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HOLLEY side scoops------hard to find Not now.... by fireboss
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I admire your resin casting technique but whats so special about the Holley name? You can buy the same scoop from the Fiero Store with "Fiero" on it. I use this scopp as well but had to open it up for more air for use with my 3800SC . The false grill on my scoop has been cut open and several 1/2" holes were drilled below that cannot be seen. Point is that this scoop is great on a 2.8L V6 but not so great if you have an engine swap.

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I have one laying around I should see how high prices are and sell it someday.
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The Holley scoops were crazy high priced until The Fiero Store brought their scoop out. I bid on a few on E-bay but they all went up to high for me. I couldn't see how the were worth $150 to $200. I got The Fiero Stores scoop for around $25, and the price for the Holley scoop came way down in price. I don't know what the Holley scoops are now but it would be neat to replace the Fiero in the middle of the scoop with the Holley letters.

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Originally posted by Dennis LaGrua:

I admire your resin casting technique but whats so special about the Holley name?



Five more HP. :wink

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Originally posted by TheDigitalAlchemist:

Awesome work, fireboss!


I am surprised you aren't making something similar or completely different product on your 3d printer.
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This reminds me...my throttle body has ”holley” on it. I was told this isn't stock, but all the Fieros I've owned had this. I did see one on ebay that was clearly modified.
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Originally posted by css9450:
Five more HP. :wink


Didn't you know? That's why NASCAR ”stock” cars are so much faster than their counterparts from the showroom. All those decals! ”Stock” means different engine & transmission, change the drive wheels and differential, remove the speedometer, change the shocks, springs, sway bars and brakes, add a splitter, remove all lights, and swap glass for plexiglass. Oh, and change the fuel tank to a fuel cell. Yep, sounds stock.

Sorry to derail.
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Has anyone got permission from Holley to copy their item?

I know a few people that got infringement letters from manufacturers for doing this exact thing. One actually went ahead and sued.
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Originally posted by Dennis LaGrua:

I admire your resin casting technique but whats so special about the Holley name? You can buy the same scoop from the Fiero Store with "Fiero" on it. I use this scopp as well but had to open it up for more air for use with my 3800SC . The false grill on my scoop has been cut open and several 1/2" holes were drilled below that cannot be seen. Point is that this scoop is great on a 2.8L V6 but not so great if you have an engine swap.



Thanks...
Nothing really special,just one of those low production run and the Holley name novelty.
I believe someone did an air intake test on these style scoops but I could be wrong.

Anyway the Holley emblem ones are hard to find and seem to always fetch more when for sale.
I had made a run of them and they are simple as pie to swap out the Fiero emblems for the Holley..
I got some PMs for some so guess I will make another batch up.

EDIT to add...if anyone knows the story behind the Holly branded scoops (if there is one) please explain it to us.

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Originally posted by fireboss:


Thanks...
Nothing really special,just one of those low production run and the Holley name novelty.
I believe someone did an air intake test on these style scoops but I could be wrong.

Anyway the Holley emblem ones are hard to find and seem to always fetch more when for sale.
I had made a run of them and they are simple as pie to swap out the Fiero emblems for the Holley..
I got some PMs for some so guess I will make another batch up.

EDIT to add...if anyone knows the story behind the Holly branded scoops (if there is one) please explain it to us.




The intake system is designed by Holley for the Fiero hence the scoop. Look at the throttle body on your 2.8L: Holley.
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Originally posted by tshark:

This reminds me...my throttle body has ”holley” on it. I was told this isn't stock, but all the Fieros I've owned had this. I did see one on ebay that was clearly modified.


Totally stock. Holley produced many parts for GM over the years. Anyone who says the Holley throttle body on the V6 isn't stock, doesn't know what they're talking about. Next time someone tells you that, tell them you'll sell the throttle body to them for only $300, since it's such a rare item.
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Originally posted by johnt671:

The Holley scoops were crazy high priced until The Fiero Store brought their scoop out. I bid on a few on E-bay but they all went up to high for me. I couldn't see how the were worth $150 to $200. I got The Fiero Stores scoop for around $25, and the price for the Holley scoop came way down in price. I don't know what the Holley scoops are now but it would be neat to replace the Fiero in the middle of the scoop with the Holley letters.



I was kicking myself for not selling when they were high.

I had taken mine off years ago as I just did not like the look and it just wanted to fill with snow when I was still daily driving even in the winter.

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Selling product or just the logo can and will get you sued for ignoring Trademark and/or Copyright.
If you sell anything Holley then expect Holley or people Holley pays to do this to send a "cease and desist" letter at minimum.
Many companies operate on fees generated by searching for then going after people who makes whatever and sell that under big names.
Selling to another country then "Customs" for either/both can bite you for selling counterfeit items.

 
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Totally stock. Holley produced many parts for GM over the years. Anyone who says the Holley throttle body on the V6 isn't stock, doesn't know what they're talking about. Next time someone tells you that, tell them you'll sell the throttle body to them for only $300, since it's such a rare item.

Holley make/made parts for Ford too. Example: Holley Staged 2 barrel carbs for 2.0l and 2.5l OH cam engines in Pinto and other cars. Holley logo was hidden inside the float well here.

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Didn't Holley make some kind of dress up kit for the duke? I seem to remember some posted a set in the mall. It was a snap on plastic cover for the valve cover and the top of the air filter in black plastic with chrome lettering. Maybe the scoop started as part of that kit? That was another thing I'd like to been able to pick up but the timing wasn't great for me. Maybe I'll try posting a want to buy in the mall.
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Originally posted by johnt671:
Didn't Holley make some kind of dress up kit for the duke? I seem to remember some posted a set in the mall. It was a snap on plastic cover for the valve cover and the top of the air filter in black plastic with chrome lettering. Maybe the scoop started as part of that kit? That was another thing I'd like to been able to pick up but the timing wasn't great for me. Maybe I'll try posting a want to buy in the mall.

dress up kit for 86 and older I think... Made big bore 300 TBI etc.
Hooker and maybe others made Headers too.
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Originally posted by fireboss:
I used a 2 part silcone mold
and for the actual part I used a casting resin


Interesting! Out of curious, how do you line up two pieces together? I see you've created three points each side along with a big pin & hole to line up right. How do you do that? This is good info to know for possibility of making other parts if needed. Thanks.

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Interesting! Out of curious, how do you line up two pieces together? I see you've created three points each side along with a big pin & hole to line up right. How do you do that? This is good info to know for possibility of making other parts if needed. Thanks.

Look at outside of mold sections. His mold has/had a "case," likely Rubbermaid etc container, the mold live in and likely didn't need much Registration.

Most Silicon molding need a container to hold shape before the compound sets up.
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Originally posted by theogre:

Look at outside of mold sections. His mold has/had a "case," likely Rubbermaid etc container, the mold live in and likely didn't need much Registration.

Most Silicon molding need a container to hold shape before the compound sets up.


Right, I can see a container was used.

But how did he create two pieces (lower & upper pieces) & kept it separated from the same container? I guess he created the lower piece first & added pins & pebbles.

Once it's dried, he pours the second piece on top to cover the other side of "Holley". So, the pins would line up right when pouring casting rein into two pieces and bond together.
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Originally posted by css9450:


Five more HP. :wink


If you are talking about scoop vs stock (no scoop) , I don't not believe that there is any evidence to suggest that this scoop gives more horsepower. Perhaps at highway speeds there is a ram flow effect but I highly doubt that it has any significant influence on power. Is there any test or source that proves otherwise?

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just like the orge said,used an old food container.

poured the bottom mold then after it cured,applied a silicon mold release agent then let it dry completely then poured the second part..

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Originally posted by Dennis LaGrua:

If you are talking about scoop vs stock (no scoop) , I don't not believe that there is any evidence to suggest that this scoop gives more horsepower. Perhaps at highway speeds there is a ram flow effect but I highly doubt that it has any significant influence on power.



I agree; its almost certainly a negligible improvement.... I was just making a funny.
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