontiac did but it is programed much differently than most other GM cars using the same tranny. Mine will hold a gear longer before the shift. It will ride in second gear longer than most. If I want to go to the red line it will hold the get till then with it on the floor. If I want it to shift I just lift off the floor and it will down shift. Often you can shift it with your foot on the throttle.

I would have assumed the governor was screwed up but this car shifted like this from day one and I love it this way. Also the shifts are firm.

The only trouble I had was the lock up converter solenoid but it was easy to change and the new ones are made better.

To be honest I have never once been disappointed not buying a stick shift in the car. Note I have no ill will to any stick as when I buy a Corvette will be a stick like several of my past cars.

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