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Re: A plea for help (important!) by Cliff Pennock by rinselberg
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Re: A plea for help (important!) by Cliff Pennock


Hello Cliff,

If Google's bots can find this material, is it possible that someone offers a bot-powered "site cleanup" service that you could engage to help clean up Pennock's..? Not Google itself, I guess, because they would probably have told you about it (?)

I guess this is something you would already know about, but--no stone left unturned.


I don't see why, but for some reason my attempts to post this message as a reply to the original thread were not successful.

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I had no issue..

I p.m.'d him.. and advised he ask google what keywords they are using to search for questionable material..

I'm thinking most of jake dragons girl photo's and avatar,

Said he might what to prune the "trash can"

I'll bet just like facebook,, any threads with muslum in it, gets flagged..
or trump, Clinton, sanders, cruze ,etc..
and any on pot use..
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Originally posted by E.Furgal:

Said he might what to prune the "trash can"

I would suggest making trash can & off-topic "member only" areas. Then Google can't crawl the content.
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Originally posted by no2pencil:

I would suggest making trash can & off-topic "member only" areas. Then Google can't crawl the content.


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Originally posted by no2pencil:

I would suggest making trash can & off-topic "member only" areas. Then Google can't crawl the content.


if that would work,sounds like a great plan...im in
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Report this Post04-22-2016 11:02 AM Click Here to See the Profile for no2pencilClick Here to Email no2pencilSend a Private Message to no2pencilEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
Obviously I have no way of knowning what kind of coding is in the forum, but this could be accomplished as easily as implementing a change to robots.txt (as Google spiders do adhere to this file), changing sitemap.xml (if one is used), or checking for sessions on access to either of those forums.

I'm a big believer in controlling access over censorship.

Just throwing out my 2 cents.
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Originally posted by no2pencil:

Obviously I have no way of knowning what kind of coding is in the forum, but this could be accomplished as easily as implementing a change to robots.txt (as Google spiders do adhere to this file), changing sitemap.xml (if one is used), or checking for sessions on access to either of those forums.

I'm a big believer in controlling access over censorship.

Just throwing out my 2 cents.


most forum software , has a privledge settings page...
where you'd change the privileges for O/T and trash can from all, to registered users only
now guest that lurk and search engine bots can't crawl those areas..
and with O/t and trash can not really needing use of a search engine.. it be no harm no fowl..
It also make any thread post that are taboo not cause this issue again..

the other parts of the forum would still get crawled by the boxes but very rarely does anything bad get posted in those..

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Originally posted by no2pencil:

I would suggest making trash can & off-topic "member only" areas. Then Google can't crawl the content.


Well, that isn't entirely true. Google doesn't really crawl the site (I think) but examines the content of the page its ad is displayed on. So hiding behind a members only area will not prevent a thread from being flagged.
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I see, I misunderstood the base of the issue.
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Originally posted by Cliff Pennock:


Well, that isn't entirely true. Google doesn't really crawl the site (I think) but examines the content of the page its ad is displayed on. So hiding behind a members only area will not prevent a thread from being flagged.


Really? Interesting. Is there any way you can make the add "contained", but still viewable? JaveScript maybe? I also hate the idea of "pop ups", but I'd make and exception for PFF and white listed the URL..

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If you get caught screwing with Google ads, you're kicked off AdSense for good. Maybe label topics (general/technical/mall) as ad friendly, & (trash/off topic) as non-ad friendly, then server side only load the Google Ads < script > tag block on ad friendly topics.
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Originally posted by no2pencil:

If you get caught screwing with Google ads, you're kicked off AdSense for good. Maybe label topics (general/technical/mall) as ad friendly, & (trash/off topic) as non-ad friendly, then server side only load the Google Ads < script > tag block on ad friendly topics.


This topic is important. I get it. We have at least 3 threads about it, including this one started by the same person who triple posted in the original thread. I wouldn't have seen the one in OT, except someone linked to it.

The thing is, I suspect prior posts are correct in suggesting that most of the ad revenue comes from OT.
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Originally posted by Cliff Pennock:
Well, that isn't entirely true. Google doesn't really crawl the site (I think) but examines the content of the page its ad is displayed on. So hiding behind a members only area will not prevent a thread from being flagged.


As has been stated, the loss of ad revenue from losing the OT section might be a problem. But what about the reverse solution, make OT members-only, and *isolated* from the ads? Would that kill too much revenue? How about a yearly membership fee to access the members only area?
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