I am putting together a team in the Charlottesville, VA area. Car will be a Fiero GT. I ran last year for someone else at Summit. Looking to do Summit in June and CMP in Sept. I only have one other driver at this point. I have several people whom say they want in but we all know how that goes when it comes down to it ($$$$$). Please let me know if you are interest in talking about either driving or just being a part of the team.
Can you post some details? Like what you need as far as safety equipment, what would it cost me etc. I always found this to be intriguing and wanted to do one.
I am also doing the lemons race at summit point this summer! I already have a team though so i can't help you out unless maybe i drive with you at CMP. CMP is to far for me to haul my junk and crew. I'd have no problem with bringing myself though.
I'm calling DIBS on this paint scheme !
Let me know if you'd be interested in me driving with you at CMP.
You have to have your own gear, fire suit, helmet, gloves and shoes. You can go cheap on this stuff of about 500. http://store.24hoursoflemon...category/?tag=safety or you can get the better stuff about 750 which I have and is nice. You do not have to buy from that link. If you go direct to Pyrotech you can get it it a little cheaper than through the lemons site. Also found this place even cheaper but dont know much about them http://grm.racingjunk.com/O...Driver-Packages.html
Each of the four drivers will also be responsible for their 1/4 of all the car fees and cost. fees are 1000 and the cost of running the car is estimated at around 1000-1500 for fuel, tires and so on. For this I will keep records to show total cost. So figure 1/4 to be about 650 plus the $250 car entrance fee So if you have your own fire suit already 800 - 900 per entire weekend
JT and I had some brief discussion on how close my car is to meeting the rules for Lemons and Chumpcar. My car actually needs some additional cage work to pass tech in either group, but nothing that is too difficult.
While I try not to hijack other people's threads, this is probably a good place to bring this up, since it may help him as well. I have been asked if I was willing to get my car ready for the 14 hour Chump car race in Daytona in May or Sebring later in the year. How do some of you guys that have done this, split the "real" costs since I am guessing a couple people probably do most of the car work and others are more just drivers.
If I show up with a race ready car, spares and tools to run, I really don't want to split the entry fee, and fuel costs evenly when the other drivers are pretty much just showing up and driving. By the time the race starts, the hard part of getting the car ready to race is done. In my case the person who asked could afford the whole thing but does not have an appreciation for what it takes to get a car ready to race. Anyone else split costs in a time vs. cash system?
If it was Le Mans I dont think I would be asking people if they want to drive for me..........oh yeah also I dont think a Fiero fits thier rule book anymore ;~}
If it was Le Mans I dont think I would be asking people if they want to drive for me..........oh yeah also I dont think a Fiero fits thier rule book anymore ;~}
I ran CMP last year in my contour. Trying to pick up a C3 vette here to do.
First things - Everyone who says their word is golden and you can count on is fulla **** . money and time talk. Its a huge undertaking but WELL worth it in the end.
I found several c4 on craigslist for $1000 that had damage but would have worked well for racing. This is when I was looking and not sure what I was going to run. But I always kept saying I really want to run a Fiero. I have always had them and my favorite why would I race anything else. So that is what we are doing. The car I am picking up does not need much to be ready to race so that is a plus. I will just have to do what "I" want to do to it.
Are you planning to do Summit or just CMP this year?
Right now I am on ebay trying to find a couple of sets of 17" wheels to work
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Anyone interested in running a LeMons race would be doing themselves a favor by contacting John Stricker (jstricker). He no longer posts here, but he can be reached via email. John has run several LeMons races, although in a Toyota, and has a lot of good knowledge about what you can do, what you can't, etc. The thing to keep in mind....you cannot have more than $500 in your car, with safety equipment being the exception.
JT this will be my first lemons race. The 500 dollar rule is good to keep cars competitive. I picked up my 85 gt for 100 bucks about 6 years ago or so. its been sitting waiting for me to put a v8 in it but i think it will do just fine for the lemons race. The rules make it seem if you can part out the car you can reinvest that money into the car. I found a u pull it that sells engine for around 200 if you pull it yourself . . . any engine
This is the last lap from Capital Offense 2011. Driving for Rusty Tear Racing. The car was basically all bone stock 2.8 with izuzu 5spd. Yes the car was slow. The tires were way to tall and gave us a horrible acceleration. The front end needed to be lowered a bunch. The car just on the verge of being to loose. This was good for rotation but would quite often result in having to back off on the exit. Still we did finish 3rd in class!!!!
I sponsored two Chumpcar teams with projector headlights last year I look forward to supporting those teams next year. In Chumpcar, the lights were considered "safety equipment" and did not effect the overall value of the car. This is a profound advantage that many teams do not see.
The races that I will run in Lemons does not run at night. I am thinking about running a chump car at VIR in the fall that is a true 24 hours. I would need a good setup for the night race then.
We -trueleo racing- race a very competitive MR2 -the white one below- in chump and lemons, here's a link with showing how my son kept the cost down while still building a fast car. I'm sure you can apply much to a fiero project. Go to Cost and Budget at the link below. http://trueleo.com/BiohazardBudget.htm
i would be very interested in running the race. i used to work at gateway intertnational raceway in st. louis area when i lived back home in illinois. now i live in maryland right outside of dc due to being in the navy. let me know if you are still looking for people. thanks david
also i have all the required safety equipment... probably better than what they require because i worked fire safety at gateway i have top of the line fire suit, gloves, boots, and helmet.
Gee--seems like LeMons has caught on big. I hear there's a North Texas PFFer getting a Fiero ready for it as well. I watched JStricker and the Mighty Toyota run at Houston a few years ago, and If you can't participate, at least go see a race--it's a hoot just to watch the judges mete out "penalties". Sometimes, I think they made up the rules as they went along that weekend.
I would really love to see a bunch of guys and girls from PFF come out to Summit and chear on the FIERO's We have 2 from here and I am sure the black 82 will be there as well. A PFF crowd would be awesome. I guess we are going to have to see about a PFF banner to fly over our pits???????? Hey Cliff you hear that? Anybody want to donate to the cause? Also have to have some PFF stickers on the cars
I didn't remember seeing anyone else post from North Texas about running lemons but would love it if there was.
We aren't finished with the car yet, so far we have just two drivers, once the car is finished we will be looking for people with their own gear and don't mind paying their share of the entry to drive with us.
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If I can join in....... We ran an 88 Formula in a LeMons race a couple months back at Infineon raceway. What a blast. Started out like this
and at the end of ....or rather in the middle of lap two we looked like this
That last photo is after the judges had a bit of fun with paint cans. We are scheduled to run at Infineon again in March. There was another Fiero running out of the S.F. Bay area. Dont have a picture of his Fiero, but this was the team at tech inspection
if I as physically capable and able to get to the track I would LOVE to be the 3rd driver. it's an experience for only the true car nuts. I use to be able to drive a car for hours and hours on end with no break. you really become part of the car.
Thanks for the good luck, bullet. I am sure we will need it, we are racing a Fiero after all. You know you can always come hang out with us at the track. Everybody is welcome to come hang out in my pits.
Should be going to pick up the car in two weeks.
