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1986 SE 2M4's by Dburger
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Does anybody have an approximate production number for the '86 SE 2M4? Yes, with the factory aero fascias?

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The Fiero Enthusiast's guide says that in 1986 there were 4,031 SE coupes that were 4 cylinder. Most of the SE coupes were V6...28,274.
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Originally posted by Gall757:

The Fiero Enthusiast's guide says that in 1986 there were 4,031 SE coupes that were 4 cylinder. Most of the SE coupes were V6...28,274.


Thanks for that. Basically another option to the Indy.
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Anybody here actually have one?
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Thanks for that. Basically another option to the Indy.


Yeah, but with a 5 speed and a much better electric and AC system and parts common to other Fieros. But I'd love to have an Indy, too.

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Originally posted by fierofool:


Yeah, but with a 5 speed and a much better electric and AC system and parts common to other Fieros. But I'd love to have an Indy, too.


If you had an 87 SE you'd get the gen II motors, but I'd rather have the one that nobody talks about, which is the 86.
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I know you're speaking specifically of the '86 SE four cylinder cars, but I would make an argument that one of the absolute rarest cars out there - other than some specific '88 model trims - in Fiero production has to be a 1987 SE four cylinder that is factory blue with black ground effects. If you consider for 1987 that only 3,875 cars total were aero SE cars - counting both four and six cylinder - and then consider that out of 46,581 1987 cars made total for that year only 4,458 were painted blue, that means that roughly out out of every 11 or so 1987 cars you would come across they would be painted blue. Then consider further ratios of base coupes, GT, and aero SE cars produced that year, that means that if my incredibly fuzzy math is proceeding along as I think it should then there has to have been likely at the very most maybe a few dozen total 1987 SE four cylinder cars painted blue. Then consider potential attrition rates, and the existing numbers dwindle even further.

I personally have only seen one 1987 aero SE four cylinder that was blue and I've been around Fieros for quite a long time.

In any instance, any occurrence of a 1986 or 1987 four cylinder aero SE car can at this point begin to be considered fairly hard to come by considering the relative oddity of the option itself. Most individuals who were ordering four cylinder cars would have just stuck with the base cars, and if you were ordering a 1986 or 1987 aero SE it would have made sense during that time to pay the little extra to get the V6.
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Wow, I had no idea such a thing even existed. Nice find! Now that's a rare car.
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Originally posted by Fiero84Freak:

I know you're speaking specifically of the '86 SE four cylinder cars, but I would make an argument that one of the absolute rarest cars out there - other than some specific '88 model trims - in Fiero production has to be a 1987 SE four cylinder that is factory blue with black ground effects. If you consider for 1987 that only 3,875 cars total were aero SE cars - counting both four and six cylinder - and then consider that out of 46,581 1987 cars made total for that year only 4,458 were painted blue, that means that roughly out out of every 11 or so 1987 cars you would come across they would be painted blue. Then consider further ratios of base coupes, GT, and aero SE cars produced that year, that means that if my incredibly fuzzy math is proceeding along as I think it should then there has to have been likely at the very most maybe a few dozen total 1987 SE four cylinder cars painted blue. Then consider potential attrition rates, and the existing numbers dwindle even further.

I personally have only seen one 1987 aero SE four cylinder that was blue and I've been around Fieros for quite a long time.

In any instance, any occurrence of a 1986 or 1987 four cylinder aero SE car can at this point begin to be considered fairly hard to come by considering the relative oddity of the option itself. Most individuals who were ordering four cylinder cars would have just stuck with the base cars, and if you were ordering a 1986 or 1987 aero SE it would have made sense during that time to pay the little extra to get the V6.


I think I saw a blue 87 SE that was a convertible, and then there was a blue SE 2.5 5 speed for sale recently

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My first Fiero (that I owned in the late 80s/early 90's) was an 86 SE with 2.5/5-speed set up. It didn't have the 2M4 decal though. It was Silver/Black with a luggage rack (I didn't mean that to rhyme)
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Originally posted by 92wastheyear:

My first Fiero (that I owned in the late 80s/early 90's) was an 86 SE with 2.5/5-speed set up. It didn't have the 2M4 decal though. It was Silver/Black with a luggage rack (I didn't mean that to rhyme)


Somebody could've changed something. I did see a definite 86 SE 2M4 with a luggage rack though.

Had the opportunity to buy a silver 87 SE 2.8 5 speed, but in the pictures the key was on and the oil pressure was low.
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Somebody could've changed something. I did see a definite 86 SE 2M4 with a luggage rack though.

Had the opportunity to buy a silver 87 SE 2.8 5 speed, but in the pictures the key was on and the oil pressure was low.


I don't think it was changed (but I don't know for sure), I just think it was weird. I am pretty sure I bought it in 88 (it might have been 89) with 28K. I drove it until it had 110K and sold it in 93.

I got $2500 plus another Fiero (an 85 duke with a 4speed in poor shape). I spruced it up and was set to sell it for $700 when my cousin swooped with an offer of $1100. (took 4 days to sell it). So not bad all told

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I don't think it was changed (but I don't know for sure), I just think it was weird. I am pretty sure I bought it in 88 (it might have been 89) with 28K. I drove it until it had 110K and sold it in 93.

I got $2500 plus another Fiero (an 85 duke with a 4speed in poor shape). I spruced it up and was set to sell it for $700 when my cousin swooped with an offer of $1100. (took 4 days to sell it). So not bad all told


85 4 speed with a duke?
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85 4 speed with a duke?


Might have been an 84.....I had the car for a week, 20 years ago
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