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After 3 years, It gonna run...and fast! by MOBILE
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What do i need that for ???? All i have to do is get Adam to pull the bin-file after a few pulls on the street, send it to Brian at Intense & he can change the file as need be & send it back


But that will still take you all summer to get that done..

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And YOU of all people should talk ?????? LOL !!!!!
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So Friday night we swapped the rocker plates around and they definitely seem to line up on the valves better. Then filled it up with oil and cranked it over until it was all prelubed.

I then placed an order for a custom PCM from Intense, and a pro version of HPTuners. Now I just have to wire the dumb thing and figure out how to tune it!!

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So Friday night we swapped the rocker plates around and they definitely seem to line up on the valves better. Then filled it up with oil and cranked it over until it was all prelubed.

I then placed an order for a custom PCM from Intense, and a pro version of HPTuners. Now I just have to wire the dumb thing and figure out how to tune it!!

Chad


Be sure to scan all the time while running that Intense PCM. They are well known for causing issues.....

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Why would you get the pcm from them if you are getting HPT anyway?

I suggest you start with a 98 base file at least if you are going to get a PCM from those hacks as you cant change your OS after you unlock it in hpt.
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Be sure to scan all the time while running that Intense PCM. They are well known for causing issues.....



OH GOODY... What should I look for?

 
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Why would you get the pcm from them if you are getting HPT anyway?

I suggest you start with a 98 base file at least if you are going to get a PCM from those hacks as you cant change your OS after you unlock it in hpt.


I needed a PCM, and they had a package deal going where they set it up for free. Being that I am not experienced with HP yet, I just had them set it up as a '98 and do the easy crap so it should at least start with my current mods. Delete the evap, egr, trans stuff, change limiters, 42lb inj., etc. I told them I'm running the S1X with the north* and LQ MAF and an intercooler, so I don't know what all they messed with...

So I should just wipe it and load a stock 98 file? I do have a few acquaintances that are very good with HPT in the LS1 market, would they be helpful with the 3800 PCM?

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Doesn't matter.....it'll be light years before it's running anyhow, so while were all racing Jetson's cars at Mach 10, Chad will still be figuring out 1990's wiring & PCM code
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Doesn't matter.....it'll be light years before it's running anyhow, so while were all racing Jetson's cars at Mach 10, Chad will still be figuring out 1990's wiring & PCM code


Whats with all the smack talk? Positive encouragement works better, it seems like he's at least "trying" to do something on it, which is better than leaving it on a backburner.
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Whats with all the smack talk? Positive encouragement works better, it seems like he's at least "trying" to do something on it, which is better than leaving it on a backburner.


Since you don't know this..Mobiles car is at PURPLE REIGN shop on one of his lift's..
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Since you don't know this..Mobiles car is at PURPLE REIGN shop on one of his lift's..


Yep. And it has been there for a long time...
As a matter of fact, when I was last at Purple Reign's shop, I believe there was half an inch of dust on MOBILE's car.
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Whats with all the smack talk? Positive encouragement works better, it seems like he's at least "trying" to do something on it, which is better than leaving it on a backburner.


Like they said, it's a long time running joke. All in fun of coarse, Chad is one of the best buddies a guy could have. But !!!! this car has been with me going on 4 years now on a lift since the series one died. In fact i bought another lift simply for that accommodation. For the short time it DID run, previously you'll see in this pic it has been with me since my FIRST shop between 2001 & 2004 !!!!!! i have a better pic, but PIP isn't working
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Yep. And it has been there for a long time...
As a matter of fact, when I was last at Purple Reign's shop, I believe there was half an inch of dust on MOBILE's car.


Well...The dust has been removed. Washed it to help the motivation factor.

Here are some of the parts I keep collecting. Time to stop spending money and start installing all this crap...

First, my exhaust idea. I spend 2 hours on the freeway each day with a getrag, and the high RPM's caused my old Flowmaster to drone really bad. So, this time around I'm trying a quiet stock replacement crossflow muffler for a 3rd gen Camaro, and a 3" Electronic Cutout from DMH. It's varible, and with the Headers that Purple Reign is building (some day ) it should have plenty of volume and flow when I need it.





I'm cleaning up and reusing my old Dual 4" exhaust tips, which fit perfectly in the GT bumper, and look obnoxious.



Next, a new Innovate LC-1 Wideband O2 sensor for Shawn to install after the Y-pipe. I'll use this with HP Tuners, and an Analog gauge that you'll see in a minute.



And lastly for today, Speed Hut overlays, with matching Speed Hut Revolution gauges. These are awesome. All the gauges have min/max recall, settable warning lights for min and max, all Full Sweep electric stepper drive motors with high quality transducers. I'm using 6 total. I'm replacing the volt and oil and adding a water temp for the intercooler between them, then 3 more on the pillar for BOOOOST, fuel pressure, and an analog Wide Band Air/Fuel gauge.(pre-programmed to work with the Innovate LC-1).

Speed Hut was a dream to work with, and because I bought a fair amount, he threw in all kinds of extras for free. I even had him add a 1,000rpm to the tach and set the red line for the 3800



I'm working on the wiring as we speak. The PCM is re-pinned for this install, and I'm currently rewiring all the sensors. 6 weeks until the Frazee days...

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Awesome... glad to see you're still at it!

There have been no electrical fires in our Saturn yet either...

 
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Next, a new Innovate LC-1 Wideband O2 sensor for Shawn to install after the Y-pipe. I'll use this with HP Tuners, and an Analog gauge that you'll see in a minute.



I want one of those so bad...

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Awesome... glad to see you're still at it!

There have been no electrical fires in our Saturn yet either...


I want one of those so bad...



I can't wait to start tuning this thing!!

Here is some proof that the header project has begun!! (again ) Shawn is mocking up pipes on a junk long block at his shop.
He slaved over them this weekend and completed the rear bank. They look awesome! I get some pics soon. Hopefully we'll finish the front bank this weekend, then off to get them ceramic coated...



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I see he's working at his NORMAL speed ..

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I see he's working at his NORMAL speed ..



I had to wait a bit longer than usual (2 years) but his progress lately is lightning fast!!

Here is a few quick teasers of the pipes tacked into place. Hopefully we'll finish them this week, and get them off to be coated...

The Front:



And the Rear:




Now I'm working on wiring and the fuel setup.

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You made Shawn buy gas for his welder? LOL
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You made Shawn buy gas for his welder? LOL


HA! No he actually bought it himself. Along with a new tip, finding out that the last tip he bought the guy sold him the wrong one... Welder works very good now. Both sides are done, along with the Cone Engineering collectors that have turbulence tips on the inside. Makes them easier to seal welding too. Now onto the Y-pipe...

Chad

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I see he's working at his NORMAL speed ..



OMFG like YOU have room to talk !!!!! I have to try to keep this place alive AND do side/fun work, slacker !!!!

Like i said anyhow, i will have built headers & exhaust and it'll all rust off the block before it ever runs anyhow !!!!!!!
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LOL...

It's good to be in MN...
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Well, here is another update... I was thinking the other day about why I had my passenger carpet out. OH YEAH, duh, because every once and awhile my heater core LEAKS!! So I threw in a new one. And while I was at it, I had Napa search for another core for my intercooler. I just didn't like how the fins were bent over right at the outlet of the blower. AND ZZP wanted $175.00 Napa found one, and it is a perfect match to mine.

Fiero Core: $65 Intercooler Core(which is made much better) $44.00





Here is Shawn slaving away at notching the decklid. After a little welding, my painter buddy Dave picked up the decklid and took it home to do some fiberglassin'








More to come... 3 weeks until Frazee...


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Here we are the Saturday before the show. I'm still wiring, and here's a pic of Shawn's skills. I just got them back from Ceramic coating. Hopefully we'll put them on this weekend so we can finish the rest of the exhaust...



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Why would you get the pcm from them if you are getting HPT anyway?

I suggest you start with a 98 base file at least if you are going to get a PCM from those hacks as you cant change your OS after you unlock it in hpt.



I believe that Intense Racing locks their programs so HPT becomes useless. As for that guys PCM's; they've had more problems with them than you can shark a stick at. Use a stock GTP and go to work on the tuning yourself. If you make simple changes to the tuning and take your time, you will get to the optimum power point after several tries.

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Well, after spending an extra week in the hospital with my son after surgery, I wasn't able to finish the car for Tyler's Frazee show. It's 90% done, and should be ready in a few weeks. Still contemplating bringing it to the show unfinished. If so I'll really need to clean it up tonight!!

~Chad~

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Well, after spending an extra week in the hospital with my son after surgery, I wasn't able to finish the car for Tyler's Frazee show. It's 90% done, and should be ready in a few weeks. Still contemplating bringing it to the show unfinished. If so I'll really need to clean it up tonight!!

~Chad~


My offer still stands. I could help out for a couple of hours after 8 PM. I'll give Shaun a call later about the great gathering tonight.
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Here is a shot of the engine tonight. It a crappy phone pic, but you can see it's coming along. I installed the Purple Reign low mount alternator bracket/dog bone mount. I removed the stock chassis dog bone bracket from the shock tower back when I installed my series I SC engine over 10 years ago. Shawn will be fabricating something new to replace that hopefully in the near future.

I didn't want to use the stock Fiero alternator, so I located a new 2nd gen CS130 with the internal fans from a 95 Buick that has mounting holes 180 degrees apart. It is a 105 amp, which should be plenty for what I'm doing. With a little custom work, it fits like a glove.



More to come this week. The wiring is over half done. Soon I'll be working on wiring the Speedhut revolution gauges.
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My offer still stands. I could help out for a couple of hours after 8 PM. I'll give Shaun a call later about the great gathering tonight.


I should have offered you a rag when you stopped by!! I think I was there until 3:30am that night...

It was good to see all the MFF guys and PFF guys in Frazee, and on the trip up.

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as this hilarious thread can't die...........reread the first post carefully as his story changes every day "3 years ago i pulled my smoking series 1" followed by "3 years of getting my drivetrain together" that's right folks 6 years plus that post was in April 2009, without a whole lot different Um, and the part about the wiring being done in the next few weeks........yeah

Ask Cliff to change the thread title every year as the digits roll
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Chad, you should not feel bad. Most of my home improvement projects are 90% done as well.
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Tonight I removed the shifter and installed The Rodney Dickman Getrag Shifter Rebuild Kit. It is another awesome product from RD. The shifter was very sloppy before, with lots of play in all directions. With the new bushings, shims, and replacement parts, I am 100% confident that it is BETTER than new. Highly recommend this to anyone. I also have his short shifter and short throw kit, along with a ton of his other products...

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Nice bump!

Sounds like my build, except mine's been sitting outside for years instead of in a shop.. Finally back to it this month and it's been great fun! Yours is looking very good by comparison though..

I have to ask - do you have a P/N or a "donor" vehicle for the intercooler heater core? I'm going to machine my own IC housing and that looks like a great unit. Prefer not to have to sift through them all at Autozine if I can help it!

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Report this Post07-25-2011 01:34 PM Click Here to See the Profile for PURPLE REIGNClick Here to Email PURPLE REIGNSend a Private Message to PURPLE REIGNEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
ROFLMAO !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! notice he posted this in April 2009, the car has now left the shop incomplete, the same way you saw the last pic, and now sitting in his garage with most stuff still in boxes !!!!!! LOL !!!!!!

Hey Chad, will that thing even be done for your kids college fund ???!!! Better start looking for parts in the "vintage" section LMAO !!!!!
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Report this Post07-26-2011 08:51 PM Click Here to See the Profile for Riceburner98Click Here to Email Riceburner98Send a Private Message to Riceburner98Edit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
Poor Fiero... At least it's in a garage and not in the grass!
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Report this Post07-27-2011 10:11 AM Click Here to See the Profile for jwrapeSend a Private Message to jwrapeEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
Gorgeous garage

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86 Fiero 2M4 Silver, and 86 GT

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Report this Post02-06-2013 04:59 PM Click Here to See the Profile for PURPLE REIGNClick Here to Email PURPLE REIGNSend a Private Message to PURPLE REIGNEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
Um.......so does it run ??? ( snicker snicker ) Come on man, that thing hasn't run since 2005 !!!!
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Report this Post02-06-2013 06:44 PM Click Here to See the Profile for s550wSend a Private Message to s550wEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
He shouldn't feel too bad....I bought 2 at once. Guy had been rebuilding the engine for one...I haven't done anything to it since I bought it in 2002. I did have hte 4-cyl engine rebuilt in the other one though....
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Chad... do it!

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Report this Post02-18-2014 08:12 PM Click Here to See the Profile for Silicoan86Click Here to Email Silicoan86Send a Private Message to Silicoan86Edit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
At the start of this thread - "After 3 years, It gonna run...and fast!"

That was 5 years ago... this project has been going on longer than the Fiero was in production.
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Originally posted by Silicoan86:

At the start of this thread - "After 3 years, It gonna run...and fast!"

That was 5 years ago... this project has been going on longer than the Fiero was in production.


This project has been going on longer than I have been out of Fieros
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