Pennock's Fiero Forum
  General Fiero Chat
  14 years...? (Page 1)

Post New Topic  Post A Reply
Email This Page to Someone! | Printable Version

This topic is 2 pages long:  1   2 
Previous Page | Next Page
next newest topic | next oldest topic
14 years...? by ltlfrari
Started on: 04-27-2015 09:31 PM
Replies: 53 (978 views)
Last post by: css9450 on 05-03-2015 07:51 PM
ltlfrari
Member
Posts: 5315
From: Wake Forest,NC,USA
Registered: Jan 2002


Feedback score: (4)
Leave feedback





Total ratings: 127
Rate this member

Report this Post04-27-2015 09:31 PM Click Here to See the Profile for ltlfrariClick Here to visit ltlfrari's HomePageClick Here to Email ltlfrariSend a Private Message to ltlfrariEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
How come the banner still says 1999-2013 14 years?

------------------
Anything I might say is probably worth what you paid for it, so treat it accordingly!

Dave

www.ltlfrari.com

IP: Logged
PFF
System Bot
VikingRedBaron
Member
Posts: 879
From: Moorhead, MN USA
Registered: Nov 2009


Feedback score: N/A
Leave feedback

Rate this member

Report this Post04-27-2015 09:47 PM Click Here to See the Profile for VikingRedBaronClick Here to Email VikingRedBaronSend a Private Message to VikingRedBaronEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
My guess is because Cliff has not updated it

IP: Logged
Monkeyman
Member
Posts: 15738
From: N. Wilkesboro, NC, USA
Registered: Nov 1999


Feedback score: (5)
Leave feedback





Total ratings: 182
Rate this member

Report this Post04-27-2015 10:21 PM Click Here to See the Profile for MonkeymanSend a Private Message to MonkeymanEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
 
quote
Originally posted by VikingRedBaron:

My guess is because Cliff has not updated it


That's what Cliff said a while back. He just hadn't gotten around to updating the dates. It should be 16 years, now.

IP: Logged
jscott1
Member
Posts: 21674
From: Houston, TX , USA
Registered: Dec 2001


Feedback score:    (15)
Leave feedback





Total ratings: 415
Rate this member

Report this Post04-28-2015 03:03 AM Click Here to See the Profile for jscott1Send a Private Message to jscott1Edit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
The Forum is definitely in a death spiral when the moderator is uninterested in updating the banner for two years.
IP: Logged
Patrick
Member
Posts: 30906
From: Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada
Registered: Apr 99


Feedback score: (1)
Leave feedback





Total ratings: 445
Rate this member

Report this Post04-28-2015 03:56 AM Click Here to See the Profile for PatrickClick Here to Email PatrickSend a Private Message to PatrickEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post

I don't quite understand the reasoning behind not updating the banner either. <shrug>
IP: Logged
ltlfrari
Member
Posts: 5315
From: Wake Forest,NC,USA
Registered: Jan 2002


Feedback score: (4)
Leave feedback





Total ratings: 127
Rate this member

Report this Post04-28-2015 07:46 AM Click Here to See the Profile for ltlfrariClick Here to visit ltlfrari's HomePageClick Here to Email ltlfrariSend a Private Message to ltlfrariEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
 
quote
Originally posted by jscott1:

The Forum is definitely in a death spiral when the moderator is uninterested in updating the banner for two years.


I certainly hope not, I for one would severely miss this place and all the help and support I have received over the years.
There's no way to measure Cliff's contribution to the Fiero community.

------------------
Anything I might say is probably worth what you paid for it, so treat it accordingly!

Dave

www.ltlfrari.com

IP: Logged
Danyel
Member
Posts: 6013
From: Lévis, Québec, Canada
Registered: Sep 2008


Feedback score:    (90)
Leave feedback





Total ratings: 171
Rate this member

Report this Post04-28-2015 06:00 PM Click Here to See the Profile for DanyelClick Here to visit Danyel's HomePageSend a Private Message to DanyelEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
I offered to buy the forum a while back because I wanted the fiero.com domain name ..... he replied not for sale ... so I guess he still has interest but has not the time to do updates...

Danyel

------------------

My Build Thread
Tylers Toy

IP: Logged
jmbishop
Member
Posts: 4419
From: Probably Texas
Registered: Jul 2006


Feedback score: N/A
Leave feedback





Total ratings: 168
Rate this member

Report this Post04-28-2015 06:45 PM Click Here to See the Profile for jmbishopClick Here to Email jmbishopSend a Private Message to jmbishopEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
 
quote
Originally posted by jscott1:

The Forum is definitely in a death spiral when the moderator is uninterested in updating the banner for two years.


I agree, it seems cliff has lost interest.
IP: Logged
Cliff Pennock
Administrator
Posts: 10906
From: Haarlem, The Netherlands
Registered: Jan 99


Feedback score: (2)
Leave feedback





Total ratings: 698
Rate this member

Report this Post04-28-2015 06:49 PM Click Here to See the Profile for Cliff PennockClick Here to visit Cliff Pennock's HomePageClick Here to Email Cliff PennockSend a Private Message to Cliff PennockEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
 
quote
Originally posted by jscott1:

The Forum is definitely in a death spiral when the moderator is uninterested in updating the banner for two years.


Oh brother...

The banner was updated to say "15" years at the beginning of 2014 but I accidentally replaced it with an older version somewhere during the year. If you paid attention, you would have noticed that the Christmas banner, the New Year's banner, the Halloween banner and all other banners I create every year (wow - an uninterested moderator who creates new banners for a bunch of occasions every single year - who would have thought) did say "15 years".

The reason I haven't updated it to 16 years yet is because I haven't come around to it (for some reason, it's not high on my priority list). But hey, if it means so much to you, and if apparently that's the only thing you notice that I do (or don't do) around here, I would gladly change it to 16 years right away for you.
IP: Logged
Cliff Pennock
Administrator
Posts: 10906
From: Haarlem, The Netherlands
Registered: Jan 99


Feedback score: (2)
Leave feedback





Total ratings: 698
Rate this member

Report this Post04-28-2015 06:52 PM Click Here to See the Profile for Cliff PennockClick Here to visit Cliff Pennock's HomePageClick Here to Email Cliff PennockSend a Private Message to Cliff PennockEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post

Cliff Pennock

10906 posts
Member since Jan 99
Wow, I just read the other replies.

Seriously? You guys think this place runs itself? That I don't do anything? Wow. Just, wow.

All because it says "14" instead of "16". You want to see what happens if I just let the forum be for just a couple of days?
IP: Logged
jmbishop
Member
Posts: 4419
From: Probably Texas
Registered: Jul 2006


Feedback score: N/A
Leave feedback





Total ratings: 168
Rate this member

Report this Post04-28-2015 07:24 PM Click Here to See the Profile for jmbishopClick Here to Email jmbishopSend a Private Message to jmbishopEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
 
quote
Originally posted by Cliff Pennock:
All because it says "14" instead of "16".


We see more than that neglected. Don't get me wrong, it's your site, do what you want with it but if you're interested in keeping it going, the path it's on now is not going well.
IP: Logged
PFF
System Bot
Cliff Pennock
Administrator
Posts: 10906
From: Haarlem, The Netherlands
Registered: Jan 99


Feedback score: (2)
Leave feedback





Total ratings: 698
Rate this member

Report this Post04-28-2015 07:31 PM Click Here to See the Profile for Cliff PennockClick Here to visit Cliff Pennock's HomePageClick Here to Email Cliff PennockSend a Private Message to Cliff PennockEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
 
quote
Originally posted by jmbishop:

We see more than that neglected.


Of course. People see what they want to see.
IP: Logged
thesameguy
Member
Posts: 1414
From: California
Registered: Dec 2012


Feedback score: N/A
Leave feedback

Rate this member

Report this Post04-28-2015 07:34 PM Click Here to See the Profile for thesameguyClick Here to Email thesameguySend a Private Message to thesameguyEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
I am pretty new here, but to suggest that this forum is in a death spiral or in any way neglected is insane. You guys should be thrilled the site is up 24x7x365 and/or that Cliff isn't trying to monetize every aspect of it. The number of forums for orphan cars that have literally vaporized over the years or been turned into a banner/inline/popup ad festival to try and earn some money is unreal. This place is amazing, all day every day.
IP: Logged
Chelo Fiero
Member
Posts: 161
From: Ponce, PR.
Registered: Aug 2008


Feedback score: N/A
Leave feedback

Rate this member

Report this Post04-28-2015 07:37 PM Click Here to See the Profile for Chelo FieroClick Here to visit Chelo Fiero's HomePageClick Here to Email Chelo FieroSend a Private Message to Chelo FieroEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
Wow!!! I visit the forum every single day! And I can assure you that Cliff change the banner for every single season of the year!!! Some of us aren't paying attention!! Or just paying an occasional visit...
IP: Logged
jmbishop
Member
Posts: 4419
From: Probably Texas
Registered: Jul 2006


Feedback score: N/A
Leave feedback





Total ratings: 168
Rate this member

Report this Post04-28-2015 07:45 PM Click Here to See the Profile for jmbishopClick Here to Email jmbishopSend a Private Message to jmbishopEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
 
quote
Originally posted by Cliff Pennock:


Of course. People see what they want to see.


You're right, i'm totally alone on this and long time members aren't leaving because you won't take care of things.

[This message has been edited by jmbishop (edited 04-28-2015).]

IP: Logged
Sage
Member
Posts: 2730
From: USA
Registered: Nov 1999


Feedback score:    (13)
Leave feedback





Total ratings: 67
Rate this member

Report this Post04-28-2015 07:56 PM Click Here to See the Profile for SageClick Here to Email SageSend a Private Message to SageEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
 
quote
Originally posted by Cliff Pennock:


Of course. People see what they want to see.


I'm sure "hears" in the song could be replaced with "sees"

Line from Simon and Garfunkel song "The Boxer"......

"Still, a man hears what he wants to hear
And disregards the rest."

When we did a title search for our house, back in 81' or so, it came back with "old" in the space for "Year Built/Age of Home" Guess after a certain point, pin point accuracy just isn't that "critical"?

To be honest, I really never noticed it said 14 years, and not 16 years, guess I was too pre-occupied with the content to notice?

Thanks go out to Cliff Pennock for creating this place and keeping it maintained as one of the best forums on the planet.....for 14 years....er....16 years......for as long as it's been here!

HAGO!

IP: Logged
seajai
Member
Posts: 1537
From: Circle Pines, Minnesota
Registered: Feb 2012


Feedback score:    (42)
Leave feedback





Total ratings: 52
Rate this member

Report this Post04-28-2015 08:16 PM Click Here to See the Profile for seajaiSend a Private Message to seajaiEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
The depth and breadth of information and knowledge contained within this forum is invaluable. It would be a huge loss to the Fiero community if it ever went away. I've done a lot of research over the years for my many projects and more than a few times I've clicked on links in old threads (on other forums) only to find the the forum no longer exists, and this one has been around for 16 years, I think that is something to be proud of.
I'm on here quite a bit and haven't seen anything that would indicate to me that Cliff is asleep at the wheel. I remember the banner discussion last year and didn't even notice that it had reverted back to "14 years". With all of the different holiday banners, he's obviously working on things. I have no complaints about things here and hope it continues for years to come.
IMO, people leave here because of personality disputes with other members. It's not Cliff's job to referee fights, we're all supposed to be adults here and people should know how to behave themselves without Cliff needing to stick a bar of soap in anyone's mouth.

[This message has been edited by seajai (edited 04-28-2015).]

IP: Logged
randye
Member
Posts: 10809
From: New Port Richey, Florida
Registered: Mar 2006


Feedback score: (1)
Leave feedback





Total ratings: 198
Rate this member

Report this Post04-28-2015 08:28 PM Click Here to See the Profile for randyeClick Here to visit randye's HomePageClick Here to Email randyeSend a Private Message to randyeEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
How odd.

I must really be behind the times here.

"Biting the hand that feeds you".

What an interesting new concept!

[This message has been edited by randye (edited 04-28-2015).]

IP: Logged
Monkeyman
Member
Posts: 15738
From: N. Wilkesboro, NC, USA
Registered: Nov 1999


Feedback score: (5)
Leave feedback





Total ratings: 182
Rate this member

Report this Post04-28-2015 09:53 PM Click Here to See the Profile for MonkeymanSend a Private Message to MonkeymanEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
FWIW, it says "16" now. (That's like 145 in dog years. Just sayin'.)
IP: Logged
Patrick
Member
Posts: 30906
From: Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada
Registered: Apr 99


Feedback score: (1)
Leave feedback





Total ratings: 445
Rate this member

Report this Post04-28-2015 10:23 PM Click Here to See the Profile for PatrickClick Here to Email PatrickSend a Private Message to PatrickEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
 
quote
Originally posted by Monkeyman:

FWIW, it says "16" now.


Great... I hope to see 17, 18, 19, 20, etc in the coming years.

 
quote
Originally posted by Cliff Pennock:

The reason I haven't updated it to 16 years yet is because I haven't come around to it (for some reason, it's not high on my priority list).


Those of us who appreciate this forum know that you DO put a lot of work into it. That's what makes it all that much more odd that a seemingly simple task hadn't been done yet almost five months into the current year.

Others might have more of a beef (I dunno), but that's all that was behind my earlier comment.

 
quote
Originally posted by Patrick:

I don't quite understand the reasoning behind not updating the banner either. <shrug>

[This message has been edited by Patrick (edited 04-28-2015).]

IP: Logged
pokeyfiero
Member
Posts: 16172
From: Free America!
Registered: Dec 2003


Feedback score: N/A
Leave feedback





Total ratings: 309
Rate this member

Report this Post04-29-2015 01:03 AM Click Here to See the Profile for pokeyfieroClick Here to visit pokeyfiero's HomePageClick Here to Email pokeyfieroSend a Private Message to pokeyfieroEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
 
quote
Originally posted by jmbishop:


You're right, i'm totally alone on this and long time members aren't leaving because you won't take care of things.


Like what for instance.

I'm a pretty long time member and I know a lot of long time members so your comment really interests me.
IP: Logged
PFF
System Bot
Monkeyman
Member
Posts: 15738
From: N. Wilkesboro, NC, USA
Registered: Nov 1999


Feedback score: (5)
Leave feedback





Total ratings: 182
Rate this member

Report this Post04-29-2015 01:37 AM Click Here to See the Profile for MonkeymanSend a Private Message to MonkeymanEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
 
quote
Originally posted by Patrick:

Others might have more of a beef...



Now I'm hungry for steak. Thanks.

IP: Logged
jscott1
Member
Posts: 21674
From: Houston, TX , USA
Registered: Dec 2001


Feedback score:    (15)
Leave feedback





Total ratings: 415
Rate this member

Report this Post04-29-2015 01:59 AM Click Here to See the Profile for jscott1Send a Private Message to jscott1Edit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
 
quote
Originally posted by Cliff Pennock:


Oh brother...

The banner was updated to say "15" years at the beginning of 2014 but I accidentally replaced it with an older version somewhere during the year. If you paid attention, you would have noticed that the Christmas banner, the New Year's banner, the Halloween banner and all other banners I create every year (wow - an uninterested moderator who creates new banners for a bunch of occasions every single year - who would have thought) did say "15 years".

The reason I haven't updated it to 16 years yet is because I haven't come around to it (for some reason, it's not high on my priority list). But hey, if it means so much to you, and if apparently that's the only thing you notice that I do (or don't do) around here, I would gladly change it to 16 years right away for you.


Sorry if I touched a nerve. Nothing personal, but forum traffic is waaaay down from 16 years ago. The banner was just the icing on the cake to make me say that.

The Texas Round up held last weekend generated ZERO pictures or posts afterwards until I berated those guys. They said all the pictures were on Twitter, why bother posting them here? I've been here since 2001 and loved every minute of it and would give you a kidney if you needed it. But from the user's perspective the forum feels like it's in a death spiral. Sorry, but that is how it seems to me.
IP: Logged
solotwo
Member
Posts: 5314
From: Grand Rapids, MI. USA
Registered: Jun 2002


Feedback score:    (9)
Leave feedback





Total ratings: 62
Rate this member

Report this Post04-29-2015 08:24 AM Click Here to See the Profile for solotwoSend a Private Message to solotwoEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
Wow some people have nothing better to do than complain about a banner? Then chastise the owner of the site? Wow. I wished I had the free time. My old car has WAY to much to be done to it.(Bad grammar I know) Plus the honey do list, plus maintaining the house and yard, working long hours, keeping in contact with my elderly mother, trying to visit the grandkids, trying to find time to ride my bicycle..... trying to find time to do Fiero Events.....hoping to find time to go to some races ... maybe find time to work as a corner worker...... list just keeps going on. LOL

Cliff I feel your pain!

Thank you for all you do! Because of you the hobby is still alive.

Steve
Old Guy with Sports Car

[This message has been edited by solotwo (edited 04-29-2015).]

IP: Logged
ltlfrari
Member
Posts: 5315
From: Wake Forest,NC,USA
Registered: Jan 2002


Feedback score: (4)
Leave feedback





Total ratings: 127
Rate this member

Report this Post04-29-2015 08:38 AM Click Here to See the Profile for ltlfrariClick Here to visit ltlfrari's HomePageClick Here to Email ltlfrariSend a Private Message to ltlfrariEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
My only reason for mentioning it is that Cliff is usually right up there updating the banner each season and year and I thought it was unusual that it was so out of date.
I think that Cliff does an excellent job of running this site and I for one appreciate all the time and effort, not to mention money, that he puts in doing that.
If I'd have known it would kick off such a storm I would not have even mentioned it so I'll just keep shtum from now on.

------------------
Anything I might say is probably worth what you paid for it, so treat it accordingly!

Dave

www.ltlfrari.com

IP: Logged
2.5
Member
Posts: 41184
From: Southern MN
Registered: May 2007


Feedback score: (1)
Leave feedback





Total ratings: 178
Rate this member

Report this Post04-29-2015 10:33 AM Click Here to See the Profile for 2.5Send a Private Message to 2.5Edit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
You are appreciated cliff!
IP: Logged
Cliff Pennock
Administrator
Posts: 10906
From: Haarlem, The Netherlands
Registered: Jan 99


Feedback score: (2)
Leave feedback





Total ratings: 698
Rate this member

Report this Post04-29-2015 10:36 AM Click Here to See the Profile for Cliff PennockClick Here to visit Cliff Pennock's HomePageClick Here to Email Cliff PennockSend a Private Message to Cliff PennockEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
 
quote
Originally posted by Patrick:

Those of us who appreciate this forum know that you DO put a lot of work into it. That's what makes it all that much more odd that a seemingly simple task hadn't been done yet almost five months into the current year.


It's not a bug in the software and it's not an "in your face" nuisance either. So I simply keep forgetting about it.

I spend a lot of time each single day to keep the forum up and running as cleanly as it is.

PFF gets about 500 spam sign-ups a day. Most of them are automatically blocked by my spam detection software but a small percentage does not. That's why activating a registration is still a manual job and I go through each and every single sign-up manually. Checking ip addresses, check if anything about the sign-up might hint it's actually a spammer. Then when I'm 100% sure it's not, I activate the account. This has worked almost flawlessly. Since 1999, only three spammers ever got through. The last a few months ago. Which causes me to have to clean up after them (deleting the spam threads created, deleting spam posts from threads, etc). Most of the time, people don't even notice the spammer has been here.

I also get tons of private messages. People asking me to close threads, clean up threads, change titles, asking for help finding threads, etc. Most of the time I don't even have time to answer those PM's but will of course do what is requested.

I also get tons of PM's from members asking "hey, member X is always pissing in my thread, you need to do something about it!". Most of the time this also means I get a PM from member X saying "hey, member Y is always complaining I'm pissing in his thread while all I do is stating facts, you need to do something about it!". This usually means I have to read through threads that are numerous pages long usually only to find out it's just another ordinary pissing match between two members. And as most of those people are adults (even though you wouldn't say it reading their messages), I usually let them handle it themselves.

Then there's of course making sure the server itselfs keeps running. Updating software, hardware, making backups. Even warding off cyber attacks.

I also constantly add small new features. Or optimize code. Most people don't notice them but it helps keeping the forum fast and responsive, even for a server all the way in Europe.

Then there's administering the facebook page. That takes some time too.

I could go on and on really.

So yeah, changing a number in a banner is something that usually slips my attention. And mediating in a pissing match isn't high on my priority list either. But hey, feel free to think I'm uninterested. Or that the forum is in a death spiral.

Let me tell you a little secret. PFF has lost about 25% of it's traffic in the last 5 year. If you think that's a lot, think again. That's about the lowest number you will find for internet forums. Most forums are dead or have lost so much of their traffic - all thanks to Social Media - that they have become ghost towns. The fact that PFF is still so active is a sign it's actually still very healthy.
IP: Logged
2.5
Member
Posts: 41184
From: Southern MN
Registered: May 2007


Feedback score: (1)
Leave feedback





Total ratings: 178
Rate this member

Report this Post04-29-2015 10:37 AM Click Here to See the Profile for 2.5Send a Private Message to 2.5Edit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
 
quote
Originally posted by jscott1:
The Texas Round up held last weekend generated ZERO pictures or posts afterwards until I berated those guys. They said all the pictures were on Twitter, why bother posting them here?


Twitter, Facebook, they have stolen traffic sure.
I was looking at a thread from a show from a few years ago recently and there was a link posted by a member to his facebook page of a bunch of pics, I clicked the link and it was dead. A Facebook fail.
IP: Logged
ARFiero
Member
Posts: 1262
From: Savannah, GA
Registered: May 2008


Feedback score:    (9)
Leave feedback

Rate this member

Report this Post04-29-2015 10:43 AM Click Here to See the Profile for ARFieroClick Here to Email ARFieroSend a Private Message to ARFieroEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
Cliff the forum is well maintained, don't let anyone tell you differently! I know for a fact how hard it is to keep a system up and running for a long period of time, and to do so so that it appears that there is absolutely no interruptions is an amazing feat! Thanks for keeping it up! I am appreciative of it. If others don't like it they can take the train....sorry couldn't help it. Lol


Shelby
IP: Logged
solotwo
Member
Posts: 5314
From: Grand Rapids, MI. USA
Registered: Jun 2002


Feedback score:    (9)
Leave feedback





Total ratings: 62
Rate this member

Report this Post04-29-2015 04:55 PM Click Here to See the Profile for solotwoSend a Private Message to solotwoEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
I find face book a pain and try to steer clear.
IP: Logged
seajai
Member
Posts: 1537
From: Circle Pines, Minnesota
Registered: Feb 2012


Feedback score:    (42)
Leave feedback





Total ratings: 52
Rate this member

Report this Post04-29-2015 07:03 PM Click Here to See the Profile for seajaiSend a Private Message to seajaiEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
 
quote
Originally posted by Cliff Pennock:

Let me tell you a little secret. PFF has lost about 25% of it's traffic in the last 5 year. If you think that's a lot, think again. That's about the lowest number you will find for internet forums. Most forums are dead or have lost so much of their traffic - all thanks to Social Media - that they have become ghost towns. The fact that PFF is still so active is a sign it's actually still very healthy.


I'm on the 300M forum as well and traffic there is really slow, sometimes threads go for weeks or months without a post. And if you want full access to the entire site you need to pay a subscription fee.


IP: Logged
PFF
System Bot
Danyel
Member
Posts: 6013
From: Lévis, Québec, Canada
Registered: Sep 2008


Feedback score:    (90)
Leave feedback





Total ratings: 171
Rate this member

Report this Post04-29-2015 08:35 PM Click Here to See the Profile for DanyelClick Here to visit Danyel's HomePageSend a Private Message to DanyelEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
 
quote
Originally posted by ARFiero:

Cliff the forum is well maintained, don't let anyone tell you differently! I know for a fact how hard it is to keep a system up and running for a long period of time, and to do so so that it appears that there is absolutely no interruptions is an amazing feat! Thanks for keeping it up! I am appreciative of it. If others don't like it they can take the train....sorry couldn't help it. Lol


Shelby


but still interested in buying the dot com name Cliff
regards
Danyel
IP: Logged
FieroMontreal
Member
Posts: 3092
From:
Registered: Jul 2001


Feedback score: (4)
Leave feedback

Rate this member

Report this Post04-30-2015 01:30 PM Click Here to See the Profile for FieroMontrealClick Here to Email FieroMontrealSend a Private Message to FieroMontrealEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
 
quote
Originally posted by Danyel:


but still interested in buying the dot com name Cliff
regards
Danyel


I don't see why he would want to sell it to you? He's got a perfect reason for keeping it and has the best Fiero page around, it would be bad for traffic to sell it off + he waited so many years to pick it up from the previous owner.


I'm on a lot of forums for various car models, although traffic has gone down on all forums because of facebook this page is surprisingly one of the strongest I still visit. Several other clubs had their forums die because of facebook. I cannot stand facebook pages and tend to stay away from them.

I think Cliff has done a great job, every forum has things that could be better...

[This message has been edited by FieroMontreal (edited 04-30-2015).]

IP: Logged
lordbg0205
Member
Posts: 236
From: cincinnati, oh
Registered: Nov 2011


Feedback score: (2)
Leave feedback

Rate this member

Report this Post04-30-2015 10:01 PM Click Here to See the Profile for lordbg0205Click Here to Email lordbg0205Send a Private Message to lordbg0205Edit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
Thanks cliff, would have pushed my fiero into the river a few years ago before i discovered pff, now with all the input, mods, diy's, and info, its the envy of the neighborhood.
IP: Logged
jscott1
Member
Posts: 21674
From: Houston, TX , USA
Registered: Dec 2001


Feedback score:    (15)
Leave feedback





Total ratings: 415
Rate this member

Report this Post04-30-2015 10:20 PM Click Here to See the Profile for jscott1Send a Private Message to jscott1Edit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
 
quote
Originally posted by FieroMontreal:

I'm on a lot of forums for various car models, although traffic has gone down on all forums because of facebook this page is surprisingly one of the strongest I still visit. Several other clubs had their forums die because of facebook. I cannot stand facebook pages and tend to stay away from them.

I think Cliff has done a great job, every forum has things that could be better...



Cliff has done a great job and I love this forum to death. No disrespect was intended, but from a long time visitor here traffic is waaaay down. I ask why is that? Yeah, facebook, instagram and twitter, but why are those folks over there and not here anymore? One word... Cellphones. The vast majority of folks access the internet on cellphones and this forum (like most forums) is not cellphone friendly.

I would hate to see the archives disappear as they information there is invaluable, but it would also be nice if we had a friendlier platform for real-time communications. Very often I just wish we had a "LIKE" button.
IP: Logged
Kevin87FieroGT
Member
Posts: 1173
From: Michigan
Registered: Nov 2010


Feedback score: (2)
Leave feedback

Rate this member

Report this Post04-30-2015 10:37 PM Click Here to See the Profile for Kevin87FieroGTSend a Private Message to Kevin87FieroGTEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
Thanks Cliff! Banner or not, what a great site and resource for the Fiero community! Looking forward to the 25th anniversary party.
IP: Logged
Danyel
Member
Posts: 6013
From: Lévis, Québec, Canada
Registered: Sep 2008


Feedback score:    (90)
Leave feedback





Total ratings: 171
Rate this member

Report this Post04-30-2015 10:52 PM Click Here to See the Profile for DanyelClick Here to visit Danyel's HomePageSend a Private Message to DanyelEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
 
quote
Originally posted by FieroMontreal:


I don't see why he would want to sell it to you? .........



You are right ... sell it is like FieroMontreal from Buffalo NY
IP: Logged
tshark
Member
Posts: 4374
From:
Registered: Feb 2014


Feedback score:    (6)
Leave feedback





Total ratings: 64
Rate this member

Report this Post04-30-2015 10:55 PM Click Here to See the Profile for tsharkSend a Private Message to tsharkEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
This forum isn't social media. I don't really care about the year up top, the colors currently used, tor much else on here. 16 years says a LOT. It does take a lot to keep a forum with this volume up and running. Usually, the better it runs, the more thankless it is.

I have no interest in facebook, twatter, or whatever else.

I hadn't even noticed that the year changed, until it was mentioned. I figured 14 was here to stay. I appreciate most of the holidy theming, except the one for I think Halloween. Whichever one that made the site difficult for me to use. Anyway, the pirate mods are cool, too.

If you want more traffic, participate more. If you want more pics, post them. Well, there is that small thing I'd like to see be improved.

I do wonder what happens if/when Cliff takes vacation. Cliff seems fairly active on this forum. If you don't think so from just this thread, browse around a bit. Then there's the cleanups. Pages of posts that just vanish. There was one just a few days ago. Of course, if he's making visual changes--however mundane--that's time away from fixing other things.

I'm a new member here, and yes, I'd like to see more activity.

I had a thought. I don't have time to read all the current posting activity, much less run the site, and this is not his full-time job, IIRC.
IP: Logged
2.5
Member
Posts: 41184
From: Southern MN
Registered: May 2007


Feedback score: (1)
Leave feedback





Total ratings: 178
Rate this member

Report this Post05-01-2015 01:52 PM Click Here to See the Profile for 2.5Send a Private Message to 2.5Edit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
 
quote
Originally posted by lordbg0205:

Thanks cliff, would have pushed my fiero into the river a few years ago before i discovered pff, now with all the input, mods, diy's, and info, its the envy of the neighborhood.


IP: Logged
2.5
Member
Posts: 41184
From: Southern MN
Registered: May 2007


Feedback score: (1)
Leave feedback





Total ratings: 178
Rate this member

Report this Post05-01-2015 01:54 PM Click Here to See the Profile for 2.5Send a Private Message to 2.5Edit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post

2.5

41184 posts
Member since May 2007
 
quote
Originally posted by jscott1:
One word... Cellphones. The vast majority of folks access the internet on cellphones and this forum (like most forums) is not cellphone friendly.

I would hate to see the archives disappear as they information there is invaluable, but it would also be nice if we had a friendlier platform for real-time communications.


This I think is true too. Probably take some crazy amount of coding I suppose to make PFF work on phones.

 
quote
Originally posted by tshark:

If you want more traffic, participate more. If you want more pics, post them.


Agreeed!

[This message has been edited by 2.5 (edited 05-01-2015).]

IP: Logged
Previous Page | Next Page

This topic is 2 pages long:  1   2 
next newest topic | next oldest topic

All times are ET (US)

Post New Topic  Post A Reply
Hop to:

Contact Us | Back To Main Page

Advertizing on PFF | Fiero Parts Vendors
PFF Merchandise | Fiero Gallery | Ogre's Cave
Real-Time Chat | Fiero Related Auctions on eBay



Copyright (c) 1999, C. Pennock