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Best Lowering springs? by Burly1
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I'm looking at lowering my Fiero to eliminate some body roll and for the look as well. It's an 88 2.5 5 speed. Everything I have found has been for 84-87s, besides the fiero store springs. I do participate in a little autocross so it has to be functional. Thanks.
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IMHO, the best option for lowering springs on an 88 is to cut the existing stock springs.
GM reduced the spring rate on the 88, most lowering spring are in the 300# range, way too stiff for an 88. Cut stock springs only increase spring rate slightly, maybe 20%.
One coil on each corner has worked well.
Addition of the rear anti-roll bar from a GT or Formula will make a significant improvement.
Check out fieroguru's lateral link relocation brackerty as well to improve rear camber characteristics.
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Exactly! I'm not to sure about 88's since I haven't owned one. But if springs are hard to find, just chop off a coil. I've done it a bunch with many cars. The ride is just stiffer, but works perfect. On my 87 I got some ST springs cheap, so I went that route. ST are the lowest springs you can buy.
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Originally posted by olejoedad:


Addition of the rear anti-roll bar from a GT or Formula will make a significant improvement.
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The Formula rear sway bar isn't up to par?
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Lots of info in this thread - Lowering an 88 Formula ???

I won't bother repeating what I already stated in that thread. I will add though that I removed the front lowering springs and replaced them with the stiffest '84 front springs with two coils removed. I'm very pleased with how they feel at autocross. The rear lowering springs are alright, but I'd now like the back of my Formula to be an inch or so lower. The next change might be to adjustable rear coil-overs.

Cutting the front springs works well on a Fiero to lower it... but because of the shape of the rear springs and how they mount/sit, IMO cutting them down doesn't work as well.
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Originally posted by 2.5:

The Formula rear sway bar isn't up to par?


I suspect you've misunderstood what was posted. There is no factory sway bar on the back of an '88 coupe. The suggestion made (and it's a good one) is to install a rear sway bar from an '88 GT or Formula.

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Originally posted by Patrick:

I suspect you've misunderstood what was posted. There is no factory sway bar on the back of an '88 coupe. The suggestion made (and it's a good one) is to install a rear sway bar from an '88 GT or Formula.



Wups yep, I read the statement as to put a GT one on a Formula. oops.
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Thanks for the replies.
Sounds like I will be looking at getting a swaybar.
Although cutting springs seems to be the way to go I'm not too into the idea of cut springs.
Has anyone had experience with the West Coast Fieros coilovers and front springs kit?
A stiff ride doesn't scare me away much.
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Originally posted by Burly1:

Although cutting springs seems to be the way to go I'm not too into the idea of cut springs.


I'm just curious... What is your apprehension in doing so?
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I just would rather do it the right way the first time. I can't help but correlate cutting springs with "slammed" Honda Civic's for some reason.
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Originally posted by Burly1:

I just would rather do it the right way the first time.


...which translates to you believing that using springs which have been shortened by having a coil or two cut off is the wrong way to lower a car.

You realize of course that coil springs don't spontaneously appear at a prescribed length. They're CUT to length from much longer lengths of steel before being formed.

I just think you're cheating yourself of possibly creating something that will perform exactly the way you want... for no valid reason.
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Partially I don't want to mess anything up either. There's a lot more opportunity for error when cutting the spring versus buying different ones. If I mess up my stock springs i'll have to source a new set.
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Originally posted by Burly1:

Partially I don't want to mess anything up either. There's a lot more opportunity for error when cutting the spring versus buying different ones. If I mess up my stock springs i'll have to source a new set.


I never suggested you cut your stock '88 springs.

 
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Lots of info in this thread - Lowering an 88 Formula ???

I won't bother repeating what I already stated in that thread. I will add though that I removed the front lowering springs and replaced them with the stiffest '84 front springs with two coils removed. I'm very pleased with how they feel at autocross. The rear lowering springs are alright, but I'd now like the back of my Formula to be an inch or so lower. The next change might be to adjustable rear coil-overs.

Cutting the front springs works well on a Fiero to lower it... but because of the shape of the rear springs and how they mount/sit, IMO cutting them down doesn't work as well.

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I just don't like the idea of cut springs in general
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Originally posted by Burly1:

I just don't like the idea of cut springs in general


If you use too stiff a lowering spring on an 88 (and for the street, most offering are way too stiff) you end up with a car that handles like a tiddly wink on rough surfaces.
Fine for a racetrack, but on the street they can be dangerous.
Been there, done that, have the T-shirt.

Cut the springs with a hacksaw or die grinder, e-z p-z, no brainier type thing.....
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Originally posted by olejoedad:


If you use too stiff a lowering spring on an 88 (and for the street, most offering are way too stiff) you end up with a car that handles like a tiddly wink on rough surfaces.
Fine for a racetrack, but on the street they can be dangerous.
Been there, done that, have the T-shirt.

Cut the springs with a hacksaw or die grinder, e-z p-z, no brainier type thing.....


Agreed, NEVER USE A TORCH! The heat from a torch cut will destroy the temper in the springs. I cut my 84's fronts one coil and it lowered the front a little over an inch and once I cut the stop tower down the ride is not much stiffer than before.
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Depending on how far you want to lower the vehicle, you could use rear coilovers and Rodney Dickman's lowering ball joints (0.5" and 1.0"). I have coilovers and one inch lowering ball joints on an 88 and like the stance very much.

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I have experimented with cut springs on several 88s.
Removing one coil will lower the front to match the stock rear height.

On my 88, I currently have 86 GT springs in the front, cut by 1.25 coils. In the rear, I have 88 front springs, cut down by ~1 coil.
This increases the spring rate on all 4 corners, but not by much.



As long as you use a cutoff wheel to cut the springs (do NOT use a torch) you should have no issues. After I make the cut, I dress the end with a file, then paint to prevent oxidation.

I'm about to rebuild the entire suspension on an 88 that I just bought. Full poly. Monroe Sensatracs.
The front springs will be cut by one coil. The rears will likely remain stock. Otherwise, no changes for now.

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Never use a torch. I've used an angle grinder many times. Works great! I don't slam them, just lower a bit. Looks way better.
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Originally posted by Raydar:

On my 88, I currently have 86 GT springs in the front, cut by 1.25 coils. In the rear, I have 88 front springs, cut down by ~1 coil.
This increases the spring rate on all 4 corners, but not by much.



Does it increase the spring rate less than cutting one coil off of 88 fronts and leaving them in front?
Also does it leave it the same height as just cutting 1 coil off the front of 88 fronts (thus matching the rear)?
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Spring rate is higher on the pre-88's, so 2 coils from an 86 spring would give a higher rate than 1 coil off of an 88 spring.
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Originally posted by Burly1:

I just don't like the idea of cut springs in general


Drop spindles.
Lowering ball joints.
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All stock '88 suspension, Rodney Dickman's 1" drop front lower ball joints.

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Originally posted by carbon:

All stock '88 suspension, Rodney Dickman's 1" drop front lower ball joints.


For anyone who's only interested in bringing the '88 front end down (to where it should've been from the factory), that method seems to work out very well.

However, if the whole car is to be lowered and/or it's desired for the suspension to be a little stiffer (for autocross etc), the choices become less clear.
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Originally posted by Patrick:

For anyone who's only interested in bringing the '88 front end down (to where it should've been from the factory), that method seems to work out very well.

However, if the whole car is to be lowered and/or it's desired for the suspension to be a little stiffer (for autocross etc), the choices become less clear.


Yup... just giving the example. OP said he doesn't like cutting springs, so here's the example. Sometimes it helps to know the difference individual components make.

Missing where I said I was [/end]ing the thread.

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Missing where I said I was [/end]ing the thread.


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Originally posted by Patrick:

???


You responded as if I hadn't read the rest of the thread or somehow thought this was all one would need to lower the car.

Obviously front ball joints won't affect the rear right height. Just showing the effect of the one mod vs. laundry list + picture.

Edit: Yeah prolly reading too much into this like everyone does around here... just trying to fit in again...

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Originally posted by carbon:

You responded as if I hadn't read the rest of the thread or somehow thought this was all one would need to lower the car.


Man oh man, I gave your post a thumbs up and also stated... "that method seems to work out very well".

You're correct, you read far too much into what I had posted. You possibly need to remind yourself that the OP (and other newbies) reading this thread probably don't know what you and I might know, and it doesn't hurt to re-consolidate what's being said. Geez...

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Tee hee, well that was fun... just messin' with you Patrick.

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Tee hee, well that was fun... just messin' with you Patrick.



No problem... meet my friend.


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Originally posted by carbon:

All stock '88 suspension, Rodney Dickman's 1" drop front lower ball joints.




No other changes required? Seems like a nice choice.
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To the OP's use case, I wouldn't recommend the lowering ball joints on a car that would be autocrossed... it puts more strain in the lower control arm and/or ball joint than what it was probably originally designed to handle. For me it's not really a big deal, but really biting into a corner would make me worry a little bit.




They give the steering knuckle a good additional bit of leverage on the LCA and ball joint itself. Some people have welded them in, I have not and didn't have a problem for the 3 years I drove it before parking it.
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Originally posted by carbon:

All stock '88 suspension, Rodney Dickman's 1" drop front lower ball joints.




Here is the front of my 88 with Rodney Dickman's 1" drop front lower ball joints. Does yours measure 27"?

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Originally posted by Imnuts:

Here is the front of my 88 with Rodney Dickman's 1" drop front lower ball joints. Does yours measure 27"?


That measurement would mean a whole lot more if you also mentioned your tire size/diameter.
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Originally posted by Patrick:

That measurement would mean a whole lot more if you also mentioned your tire size/diameter.


I think they are stock 205/60 15.
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Figured I may as well show what the current stance (with 225/50/16 tires) looks like with my Formula.



 
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I removed the front lowering springs and replaced them with the stiffest '84 front springs with two coils removed. I'm very pleased with how they feel at autocross. The rear lowering springs are alright, but I'd now like the back of my Formula to be an inch or so lower.



And just out of curiosity, I measured the distance from the road to the top of the front fender opening. It was 25.5 inches. The back is 26.5 inches.

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Originally posted by Imnuts:


Here is the front of my 88 with Rodney Dickman's 1" drop front lower ball joints. Does yours measure 27"?



I just went out and measured mine at 26.5"... so pretty close. With as soft as the 88 front springs are, it doesn't take much weight to change the settled ride height.

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I got the fiwro stores suspension kit 2 with the lowering sprungs shocks and swaybars for my 87 328 replica. Got the back on now. Im in the middle of a 3800sc swap and thats how its sitting right this minute. I will say that i like the looks of the new stance
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Originally posted by olejoedad:

IMHO, the best option for lowering springs on an 88 is to cut the existing stock springs.
GM reduced the spring rate on the 88, most lowering spring are in the 300# range, way too stiff for an 88.

My '87 Fiero has an '88 cradle swapped in, with 350 lb/in coilover springs. It doesn't feel too stiff in the back. Actually, it rides smoother than the '87 rear suspension did with Eibach springs. My first impression after swapping in the '88 cradle and suspension was "Hey, the rear end doesn't skitter like a go-kart anymore!"

That said, cutting the springs is a viable alternative, if done properly. Don't cut them with a torch, and don't heat the end with a torch to bend it. That will ruin the temper of the steel. Instead, cut them with an angle grinder or something similar, and drape a wet rag on the spring to help keep it from getting too hot. Just don't snag the wet rag with your angle grinder, that would suck.
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