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1988 sway bar to frame rubber pieces project by Rodney
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Report this Post08-31-2014 09:42 AM Click Here to See the Profile for RodneyClick Here to visit Rodney's HomePageClick Here to Email RodneySend a Private Message to RodneyEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
I have received some samples:





I only have 3 of each.

I'm looking for someone to install them to see how they fit. Someone who can do it right away and post pictures etc.

I'm wondering on the front ones because of the factory dent in the U bracket. They may need to be ground some to fit better? So someone who is a good craftsman would be appreciated.




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Report this Post09-04-2014 02:48 PM Click Here to See the Profile for RodneyClick Here to visit Rodney's HomePageClick Here to Email RodneySend a Private Message to RodneyEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
Still looking for someone to test these samples. If they work well I'll have a batch made.

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Report this Post09-04-2014 02:53 PM Click Here to See the Profile for fieroguruSend a Private Message to fieroguruEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
I can test them. My 88 still has stock rubber bushings. If they need tweaked, I can do that too and send them back to you as samples.
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Report this Post09-04-2014 03:12 PM Click Here to See the Profile for MRBLUE87Click Here to Email MRBLUE87Send a Private Message to MRBLUE87Edit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
Rodney, I could try them on one of my 88's. I'll be at Fierorama. Could pick them up then if you are going to be there.
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Report this Post09-04-2014 04:15 PM Click Here to See the Profile for GODFATHERClick Here to Email GODFATHERSend a Private Message to GODFATHEREdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
I could try them also if needed.
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Report this Post09-04-2014 04:23 PM Click Here to See the Profile for hiwil88formulaClick Here to Email hiwil88formulaSend a Private Message to hiwil88formulaEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
I can try a set for ya, redoing my front end in the next two weeks.
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Originally posted by fieroguru:

I can test them. My 88 still has stock rubber bushings. If they need tweaked, I can do that too and send them back to you as samples.


Sending them out tomorrow. Happy you will do this. I think they will be OK as is. Once I know that for sure I'll have some made. I'm thinking they will fit under that dented area on the front mounts. I don't think the mold needs to be modified. But let me know.

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Report this Post09-08-2014 06:43 PM Click Here to See the Profile for RodneyClick Here to visit Rodney's HomePageClick Here to Email RodneySend a Private Message to RodneyEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
Paul has tried them and for the most part fit fine. The fronts are very good and need no changes. The rears are slightly too wide between the outer rubber flanges leaving a small gap between the rubber and the steel bracket. So I'm going to have the rear mold reworked to be narrower. Once that is done I'll have a batch of each made. Hopefully I'll have some in stock in a few 2-3 months.

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Report this Post09-09-2014 05:55 PM Click Here to See the Profile for Steven SnyderClick Here to visit Steven Snyder's HomePageClick Here to Email Steven SnyderSend a Private Message to Steven SnyderEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
Those look great, and are something I've wanted for awhile since the universal parts don't fit well. I'm running rubber right now, but will order these once you have them listed on the site.
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Report this Post09-30-2014 11:07 AM Click Here to See the Profile for RodneyClick Here to visit Rodney's HomePageClick Here to Email RodneySend a Private Message to RodneyEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
Paul found the fronts to be slightly too tight (height wise) thus making them somewhat difficult to install because of the small area you have to work in. They would have been OK if the frame was not in the way. So I'm having them modify the molds to make them slightly shorter. The backs will be narrower where the steel band goes around them. I have OK'd the changes and they will modify the molds and make a batch of fronts and rears. So maybe in 4-5 weeks I'll have some in hand.

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Report this Post11-14-2014 07:03 AM Click Here to See the Profile for RodneyClick Here to visit Rodney's HomePageClick Here to Email RodneySend a Private Message to RodneyEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
I have some more samples in and I gave them the OK to make them now. They sent me 3 of each so I have one set (2 front and 2 rear) to give away for R&D. Anyone want to try them? Has to be someone that can install them right away. Post some pictures and give some opinions. Has to be someone with an 88 with the factory front and rear sway bars and OEM steel brackets still in place and unaltered.

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Originally posted by Rodney:

I have some more samples in and I gave them the OK to make them now. They sent me 3 of each so I have one set (2 front and 2 rear) to give away for R&D. Anyone want to try them? Has to be someone that can install them right away. Post some pictures and give some opinions. Has to be someone with an 88 with the factory front and rear sway bars and OEM steel brackets still in place and unaltered.


I'll give it a shot. I need to place an order with you anyway for an emergency brake spring compressor.

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Glad to see you getting into replacement parts for these old cars!! I have been thinking about the steering racks and how scarce rebuilds are getting. If I had a means-$$$- I would have pursed getting a shop to manufacture the bar with the teeth. And may be a foundry to cast new housings. Then offer new racks. LOL all it takes is lots of $$. If I had $$ I would have a plastics manufacture, make replacement inserts for the GT. And a high strength steel insert for the upper control arm bolt for the 84-87 front crossmember. So much for day dreaming.
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I received a set of the 88 front and rear sway bar bushing. I installed the front pieces a few weeks ago and finally got around to installing the rear set today. Hopefully you can see the pictures ok.




Before



After




The rear before.



Compare the old and new.


After


I found the quality the rubber bushing to be very good.
They went on pretty easily. They seemed to be shaped differently than stock, but I think the original rubber was shaped by the attachment brackets. I removed both bracket that hold the bushings and disconnected the upper attachment points of the zero lash end links and slid the bar toward the passenger compartment toward the drivers side. I removed the bracket from the bushing with channel lock pliers. Then removed the old bushings from the bar. I lubed the new bushings with silicone lubricant and installed them on the sway bar. Getting the bracket and new bushing back in place took a little effort. The difficult part for me was getting the two in place and getting the screw in straight. I'm sure there is an easy way to do it but I used a breaker bar, an extension and a socket to create a lever of sorts to push the bracket and bushing in to place while I inserted the screw screws. From what I understand, when the front sway bar bushings were installed at the factory, they did so before the front cradle was installed in the car.




Installing the rear sway bar pieces was a piece of cake.

Rodney, thanks for letting me try these new parts out prior to their official release. It looks like you've produced yet another high quality product that we need. Thanks for your continued support our community.

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Hopefully you can see the pictures ok.


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We encourage people to use PIP when posting at PFF so that the images will continue to stick around for awhile.

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Report this Post02-21-2015 09:13 AM Click Here to See the Profile for RodneyClick Here to visit Rodney's HomePageClick Here to Email RodneySend a Private Message to RodneyEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
These 1988 rubber sway bar to frame bushings are finally here. Some things just take a long time to get finished. But they are here now and in stock.

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Dang! I just put in poly bushings.
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Do we need to re-use the current metal straps?
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Do we need to re-use the current metal straps?


Yes. I doubt anyone would ever reproduce the factory steel straps.

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Looking for someone with an 88 4 cylinder notchback. I asked the manufacturer to make me more of the fronts than the rears. I expect to sell more fronts because the 88 4 cylinder coupes have only a front away bar. They messed up and made more of the rears. So I'm going to have them make more fronts. Before I do that I want to know for sure the 88 4 cylinder coupes have the same size front sway bar as the V-6's. Looking for someone to measure their front sway bar and let me know what the diameter is. As far as I know it is the same diameter as the front sway bar used in the V-6 Fiero. If the 88 4 cylinder coupes have a smaller diameter front sway bar I would only ask them to make enough so I have equal amounts of front and rears.

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Just got home and measured the sway bar on my 88 4cyl parts car, it was a few thousandths less than 1.1 inch.
Really easy to measure with no wheels on the car
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Just got home and measured the sway bar on my 88 4cyl parts car, it was a few thousandths less than 1.1 inch.
Really easy to measure with no wheels on the car


Thanks! Same diameter as the front sway bar used on the V-6 Fieros. So there is only one diameter front sway bar used on all 88 Fieros. 4 cylinder and V-6.

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These look great, but I just put poly in mine.
How bout replacement steering rack bushings for the 88? Not available at all!
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Originally posted by Rodney:


Thanks! Same diameter as the front sway bar used on the V-6 Fieros. So there is only one diameter front sway bar used on all 88 Fieros. 4 cylinder and V-6.


Rodney, all 88s have a 28mm diameter sway bar.

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