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EZ Mod for those who have trouble getting in and out of the Fiero? by TheDigitalAlchemist
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I know some folks have bad knees and whatnot...so how about this? Should be pretty easy to do, right?




A few cases of beer, a chainsaw, some duct-tape, and a length of garden hose (to suck out the gas in the tank before you perform the well-known "split-gas tank" MOD)

Maybe even make it do this with the push of a button. Have some kinda smoke canister puff out some smoke when it opens too... Would be awesome to have it flip open at highway speeds. Give you a great view of the road...
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That's interesting!
In all seriousness; for the disabled who have trouble getting in and out of their Fiero's I saw an ad on television for a handle that attached to the door latch. Its called the "Car Cane" .
https://www.carcane.com/?gc...PvzskCFQotHwodMSANVA

Assuming that you don't weigh in at 300 the car cane might work but you also stand a chance of breaking the door latch. Its a weird approach but I guess that there are people who need it and are buying it.

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My truck has a button that automatically adjusts the seat to make it easier to get out, if one needs such a thing. In some other GM vehicles like the Cadillacs with power tilt and telescope steering wheels, it will also raise the steering wheel all the way, and pull it all the way in. Then when getting back in, it will re-adjust everything to the memory set for the key used.

Something similar could be retrofitted into a Fiero. But I think most people who have issues getting in/out of the Fiero, have a problem with the Fiero's height being so low. A custom suspension that could raise the body up a few inches above stock would probably be more helpful.
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Originally posted by Dennis LaGrua:
In all seriousness; for the disabled who have trouble getting in and out of their Fiero's I saw an ad on television for a handle that attached to the door latch. Its called the "Car Cane" .
https://www.carcane.com/?gc...PvzskCFQotHwodMSANVA
Does Not Work on many cars including Fiero. Carefully watch video and Look at the latch loop the "cane" goes into.

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Does Not Work on many cars including Fiero. Carefully watch video and Look at the latch loop the "cane" goes into.


You beat me to it. They would have to make another style to work with the Fiero.

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Originally posted by IMSA GT:


You beat me to it. They would have to make another style to work with the Fiero.



I would assume that most people that own a Fiero are agile but there is an 80 yr old guy in NJ that does drive a Fiero Convertible, (occasionally that is) and sadly he has trouble getting in and out. He is also very well nourished to say the least.

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That would certainly make U turns around the end of the median at the traffic light much easier, wouldn't it?
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Originally posted by Dennis LaGrua:

Assuming that you don't weigh in at 300...

I would assume that most people that own a Fiero are agile...



There are quite a few of us right here on PFF that are close to 300# and not very agile. What would make you think that 300# is a problem and/or you have to be agile to own a Fiero?
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That's a little bit of a concern for me. Worst thing is the build I'm doing will have the seat about 3-4 inches lower than it is now. There are times where I definitely will not be able to drive it. On my bad days I have real difficulty getting around and actually have to use handicap parking. Fortunately my daily driver is an F-150 which is easy to get in and out of.
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Originally posted by Monkeyman:

There are quite a few of us right here on PFF that are close to 300# and not very agile. What would make you think that 300# is a problem and/or you have to be agile to own a Fiero?


If I was anywhere even remotely close to 300 lbs, getting in and out of a Fiero would be the least of my concerns. Seriously. I'd be much more concerned about my health and quality of life.

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Here is the video on the "car cane". IMO, this is a very peculiar invention. If you cannot get in and out of your car, you probably own the wrong car.
I showed this video to my 6' tall 135lb wife and she started laughing.
So without futher adue:
https://youtu.be/LpxPFXyfz3A


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Originally posted by Dennis LaGrua:

Here is the video on the "car cane". IMO, this is a very peculiar invention. If you cannot get in and out of your car, you probably own the wrong car.
I showed this video to my 6' tall 135lb wife and she started laughing.
So without futher adue:
https://youtu.be/LpxPFXyfz3A



Wonder if she'll be laughing when she breaks her hip or gets osteoporosis.
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Originally posted by Patrick:

If I was anywhere even remotely close to 300 lbs, getting in and out of a Fiero would be the least of my concerns. Seriously. I'd be much more concerned about my health and quality of life.



300lbs is on the low side, for an offensive lineman in the NFL. Shaquille O'neal is also close to 300 lbs, though he's a basketball player, and about 7 feet tall.

Weight by itself doesn't necessarily mean one's health is poor. If you're 5'3 and 300 lbs, then yeah, you probably need to lay off the potato chips a bit, but if you're an athlete that's over 6'6 and you weigh 300 lbs, maybe it's not horrible.
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Originally posted by Dennis LaGrua:

Here is the video on the "car cane". IMO, this is a very peculiar invention. If you cannot get in and out of your car, you probably own the wrong car.
I showed this video to my 6' tall 135lb wife and she started laughing.
So without futher adue:
https://youtu.be/LpxPFXyfz3A



I notice there is also what looks like a blade at the other end that they don't mention. Seat belt cutter?
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Originally posted by dobey:

300lbs is on the low side, for an offensive lineman in the NFL.


If there's an offensive lineman in the NFL driving a Fiero, I'll eat my shorts.

You know and I know we're not talking about professional athletes here. We're talking about people who are 300 lbs of something other than muscle.

I've got a cousin who's getting close to 400 lbs. He's been overweight for years, and he's now in his 60's. He's crying about how bad his knees are. Well yeah, I guess so! Lay off the desserts and the chips and the "diet" cola... lose a few pounds!

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Originally posted by dobey:

Weight by itself doesn't necessarily mean one's health is poor. If you're 5'3 and 300 lbs, then yeah, you probably need to lay off the potato chips a bit, but if you're an athlete that's over 6'6 and you weigh 300 lbs, maybe it's not horrible.


Yeah, I have a brother-in-law that's over 6' 4" and exceeds 300. He's a fireman and can get up and down a ladder faster than I ever could, even when I was at 165, fresh out of basic training.
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Originally posted by fierofool:

I have a brother-in-law that's over 6' 4" and exceeds 300. He's a fireman and can get up and down a ladder faster than I ever could, even when I was at 165...


And I wouldn't be surprised if he'd have little to no trouble getting in and out of a Fiero.
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I notice there is also what looks like a blade at the other end that they don't mention. Seat belt cutter?
Yes.
A review @yt

Most cutters have same issue that need belt under tension to cut well. Better ones, like most fire/police cutters, just need less tension.
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Originally posted by Dennis LaGrua:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LpxPFXyfz3A



I wonder how many driver's side bolsters would have been saved from shredding if those handles were used?

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I think I discussed this in tech a few years ago, wanting to put the racing style jack system in the Fiero controlled by the key fob remote entry type button. Forget the kind of racing it was but they use 4 hydraulic rams on each corner to raise the cars height, when getting in and out. I have a bad back that makes it hard to get out of it. in the races they use it to change the tires with.

https://www.pegasusautoraci...tails.asp?RecID=6208

Years ago, think it was the early 70s Chevy had a seat that swiveled, now if there was enough room in a Fiero to use that it would make getting in and out easier. That would be the easiest way to make getting in and out a lot easier, you wouldn't need the entire seat just the lower base the seat rides back and forth on and in this case swivels. you could use your own Fiero seat for that one.

http://www.northerntool.com...8768002&ci_sku=23434

with the jack system it would be handy for changing tires as well, never have to block the wheels as all the wheels go up at the same time. I had a dodge caravan a few years ago that was the exact right for just sliding in and out of it for me and the rest of the family. so I thought if we could raise the Fiero to a height that was easier to get in and out of like the caravan was it would be easier for everyone to get in and out. Then I found out how much those systems cost, like a grand a corner.

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Wonder if she'll be laughing when she breaks her hip or gets osteoporosis.


If she ever gets crippled, then a Fiero is not for her but you are talking about someone in super good shape and she is model thin. I can't imagine her ever having a problem getting out of a Fiero even with a touch of arthritis that eventually we all get a touch of. As for me, if I ever encounter difficulty getting out of my Fieros , then the car is no longer for me. It should also be pointed out that this Auto Cane won't fit a Fiero door latch. It will only scratch, bend and ruin the more modern latches. Its also a Chinese product, with a flashlight, hammer, pseudo seat belt cutter, knife, fork and toenail cutter. The whole idea of this thing is absolutely rediculous.

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Seems to me there's a simple solution for getting out...

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Originally posted by Dennis LaGrua:
It should also be pointed out that this Auto Cane won't fit a Fiero door latch.


An egress aid to go over the Fiero latch bolt might be as simple as a 4" long piece of suitable strength plastic pipe.

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Originally posted by Dennis LaGrua:
If she ever gets crippled, then a Fiero is not for her but you are talking about someone in super good shape and she is model thin. I can't imagine her ever having a problem getting out of a Fiero even with a touch of arthritis that eventually we all get a touch of. As for me, if I ever encounter difficulty getting out of my Fieros , then the car is no longer for me. It should also be pointed out that this Auto Cane won't fit a Fiero door latch. It will only scratch, bend and ruin the more modern latches. Its also a Chinese product, with a flashlight, hammer, pseudo seat belt cutter, knife, fork and toenail cutter. The whole idea of this thing is absolutely rediculous.


Your wife is going to get old at some point. Everyone either gets old, or dies trying. Laughing at elderly people who need to use their upper body to gain leverage to get out of a car, is asinine. None of the people in that commercial are in Fieros. It is a product designed for the elderly, not obese. They need additional leverage getting out of big sedans even. I was simply pointing out how ridiculous you and your wife's attitudes towards that, are.

As for it being a Chinese product. Who cares? You think you don't use Chinese products? You think there aren't ridiculously over-engineered products from US manufacturers? Get a grip. 90% of the electronics that your post went through to end up on this forum, were made in China. Please stop turning everything into an anti-Chinese rally on this forum. It's tiring and detracts from any intellectual or valid discussion about products or the needs of others.
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Originally posted by 84fiero123:
I think I discussed this in tech a few years ago, wanting to put the racing style jack system in the Fiero controlled by the key fob remote entry type button. Forget the kind of racing it was but they use 4 hydraulic rams on each corner to raise the cars height, when getting in and out.


The jack system you are talking about is fairly common in racing. It's not for getting in/out of the vehicle, but for making pit stops that much faster. With all four wheels off the ground, they can all be changed simultaneously, making the change much quicker. For getting in/out of the car, these race cars require climbing through the window and roll cage.

I forget who it was, but some years ago, a member installed this jack system into an IMSA car build. I can't remember who it was though, and am having trouble finding it in search.
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I forget who it was, but some years ago, a member installed this jack system into an IMSA car build. I can't remember who it was though, and am having trouble finding it in search.


Dave Deerson:

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The way to do this for the Fiero without getting into a manufacturing nightmare is to simply take a thick piece of bar stock and drill it for the amount of adjustment you want. Here is a pic I just created. The top hole fits over the lock bolt and the bottom holes are for fitting a handle that can be adjusted for your comfort.


When you exit the vehicle, simply unhook it and toss it on the floor.

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If there's a demand for such a thing it would be easy to have those laser or water cut.
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Now that is what I was talking about and even that little a height difference, and that does look a lot longer than the racing ones to me, would make getting in and out of a Fiero, at least for me and I am sure many other people with back problems, add a swing in seat and I will be able to get in and out with out hurting my back anyway. I wonder how much he had to change the original jacks?

I do have a sunroof in mine thought,

 
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Seems to me there's a simple solution for getting out...



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Now that is what I was talking about and even that little a height difference, and that does look a lot longer than the racing ones to me, would make getting in and out of a Fiero, at least for me and I am sure many other people with back problems, add a swing in seat and I will be able to get in and out with out hurting my back anyway. I wonder how much he had to change the original jacks?

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Sweet, did he happen to mention if he had to get extra long rams or anything about how much it cost him? Not that I could afford it, but maybe others can, seeing by the pictures he built an entire crash bar system all around it I wonder if you could mount those to the Fiero's superstructure. Our if it is air or hydraulic?

Also looks like a great way to store the Fiero for the winter, just jack it up and leave it up.

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edit to add, found the thread, nice work.
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Sweet, did he happen to mention if he had to get extra long rams or anything about how much it cost him? Not that I could afford it, but maybe others can, seeing by the pictures he built an entire crash bar system all around it I wonder if you could mount those to the Fiero's superstructure. Our if it is air or hydraulic?

Also looks like a great way to store the Fiero for the winter, just jack it up and leave it up.

Thanks
edit to add, found the thread, nice work.
Steve




Those systems usually use an external air supply. I.e. you hook the air hose up to the port on the car and the car raises....remove the air and the car lowers. Easy enough to add an internal air pump, but a lot of extra weight.
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I would use that as an anti theft/towing device, all you would have to do it add a valve to the air line to hold the pressure.

To get in and out of a Fiero easily, is just like a Lambo, and every car has one built in, it is called the A-piller, just grab it and pull your self out.
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Video of a guy struggling to get out of a lambo.



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I worked on a Lambo kit and what we figured out, is one foot out, grab the A-piller and pull your self up, otherwise you look like a fool crawling out of the thing. lol

In the vid he tried to get both feet out, does not work.

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