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Who has the cleanest 3800SC Swap? by tomanyfieros
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Just noticed every motor pictured has the emission caped off? Does that provide better performance or is it just to keep the clutter down? Also, does it effect the reliability of the motor (I know you would need to re flash the ECM)?

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That looks nice Guru!
Where did you mount the coil pack? and those must be custom wires...




I mount the coil down below on the firewall near the gas tank. As long as your ignition system is in proper order, there is no reason to worry about rain and arching wires. If your wires are shot, then yes, they are more likely to cause a misfire due to wetness. I'm very anal about my maintenance, so I don't ever worry about this.

Here is a quote in the last paragraph of this post from a swap I recently did about mounting the coils in that location...

http://www.fiero.nl/forum/F...HTML/081274.html#p22

I've been sent a few pm's telling me that the coils will short out and wires will arch out when they get old.....well, maybe then they need to be replaced, eh?
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Bump...

No more 3800 swaps since 07/2010?
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If this thread lasts that long, there will be another set of pictures starting in mid June.

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If this thread lasts that long, there will be another set of pictures starting in mid June.

Nelson


Mine is still a ways out also... Working on the wiring now and my OCD is getting the better of me...
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Mine is FAR away. I've got the flywheel! ^_^

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in the car and running i love it !!
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This is one of the cleanest L67 swaps I've seen. The only thing that I think wasn't perfect about it was the ignition wires, but the rest of the swap was immaculate. Don't know who's it is, only that it was at the 25th show. Absolutely beautiful.


Don't remember who's it is, but it is by far, the dirtiest I've ever seen.
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Damn that is looking good.... That engine bay looks clean and tight. I love how those motors look under the hood in these cars. Also easy to get to the plugs from what I hear. Any idea what color you are going with on the car? Congrats on a sweet fiero... peace

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Ryan at Sinister Performance did an excellant job on mine. This is the second summer, the engine and transmission are running strong and are dry as a bone.

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As some of you may know, I am now the owner of skitime's 3800sc GT. It's probably about as sanitary as any swap I've ever seen, especially when you consider it was constructed nine years ago when this was not a very common engine swap. When I look at these more recent swaps, they are absolutely spectacular, but I can see many idea's that were carried over from skitime, even to this day. His method almost became the default procedure.

Today, I would have to say bmwguru Dave performs the most thought out, functional and reliable 3800 swap. He simply puts more thought into the harness, wire routing, location of the coil-pack and a thousand other details that are often glossed over.

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Originally posted by Pete Matos:

Damn that is looking good.... That engine bay looks clean and tight. I love how those motors look under the hood in these cars. Also easy to get to the plugs from what I hear. Any idea what color you are going with on the car? Congrats on a sweet fiero... peace

Pete


Thanks Pete.

The car is currently getting a widebody installed, and it will be torch red.

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Sick man...Sick lookin' design. Cannot wait to see it!! Since it is getting done down in Atlanta and Deano is doing it, when it is near finished I may ride down there and see it in person. I am always up for a ride in a 3800SC sick Fiero... peace

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I have to say that Skitime is on the few first that started the clean 3800 installs.....Unlike the rest of us he did it without alot of pictures, information, ect and did one hell of a job doing it....He set the bar high for others to follow which many of us have.......
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Don't remember who's it is, but it is by far, the dirtiest I've ever seen.


Looks like DarkHorizons car when I saw it at the 25th....
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Don't remember who's it is, but it is by far, the dirtiest I've ever seen.


Looks like DarkHorizons car when I saw it at the 25th....
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Very nice!

I see an intercooler in there; but I do not see a deck-lid notch! How was that accomplished?
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P.O did an intricate job of modifying the hinge and relocated the mounting points on the decklid. It looks stock yet has almost a full inch of clearance. These are all part of the reasons skitime did such a nice job on his swap... a bit of a pioneer you might say.
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Customer's car:


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Here is my Mike Gonzalez swapped 3800 into my 88 gt





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Definatly a dirty motor

Damn decklid is off showing dirty hinges



What kind of supercharger is this? Looks different than a stock 3800 SC
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What kind of supercharger is this? Looks different than a stock 3800 SC


eaton m112

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Sabooo's swap:




Charlie's swap:




Michael's swap:



The Gerb's swap:



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Michael's swap:





I don't know what it is about this one, but I like it best
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I'll vote this one. Nice!!
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I don't know what it is about this one, but I like it best


No fair as that is NOT a supercharger.
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No fair as that is NOT a supercharger.


But it started out as one.... Come to the dark side of the boost nosrac.
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But it started out as one.... Come to the dark side of the boost nosrac.


When is the car going to be back at Tx so you can bring it to one of the larger shows? The Ruckus is coming up next.....
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I saw Jason's (Fierofreak00) in person at the Lititz show and I am very impressed by his builds.....top notch

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When is the car going to be back at Tx so you can bring it to one of the larger shows? The Ruckus is coming up next.....


It's running and driving, but it needs to be finished up (tuned etc). I'm hoping the end of summer for sure. I'll try to make it out to the next meet here in Houston and bring pics and such so everyone can see the progress.
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I saw Jason's (Fierofreak00) in person at the Lititz show and I am very impressed by his builds.....top notch

Dave


While I have only seen pictures I will agree.....Attention to detail over the whole swap...The air brushing pushed it over the top....Very nice work........
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Can I vote for mine?

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How did you get smooth valve covers for painting like that. Every 3800 I have seen had ribbed valve covers.

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Here is my series III engine swap. Not the cleanest install but I think that it looks pretty decent.

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How did you get smooth valve covers for painting like that. Every 3800 I have seen had ribbed valve covers.


I think he filled in the ribs and painted over it all.
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NOPE !! they are ZZP aluminum valve covers painted !!
here is mine finaly done ..
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Some good looking engines here but I've got to say that the nicest looking 3800 supercharger that I saw was the one in Earl Sessions (lildevil) Fiero. I could never figure out how he got that blower so smooth looking and one day I met him at Carlisle and asked him. He told me that he blasted the case clean and then worked the surfaces with a coat of Bondo all over and smoothed it out. Then Earl sanded it smooth, primed and painted it. I thought the method was unorthodox but the end result looked great. Earl is a body and paint guy so I guess this is how he decided to approach his presentation.
If Earl reads this I hope that he will post a picture of his supercharger. He has an outstanding looking car and engine compartment,

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Some good looking engines here but I've got to say that the nicest looking 3800 supercharger that I saw was the one in Earl Sessions (lildevil) Fiero. I could never figure out how he got that blower so smooth looking and one day I met him at Carlisle and asked him. He told me that he blasted the case clean and then worked the surfaces with a coat of Bondo all over and smoothed it out. Then Earl sanded it smooth, primed and painted it. I thought the method was unorthodox but the end result looked great. Earl is a body and paint guy so I guess this is how he decided to approach his presentation.
If Earl reads this I hope that he will post a picture of his supercharger. He has an outstanding looking car and engine compartment,

I did the same porcess with my blower looked like polished aluminum before i started with eching primer and then paint lots of coats !



and the end result was super clean !
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