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These rims wont fit will they? by FieroCanada
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Just seen some grand prix gxp rims and thought they would look pretty good on a fiero,
will they fit? i got a 85 se

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Nope...those are 5x115. The Fiero is 5x100.
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Originally posted by CowsPatoot:

Nope...those are 5x115. The Fiero is 5x100.


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You could change your bolt pattern, its a lot of work... Unless you need wide wheels for a widebody, its not worth it.

...The wheels would fit on my car... (insert mad scientist laugh)

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Originally posted by Custom2M4:

You could change your bolt pattern, its a lot of work... Unless you need wide wheels for a widebody, its not worth it.

...The wheels would fit on my car... (insert mad scientist laugh)



We'll I do have big future plans so maby this will come with it to..
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Originally posted by Custom2M4:

You could change your bolt pattern, its a lot of work... Unless you need wide wheels for a widebody, its not worth it.

...The wheels would fit on my car... (insert mad scientist laugh)



Just noticed your location to, I'm a province over in sask haha
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The rims will fit. They aren't too large a diameter. But the wheels won't as they're the wrong bolt circle.

You can of course do hub swaps or such to get the larger bolt circle if you really want to. Then the wheels will fit, along with the rims.
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Originally posted by dobey:

The rims will fit. They aren't too large a diameter. But the wheels won't as they're the wrong bolt circle.

You can of course do hub swaps or such to get the larger bolt circle if you really want to. Then the wheels will fit, along with the rims.


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Actually, those rims could fit.

Its called a Wheel Adapter.
It allows you to go from one bolt pattern to another, but of course it will make your offset that much greater.

Here you go.
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Originally posted by dobey:

The rims will fit. They aren't too large a diameter. But the wheels won't as they're the wrong bolt circle.

You can of course do hub swaps or such to get the larger bolt circle if you really want to. Then the wheels will fit, along with the rims.


Isnt the rim a part of the wheel ?......or are you calling tires 'rims' ? Ive always thought a wheel (AKA rim) was the center and rim as one part except in the case of wheels that come apart. The center is the part that bolts to the hub and the rim is the finished outside edge that the tire mounts to.

Yes you could get adapters that either cost as much a new correct wheel, or take your life in your hands with cheaper adapters.

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Isnt the rim a part of the wheel ?......or are you calling tires 'rims' ? Ive always thought a wheel (AKA rim) was the center and rim as one part except in the case of wheels that come apart. The center is the part that bolts to the hub and the rim is the finished outside edge that the tire mounts to.

Yes you could get adapters that either cost as much a new correct wheel, or take your life in your hands with cheaper adapters.



A rim is as much a part of a wheel, as a rim is as much a part of a drinking glass. You don't call your drinking glasses "rims" so why would you call your wheels "rims" then?

The entire thing is a wheel. The outer edge is the rim, whether it's on wheels, glasses, or the Pacific Ocean.

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Originally posted by rogergarrison:


Isnt the rim a part of the wheel ?......or are you calling tires 'rims' ? Ive always thought a wheel (AKA rim) was the center and rim as one part except in the case of wheels that come apart. The center is the part that bolts to the hub and the rim is the finished outside edge that the tire mounts to.

Yes you could get adapters that either cost as much a new correct wheel, or take your life in your hands with cheaper adapters.



The words "rim" and "wheel" are the same thing, they both refer to the metal circle that the tire mounts to and that mounts to the hub of the car.
Tomato, tomatoe, some people say rim, others say wheel.
If you want to be specific, like dobey said, the rim would be the outer part, technically.

Yes, you could get a new correctly spaced wheel, but the wheel that the OP was looking for aren't sold anymore, so that option isn't valid.
I don't really know what you mean, but those adapters I linked to are $75.00 for 2, made out of Billet Aluminium. That's not cheap.
I know people who run adapters for hundreds of thousands of miles with no issues, so I don't know what you're afraid of.

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Darth Fiero is running Bonneville 17x8 wheels with 5x115 bolt pattern on his Fiero.

http://www.fiero.nl/forum/Forum1/HTML/090358.html

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A rim is as much a part of a wheel, as a rim is as much a part of a drinking glass. You don't call your drinking glasses "rims" so why would you call your wheels "rims" then?

The entire thing is a wheel. The outer edge is the rim, whether it's on wheels, glasses, or the Pacific Ocean.



The part you wrote, as I understood you, was the rim would fit the car, but the wheel bolt pattern wont fit. That sounds like you mean the rim is the tire...saying the tires will fit but the but the wheel center wouldnt bolt up. Yes I call the whole metal piece (or pieces) a wheel...some do call that a rim. I never heard anyone call a tire a 'rim' hence my confusion. And...technically, the outer edge is generally called the lip, and the whole 'barrel' is the rim minus the center . In other words most wheels consist of a center ( hub, w/ mounting holes) and a rim (barrel) which does have a lip. Some rims/wheels can have a tire completely mounted and inflated without a center at all (ie/ 19.5s) If I missunderstood you, my fault.

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Welcome to shopping for Fiero wheels!
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Originally posted by DKcustoms:

Actually, those rims could fit.

Its called a Wheel Adapter.
It allows you to go from one bolt pattern to another, but of course it will make your offset that much greater.

Here you go.


Should actually be this set for 5x100 on vehicle to 5x115 on wheels:
http://www.prowheeladapters...1-wheel-adapter.html

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Originally posted by craigsfiero2007:

Darth Fiero is running Bonneville 17x8 wheels with 5x115 bolt pattern on his Fiero.

http://www.fiero.nl/forum/Forum1/HTML/090358.html


Wow those really do look nice. Might have to buy some wheel adapters then
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Should actually be this set for 5x100 on vehicle to 5x115 on wheels:
http://www.prowheeladapters...1-wheel-adapter.html


Good catch, thank you.
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Are any of you ever considering the weight of these oversize wheels and tires and the negative effect it has on acceleration from a standing start?
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Originally posted by FieroCanada:


Wow those really do look nice. Might have to buy some wheel adapters then


Note in the thread that he has made some accommodation for front tire rub due to the adapters and wheel width.

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Originally posted by rogergarrison:
The part you wrote, as I understood you, was the rim would fit the car, but the wheel bolt pattern wont fit. That sounds like you mean the rim is the tire...saying the tires will fit but the but the wheel center wouldnt bolt up. Yes I call the whole metal piece (or pieces) a wheel...some do call that a rim. I never heard anyone call a tire a 'rim' hence my confusion. And...technically, the outer edge is generally called the lip, and the whole 'barrel' is the rim minus the center . In other words most wheels consist of a center ( hub, w/ mounting holes) and a rim (barrel) which does have a lip. Some rims/wheels can have a tire completely mounted and inflated without a center at all (ie/ 19.5s) If I missunderstood you, my fault.


You misunderstood yes.

The wheel is the entire thing. The rim is the outer edge, or indeed, the barrel the tire mounts to. I would never refer to the tire as the rim. The tire is the tire. The lip is the inset on the outer face of the wheel.

Yes, it is very common now in the US for people to incorrectly refer to wheels as "rims." And every time I see/hear it used that way, it just gets more annoying.
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Originally posted by DKcustoms:
The words "rim" and "wheel" are the same thing, they both refer to the metal circle that the tire mounts to and that mounts to the hub of the car.


They are not the same thing. "Rims" used to refer to the whole wheel is a product of ignorance and sadly has spread throughout the US as colloquially valid.

If you want to learn the hard way, go to a bicycle shop and buy some rims for your bike. Then try to mount them without the spokes and hub.
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Good lord... are you two really having this conversation?
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They are not the same thing. "Rims" used to refer to the whole wheel is a product of ignorance and sadly has spread throughout the US as colloquially valid.

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While your convincing the country to use correct terminology... Get the wanksters to pull up their damn pants and wear a belt. Cheers.
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second that on the whanksters, when I see it it makes me want to give em a wedgie.
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While your convincing the country to use correct terminology... Get the wanksters to pull up their damn pants and wear a belt. Cheers.


I'm just waiting for them all to shoot each other.
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You can mount a tire to a bicycle wheel/rim and inflate it without spokes and a hub....just sayin.
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Originally posted by rogergarrison:
You can mount a tire to a bicycle wheel/rim and inflate it without spokes and a hub....just sayin.


Yes. But you can't mount it to the bicycle. And it's not a wheel without the spokes and hub, it's just a rim.

Just sayin.

But nobody was talking about mounting tires in this thread.
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I have a set of Koenig Incident wheels and tires, check the Mall for ad. Can send a pic to your email if you send it to me.
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