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Double carpet? by Threedog
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So I have two sets of carpet, both in pretty good condition. One of the cars is going to the junkyard.

I have heard of people installing new carpet directly over the old stuff because it really keeps road noise down. Could a similar thing be done with two sets of stock carpet? Or is it more trouble than its worth?
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It would be too thick. Your better off with sound proofing

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It would be too thick. Your better off with sound proofing



Yeahhhhhh but that costs money. I might just use some spray adhesive and cut up this carpet to use as sound proofing..
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When you buy new carpet, it doesn't always come with jute backing. In that case, you're SUPPOSED to lay it on top of the old carpet.
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I have carpet over the top of old as old carpet is still excellent and you would never know. It is the way to go unless your working on losing weight.
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Originally posted by Threedog:

So I have two sets of carpet, both in pretty good condition. One of the cars is going to the junkyard.

I have heard of people installing new carpet directly over the old stuff because it really keeps road noise down. Could a similar thing be done with two sets of stock carpet? Or is it more trouble than its worth?


I have never heard of this and can guarantee you that it wouldn't work, especially on a Fiero. Not counting the narrow area with tall sides, you would never be able to reinstall the seats or side carpet retainer trim among other things.
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I have carpet over the top of old as old carpet is still excellent and you would never know...


 
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I have never heard of this and can guarantee you that it wouldn't work, especially on a Fiero...


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I still stand by what I said.
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I still stand by what I said.


Of course!
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Ive put new carpet over original carpet before with no problems. My motorhome is really quiet because it has 3 layers of carpet....the original factory, a replacement, and I put a more durable and colorful one over that. I was thinking of putting a hardwood floor in it, but a friend has that and its really noisy.
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I changed the color of my interior and installed the new carpet over the old one. It has been 3 years without a problem.
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I installed new carpet over the old. The only problem I had was bolting the seats down. I really had to press very hard.
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And some people wonder what the difference is between a $12500.00 Fiero and a $2500.00 one.

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So... it can be done.

and Mr. Thunderstruck thinks it's a bad idea.

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Originally posted by Thunderstruck GT:
I have never heard of this and can guarantee you that it wouldn't work, especially on a Fiero.


Hmmmmm SO much for "Guarantees"

 
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I have carpet over the top of old as old carpet is still excellent and you would never know.


 
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Ive put new carpet over original carpet before with no problems.


 
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I changed the color of my interior and installed the new carpet over the old one. It has been 3 years without a problem.


 
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I installed new carpet over the old. The only problem I had was bolting the seats down. I really had to press very hard.


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And some people wonder what the difference is between a $12500.00 Fiero and a $2500.00 one.



Really now..... I have double layer carpet in my car, and it really cut down the road noise.... So now my car is only worth 20% of what it would be if it only had a single layer of carpet! LOL LOL LOL LOL... do you have ANY idea how stupid you sound?

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I installed new carpet over the original last year - exactly the aftermarket carpet manufacturer (Automotive Interiors), Mr. Mikes, and many on this forum recommended.

http://www.mrmikes.com/fierocarpet.htm

Tight fit - but looks and works great. Only way to do it.

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Report this Post03-31-2016 08:36 AM Click Here to See the Profile for tesmith66Send a Private Message to tesmith66Edit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
I'm planning the double carpet thing on my car.

Besides, I really don't care how much my car is worth before or after the carpet.

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Well, I guess I learned something here.

I learned something that restorers of GTO's and Trans Ams would never do and I also learned that my room at the Econo Lodge in Carlisle isn't the only place that has carpet on top of carpet.
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Originally posted by Thunderstruck GT:

Well, I guess I learned something here.

I learned something that restorers of GTO's and Trans Ams would never do and I also learned that my room at the Econo Lodge in Carlisle isn't the only place that has carpet on top of carpet.

The issue is that the replacement carpet is not restoration quality and is not an exact replacement for the original.
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The issue is that the replacement carpet is not restoration quality and is not an exact replacement for the original.


Ahhhhhhhhh.......

Thanks, that explains a lot, I owe you one.
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The issue is that the replacement carpet is not restoration quality and is not an exact replacement for the original.


And very few Fiero owners care about 'restoration'. You can't restore it to it's former glory when there was none in the first place...
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And very few Fiero owners care about 'restoration'. You can't restore it to it's former glory when there was none in the first place...


Certainly not when the parts aren't available.
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It would be too thick. ...



This. Do you guys remember how thick is a stock Fiero carpet? None of the aftermarket ones come close so that is why they can be laid over the stock ones. But in this case, if I understand correctly, the OP wants to put a stock carpet over a stock carpet. Could it be done? Yeah probably you could force it. But it will be a very (and probably not tasty) thick sandwich.

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This. Do you guys remember how thick is a stock Fiero carpet? None of the aftermarket ones come close so that is why they can be laid over the stock ones. But in this case, if I understand correctly, the OP wants to put a stock carpet over a stock carpet. Could it be done? Yeah probably you could force it. But it will be a very (and probably not tasty) thick sandwich.



Thank you!
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But in this case, if I understand correctly, the OP wants to put a stock carpet over a stock carpet. Could it be done? Yeah probably you could force it. But it will be a very (and probably not tasty) thick sandwich.



I would not do that. I would remove the old, in that case.

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I have stock carpet over stock carpet with OEM padding under the bottom carpet, and sound deadening material under it all... mounting the seat rails was a challenge as well as a few other areas, but it is doable.

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Double carpet is fine, but putting sound proofing material down (I realize it is more expensive) and then putting new carpet in would be better.

It's your car tho, so do what you can.
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Really now..... I have double layer carpet in my car, and it really cut down the road noise.... So now my car is only worth 20% of what it would be if it only had a single layer of carpet! LOL LOL LOL LOL... do you have ANY idea how stupid you sound?





Off topic... that color of blue looks AMAZING!!!! What is it and do you have any other shots of the car?

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So now my car is only worth 20% of what it would be if it only had a single layer of carpet! LOL LOL LOL LOL... do you have ANY idea how stupid you sound?





John, you have a nice-looking car. I don't know what happened to the arrow trim. Send some of that sun my way.

That picture really shows the, um--contour of that vendor's quarter windows.

Thunderstruck is doing a different type of restoration. I've restored my Fiero to suit me. Some people don't like it--but it's MY car. My Fiero will never be worth $12,xxx. I'm OK with that. I didn't replace my speakers. I don't use the radio. The speakers are functional, in that they produce sound. Are they good? I don't know or care.

I remember a commercial with Dale Earnhardt, Jr and Michael Waltrip. I'm not sure what it was for, but Michael had a blue alternator, and Dale had a red one. They each thought their alternator was better. Michael said the blue alternator was better. Dale said that people like red better. Michael countered ”yes, people named Dale!” What's important in YOUR Fiero is what's important to YOU. Thunderstruck's restoration method isn't just about the carpet, or a few things. It's apparently about every single detail. More power to him. Is it worth more? Depends on the buyer.
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Off topic... that color of blue looks AMAZING!!!! What is it and do you have any other shots of the car?


 
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John, you have a nice-looking car. I don't know what happened to the arrow trim. Send some of that sun my way.
That picture really shows the, um--contour of that vendor's quarter windows.


Thanks! I have the trim I just had not put it on for that Photo. I as scurrying to get the car to Daytona last year up to the last minute, and a lot of stuff was not completed.

Lets not derail this thread too bad, you can get all the info on the color, paint job, and tons more photo's of the car in my build thread.


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All you can do it try it. If it works then you have saved yourself some money on sound deadening material. I'd bet that the 30 year old carpet is no where near as thick as when it was new so it may work out. I've read on many replacement carpet sites that recommend to install over the old carpet. Let us know how it worked out and if you had any problem or fitnent issues.
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Hay, give it a shot, what ya got to loose,, but just an FYI home depot/ true value/ lowes /ace have rubber roof underlayment with glue on one side.. it is used for the first few feet in areas that get snow/ice.. to keep the ice dams from the frozen gutters from getting under the roofing and leaking into the house.. IIIRC I paid 15 bucks a roll, 2 should do a car, I got 3 as I'm going to go all the way up the firewall and the front wall..
good luck..
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If someone wants the carpet like the original car, and you have double. Its an hour or two job to take one layer out. Its not like you modified anything. Thats like saying they wont buy a classic muscle car thats all stock and perfect...because it has Cragar wheels on it.
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