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need advice FAST- do I buy 87 gt auto or 85 gt stick? by FieroFanatic13
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I would go for the 87GT automatic. Sure the automatic is a slug but it will merge with traffic and cruise the speed limit and above with no problem, The low mileage is worth a lot. You also will not have the usual clutch slave cylinder and or transmission problems with the automatic. The stick shifts are also slugs, remember they have less than 150 hp. The automatic is a great cruiser and you will simply look better in it. I know because I have an 87GT automatic and I look good in it. Your choice but also consider the repaint of the stick shift. Let us know which way you go and your driving impressions of the car you chose. Good luck on it.
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Please don't change the red one. Part of the appeal to it is the ORIGINAL condition. Stick shifts are easy to find so just keep looking.

Of course I'd also say buy an auto and drive. People act like their testicles will fall off or something. Autos are great cruisers.
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I would go for the 87GT automatic. Sure the automatic is a slug but it will merge with traffic and cruise the speed limit and above with no problem, The low mileage is worth a lot. You also will not have the usual clutch slave cylinder and or transmission problems with the automatic. The stick shifts are also slugs, remember they have less than 150 hp. The automatic is a great cruiser and you will simply look better in it. I know because I have an 87GT automatic and I look good in it. Your choice but also consider the repaint of the stick shift. Let us know which way you go and your driving impressions of the car you chose. Good luck on it.


Repainting does add money but it opens the door to making it his own as well and guarantees it'll look good.
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As of this moment I am picking up the 87 GT auto this weekend. I can't pass on it because of the amazing low 21,000 miles and how crazy gorgeous it is overall in spite of the front end being repainted at some point. The interior looks virtually new! And it ran out great as well. Plus, NEW brakes last summer too. Just a nice car.

Now...I'm already planning mayhem, lol. The fact that is ISNT all original paint may play into my preferred 88 GT look: I am considering having the silver painted to match the upper medium red it and them since it needs new tires for sure I may get out the black powder coated Beretta GTZ wheels I have in the garage. Thinking I'll like that look...
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Please don't change the red one. Part of the appeal to it is the ORIGINAL condition. Stick shifts are easy to find so just keep looking.


See my post above. The 87 is not all original paint, so I don't feel bad about
making it my own. I'll have to have the passenger rear quarter panel touched up due to some small marks from something in the first owners garage bumping it anyway so the shop will have the red paint already mixed up. I prefer the monochrome paint scheme on the '88's plus I have a set of near perfect 16 inch Beretta GTZ wheels in a black powder coat that I want to use on her and they wouldn't go well with the gray ground effects.
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See my post above. The 87 is not all original paint, so I don't feel bad about
making it my own. I'll have to have the passenger rear quarter panel touched up due to some small marks from something in the first owners garage bumping it anyway so the shop will have the red paint already mixed up. I prefer the monochrome paint scheme on the '88's plus I have a set of near perfect 16 inch Beretta GTZ wheels in a black powder coat that I want to use on her and they wouldn't go well with the gray ground effects.


Why spend extra on it due to condition and paint and change it anyway? It's not logical.
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Why spend extra on it due to condition and paint and change it anyway? It's not logical.


I'd be keeping all of the original medium red paint and only changing the ground effects to match. Perfectly logical to me, as it's how I want it and Im not worried about keeping it "original" I guess.
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If that's a problem then perhaps 30 year old cars should not be for you. They will break, & you need to either do the work, or be able to afford to get it done.

Just my opinion, nothing more.

I mean, when you know what can't happen, that sort of eliminates the competition out of the gate, no?



I'm not even sure where you were coming from here. I mention how much a SWAP will cost and you start talking about how it's old and the car might break and that costs money so maybe its not the vehicle for me? Lost me there I guess....

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I'm not even sure where you were coming from here. I mention how much a SWAP will cost and you start talking about how it's old and the car might break and that costs money so maybe its not the vehicle for me? Lost me there I guess....


Sorry... I should have a timer before I jump online after I've woken up.

What I was meaning is that swaps are not terribly difficult, & as far as $800, that's an relatively small price compared to things that break.

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Sorry... I should have a timer before I jump online after I've woken up.

What I was meaning is that swaps are not terribly difficult, & as far as $800, that's an relatively small price compared to things that break.


OK, gotcha. Yeah that part makes sense. Its just that PLANNING to do a swap when buying makes the purchase price that much higher in essence. That's where I was coming from!
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As you get older you will appreciate an automatic. Price-wise automatics cost more than standard transmissions when Fiero's were new. Also, standard transmissions can be more problematic due to the clutch having more linkages. I've also read that clutch pedal assemblies had problems with the steel bending. My vote would be for an automatic plus the low mileage would be a clincher for me. Let us know how you make out and Good Luck with your new acquisition!
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I will definitely report back once I've acquired a Fiero! Appreciate all of the response here just what I was looking for! -Gary
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Why spend extra on it due to condition and paint and change it anyway? It's not logical.


Because that maroon looks better without the silver. I have an 87 that maroon color and I have seen nice 88's and yes martha it looks different. I like it.
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I dont recall a real nice GT in the area. Must be up by you. Gee nice carpet, trunk gasket, trunk carpet, I bet the doors shut nice. I bet the console fits nice and the dash isnt cracked. Probably has nice dew wipes. I have never seen a "new" Fiero before. I like the idea of the low mileage.
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Originally posted by FieroFanatic13:

Okay I can buy an all original 21k mile 87 GT with auto for $4300 or a nicely repainted 77k mile 85 gt 4 speed for $3500. I WANTED a manual but the 87 auto is a 2 owner (1st was lady til 2011, 2nd is middle aged gentleman) medium red with tan interior beauty...

Any thoughts???

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$4300 87 GT with Auto Trans and 21k miles:








$3500 85 GT with 4 speed and 77k miles:









Wow looks like mine, but has better paint and interior. Nice car.
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FYI, If you purchase the 87 I have a Dealers Manual/order book for 1987 if you need any information.
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I dont recall a real nice GT in the area. Must be up by you. Gee nice carpet, trunk gasket, trunk carpet, I bet the doors shut nice. I bet the console fits nice and the dash isnt cracked. Probably has nice dew wipes. I have never seen a "new" Fiero before. I like the idea of the low mileage.


I'm certainly not tellin' where it is until I have the keys, lol! But I AM picking it up this weekend and I can bring it down to let you take a look at it this summer!

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Because that maroon looks better without the silver. I have an 87 that maroon color and I have seen nice 88's and yes martha it looks different. I like it.


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I think that color would look great in the mono paint scheme. Paint the body side moulding, mirrors, ground effects all marron.
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I think that color would look great in the mono paint scheme. Paint the body side moulding, mirrors, ground effects all marron.


I'm not to sure about the moldings but I'm on board with doing the ground effects and mirrors!
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As you get older you will appreciate an automatic...


That about sums it up... Automatics are for old people!

I'm 58 and love my 5-spd Formula.
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go with the manual you'll regret it,
also you might be into the fastbacks, what I wanted aswell but i settled for a notch and love it.
your paying for a low milage car, which decreases in value very fast anyways if you want to drive and enjoy it, the 77K is not very high aswell.
GT sounds better to me.

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Congratulations! You've done well young grasshopper! I found an 87GT auto low mileage fiero 2 miles down the road and still think its Christmas every time I drive it and work on it. Of course, I would like an 88 5spd 3800sc too. That most likely won't happen anytime soon. You are going to have a great time with that car. Your a lucky man Charlie Brown!

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Congratulations! You've done well young grasshopper! I found an 87GT auto low mileage fiero 2 miles down the road and still think its Christmas every time I drive it and work on it. Of course, I would like an 88 5spd 3800sc too. That most likely won't happen anytime soon. You are going to have a great time with that car. Your a lucky man Charlie Brown!



I just LOVE the idea of the interior having that "new car" feel- and this car DOES have that feel- and couldn't pass up this 21k original mile, lady owned car...Looking forward to bringing it home tomorrow! I'll post up pics of it as soon as I can!

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Sooooo have you got your new car?
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Sooooo have you got your new car?


Since today is the same day I posted that I was getting it tomorrow that'd be a "no," lol!
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Is FieroFanatic13 a clue to the current inventory count or the number of Fieros owned or ?

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Is FieroFanatic13 a clue to the current inventory count or the number of Fieros owned or ?



LOL. Over the past 14 years, yes. Currently? Zero. But that will be rectified on Saturday morning! 13 is simply my favorite number.
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Since today is the same day I posted that I was getting it tomorrow that'd be a "no," lol!

 
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LOL. Over the past 14 years, yes. Currently? Zero. But that will be rectified on Saturday morning! 13 is simply my favorite number.


I'm confused - yesterday, tomorrow was today; now today isn't until tomorrow?

I was intrigued by the thread title - now even more so considering the number of Fieros you've had.
I'm reluctant to solicit others' opinions - I might feel guilty if I don't follow their advice...
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I'm confused - yesterday, tomorrow was today; now today isn't until tomorrow?



Um, I posted on the 17th that I was picking up the car tomorrow and he asked if I had it yet later on the 17th. So....


 
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I was intrigued by the thread title - now even more so considering the number of Fieros you've had.
I'm reluctant to solicit others' opinions - I might feel guilty if I don't follow their advice...



And I'm not sure what you mean on this comment? I was asking for opinions on the two Fieros based upon the pics and info I had. Not sure where you were coming from with this?

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So when do we get to see more of it?
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Um, I posted on the 17th that I was picking up the car tomorrow and he asked if I had it yet later on the 17th. So....


Ok, lol - just teasing. Since you posted on the 17th that you were picking it up on the 18th, I was looking for pictures. The pick-up date apparently is tomorrow the 19th so we'll be checking for news then! Hope all goes well!

 
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And I'm not sure what you mean on this comment? I was asking for opinions on the two Fieros based upon the pics and info I had. Not sure where you were coming from with this?


I don't really mean anything exactly - more just musing on my tendency to decide on things without asking others' opinions. Maybe I should rethink that ... Anyway, I was thinking that someone new to Fieros might be inclined to poll the community for preferences more than a 'seasoned' Fiero addict, but there's absolutely no reason not to ask what others think.

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I don't really mean anything exactly - more just musing on my tendency to decide on things without asking others' opinions. Maybe I should rethink that ... Anyway, I was thinking that someone new to Fieros might be inclined to poll the community for preferences more than a 'seasoned' Fiero addict, but there's absolutely no reason not to ask what others think.


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Did you get the car?? How do you like it ?? Let us know.
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Did you get the car?? How do you like it ?? Let us know.


I did pick it up yesterday but haven't posted due to the holiday weekend. Very happy with it! Not perfect but that gives me more room to make it how I want it without feeling bad about not keeping it all original. The interior alone is fun to stare at, lol!

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That about sums it up... Automatics are for old people!

I'm 58 and love my 5-spd Formula.


Wrong again dog breath! LOL I had an 88 5 speed up til last year and I am 63!
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I'm not to sure about the moldings but I'm on board with doing the ground effects and mirrors!




I was in the process of doing that to my 88 and it looked great. Unfortunately I haven't found any spray cans that are the same color as the 87 Maroon. Or those ugly mirrors would be painted by now and I would be working on the moldings and the ground effects.

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Wrong again dog breath! LOL I had an 88 5 speed up til last year and I am 63!


So is 62 the cut-off age for driving a manual tranny then, you old fart. I guess I've got four more years to go.
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So is 62 the cut-off age for driving a manual tranny then, you old fart. I guess I've got four more years to go.


At what age does "old fartism" set in? I'm 62 and am still in my teens.......
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So is 62 the cut-off age for driving a manual tranny then, you old fart. I guess I've got four more years to go.


Hey you young PUNK I still prefer manual over auto. But my car came with it. LOL Any way pay attention, the car he got was like new and it just happen to have an auto.
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