Be aware of your surroundings and keep a safe distance between yourself and young males. This looks like a new "game" that many urban youths are playing today.

And as usual the family defends one of them. "he's a good person. He got's a job". I'm sorry, but he's a lowlife just like the punks in Spokane who beat a world war two to death last year.

People are so sick.

quote Originally posted by dratts: And as usual the family defends one of them. "he's a good person. He got's a job". I'm sorry, but he's a lowlife just like the punks in Spokane who beat a world war two to death last year.

That's what I was thinking. Unless the term "good person" has been redefined to mean "worthless piece of crap who should suffer the same fate as his victim", then no, he *isn't* a "good person".

"The main goal of the future is to stop violence. The world is addicted to it.

There are some people who have trouble recognizing a mess.

We're not raising children with the love that we need to.

Every closed eye is not sleeping, and every open eye is not seeing."
-Bill Cosby

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quote Originally posted by 2.5: "The main goal of the future is to stop violence. The world is addicted to it. There are some people who have trouble recognizing a mess. We're not raising children with the love that we need to. Every closed eye is not sleeping, and every open eye is not seeing." -Bill Cosby

THIS!!! Not a huge fan of Cosby, but he speaks the truth here.

Anyone else noticed a dramatic change in just one generation?? Me, my parents, my grand parents, ect.. We were all raised with the good old fashioned ass whooping when WE DESERVED IT (not abused) and I feel my generation (generation X? ) is the last of that era... Yes we got in trouble, yes we did stupid things, but hate crimes were almost non existent. We got into fights, we had scores to settle but we didn't try to kill each other and we sure as heck didn't try to hurt defenceless elderly people. Kids today have no idea what respect is. If they can't respect and obey their own parents, then how are they going to function in society????

quote Originally posted by Purple86GT: THIS!!! Not a huge fan of Cosby, but he speaks the truth here. Anyone else noticed a dramatic change in just one generation?? Me, my parents, my grand parents, ect.. We were all raised with the good old fashioned ass whooping when WE DESERVED IT (not abused) and I feel my generation (generation X? ) is the last of that era... Yes we got in trouble, yes we did stupid things, but hate crimes were almost non existent. We got into fights, we had scores to settle but we didn't try to kill each other and we sure as heck didn't try to hurt defenseless elderly people. Kids today have no idea what respect is. If they can't respect and obey their own parents, then how are they going to function in society????

BIG part of it, there are no parents, or if they are lucky there is one sometimes.

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quote Originally posted by 2.5: BIG part of it, there are no parents, or if they are lucky there is one sometimes.

Maybe... I have 2 kids (9 and 5) and me and my wife are doing our best to raise them. They are both very good kids and I love them to death. My son often tests me and my wife (he is 9). He has a few "talking back" episodes where me, as a kid, I would of received a quick backhand to the face. Bes I can do now is send him to his room with no TV... :/ Or take away a toy... It seems they "forget" the consequences of doing something wrong much quicker than I used to as a child. First time I talked back to my dad was also the last... I was never abused, I feel my parents raised me right but they didn't F-around with discipline and teaching respect.

quote Originally posted by Purple86GT: Maybe... I have 2 kids (9 and 5) and me and my wife are doing our best to raise them. They are both very good kids and I love them to death. My son often tests me and my wife (he is 9). He has a few "talking back" episodes where me, as a kid, I would of received a quick backhand to the face. Bes I can do now is send him to his room with no TV... :/ Or take away a toy... It seems they "forget" the consequences of doing something wrong much quicker than I used to as a child. First time I talked back to my dad was also the last... I was never abused, I feel my parents raised me right but they didn't F-around with discipline and teaching respect.

Each kid is different. I was spanked too. Parents can still do that.
Maybe standing in the corner would work better than in their room with stuff to do, too.

Nice, the little fkers should get the chair, then hung in a public square just to show the rest we mean business.

WTF is wrong with these kids. Don't answer its not a Question I know whats wrong with them, they need a good beating from their own parents but we are so PC that the parents are in fear of disciplining their own kids. I wonder if that was the boy Obama never had?

Steve

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This is probably only happening in areas where you arent allowed to concealed carry. Wont be happening around here. I would have no problem smoking a crowd of them.

Disgusting...

But young males have always been the most dangerous types to be around. In the old times, we just had periodic wars, clan clashes, duels etc. as an outlet sanctioned by society. We don't have that anymore in the "civilized" world.

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I foresee this backfiring on them at some point... somebody is going to **** with the wrong guy.

quote Originally posted by dratts: And as usual the family defends one of them. "he's a good person. He got's a job". I'm sorry, but he's a lowlife just like the punks in Spokane who beat a world war two to death last year.

Exactly, I'm sick and tired of hearing this BS line all the time. Face it, your brother is a piece of sh!t, if you don't want to admit it, don't talk about it publicly.

quote Originally posted by yellowstone: Disgusting... But young males have always been the most dangerous types to be around. In the old times, we just had periodic wars, clan clashes, duels etc. as an outlet sanctioned by society. We don't have that anymore in the "civilized" world.

We gots boxing, MMA, etc tho.

quote Originally posted by 2.5: We gots boxing, MMA, etc tho.

But most people are just spectators. They don't get to beat anybody up.

quote Originally posted by yellowstone: But most people are just spectators. They don't get to beat anybody up.

Its their choice though, theyd rather knock out homeless people.
..Or people going to work, or women.

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The urbanization of humanity has some nasty side effects.

Here is a twist on the game. These teens attempted to use a stun gun on a victim that had a concealed carry permit.

http://www.mlive.com/news/i...ock_it_out_brut.html

quote The game was called "point 'em out, knock 'em out," and it was as random as it was brutal. The object: Target an innocent victim for no other reason than they are there, then sucker punch him or her. But on this day in Lansing, there would be no punch. The teen-age attacker had a stun gun. He did not know his would-be victim was carrying a legally concealed pistol. The teen lost the game. Last month, more than 400,000 adults could lawfully carry hidden handguns in Michigan. That’s one in 17 men and women 21 or older, more than since records have been kept. An MLive Media Group investigation found that crime numbers continue to drop across Michigan, even as police ranks decline. Some see the seemingly contradictory trends as proof the proliferation of concealed weapons is deterring lawbreakers. Evidence is largely anecdotal – such as the Lansing case. The victim chose not to be interviewed until the case is resolved. He also fears a possible break-in from those who know he has a gun. But 70 pages of police records obtained through the Freedom of Information Act shed light into the reasons some people carry, and what can happen. ‘I wasn’t sure if it was a knife’ The 17-year-old in gym shorts approached his target. The 28-year-old Lansing man was waiting for his daughter at her school-bus stop at REO Road and Ballard Street. It was May 29, and a nice day. Temperatures would reach 79 degrees. It was partly cloudy, fairly gusty. The teen had two friends nearby - dropped off by a third friend in a van after they scouted their target. They knew what Marvell Weaver was going to do. They had discussed it. Weaver approached his victim from behind, a black KL-800 Type Stun Gun in his pocket. It is capable of generating 1.8 million volts. He passed him and turned back, pressed the stun gun into the victim’s side. Again and again, and … nothing. It had fired earlier when testing it, he would later tell police. “The button was like stuck down … or something. I don’t know what caused it not to work,” according to a transcript of Weaver’s statement. ‘Please don’t kill me’ The intended victim moved quickly, pulling his stainless steel .40-caliber Smith and Wesson. It had a full 10-round magazine, and was worth about $900 police estimated. He shot Weaver in his buttocks as the teen turned to flee. “It happened so fast I wasn’t sure. I just know something was shoved into my side. I wasn’t sure if it was a knife, if it was anything,” he told police. Weaver ran, sat down across the street, his leg going numb, bleeding. Pleading. “‘I’m sorry, please don’t kill me, I don’t know why I did that, I’m high you know, I just wanna go home,’” the teen told the man who had just shot him. The man called 911. He told the dispatcher the teen was "currently wounded" and that he was a concealed pistol holder. "Did you shoot him?" the dispatcher asks, sounding incredulous. A witness told police the man stayed by the teen and appeared supportive and non-threatening. The teen was hospitalized with a non-life threatening injury. At first, Weaver said he merely removed the stun gun from his pocket to look at it and the man shot him. He later confessed to the attack, records show. Police asked for an attempted robbery warrant. The prosecutor authorized a lesser charge, illegal possession of a stun gun, a maximum two-year felony. A plea-bargain conference was scheduled for last Wednesday, but postponed until Sept. 4. The teen is free on bond. Ingham County Chief Assistant Prosecutor Lisa McCormick said there was no evidence to prove Weaver intended to rob the victim. She also said an aggravated assault charge would not stick because it requires the victim to be seriously injured. The felony stun-gun charge is more serious than simple assault, a 90-day misdemeanor, McCormick added. On a potential plea deal for Weaver, she would only offer, “There’s been some discussion with the defense attorney, but nothing has been finalized.” Whatever the outcome, the teen has written a letter apologizing to his victim. “I don’t blame you for what you did. You were only trying to protect yourself. I only wish I could go back to change it to were (sic) I never did it.” “Im very sorry,” he closes at the letter’s end. The hand-scrawled note is written on one-page of lined binder paper. The printed apology is at least five times larger than the rest of the words.

Is this "game" a black event as the videos were all of young black doing this to people who were non blacks? More Obama boyz having fun? I guess their grandma ain't rasing them right.

There is a discussion of this topic on another vehicle specific web site that I frequent, primarily for technical advice. By and large, the membership consists of genuine 1%'ers and I would venture to guess, an ample spattering of full patch guys. This is a no holds barred kind of place.

Even though political discussion is banned there, and with good reason, I can tell you that the rumblings there are not pretty. There is a rapidly growing tide of discontent that most will never hear, in more polite society.

quote Originally posted by williegoat: There is a discussion of this topic on another vehicle specific web site that I frequent, primarily for technical advice. By and large, the membership consists of genuine 1%'ers and I would venture to guess, an ample spattering of full patch guys. This is a no holds barred kind of place. Even though political discussion is banned there, and with good reason, I can tell you that the rumblings there are not pretty. There is a rapidly growing tide of discontent that most will never hear, in more polite society.

For a second I thought you mentioned a forum that I'm on that fits that description, but I couldn't find any thread on it there

quote Originally posted by nitroheadz28: For a second I thought you mentioned a forum that I'm on that fits that description, but I couldn't find any thread on it there

It is in the "Rider's Lounge" section, and has already grown to seven pages, since yesterday evening.
I know of one other member here, who is also a member there. What do you ride, or does the picture include a broom?

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Ghetto culture is what breeds this.

This knockout game has been around since the 80's. I remember in the early 90's, the ghetto kids were going around in what they called "Jacking for hats", where they did the same as the knockout, which they targeted innocent people who were wearing hats and they would one punch them and take the hat as a prize.

The real reason they do this is to prove to their peers that they are "hard", meaning they have courage and physical strength. When one of these thugs knockout or jack somebody they move up the hierarchy in ghetto culture, so it is encouraged and celebrated in ghetto culture.

And all of you Muslim hating Christians who fear Muslims on the other side of the world? We have worse problems to worry about.

The ghetto culture is near you and more dangerous.

quote Originally posted by williegoat: It is in the "Rider's Lounge" section, and has already grown to seven pages, since yesterday evening. I know of one other member here, who is also a member there. What do you ride, or does the picture include a broom?

I was way off . Don't ride yet but I plan on picking up a Ninja 250/500, GS500E, or even SV650 for next season

Its going to be all fun and games until someone pulls it on a person with a CCW... than Obama might say that kid could have been his son to

I think a great counter-game would be "Bullet Sponge"!

How many 9mm rounds can these hoodrats absorb?

quote Originally posted by xquaid: I think a great counter-game would be "Bullet Sponge"! How many 9mm rounds can these hoodrats absorb?

They like their games.

Well we like games too.

Someday when the cops and the pussifieds get completely over run their will be some games.
I believe old timers call these sort of things a "reckoning"


I get to pick who is on my team.

http://www.wnd.com/2013/08/...-victim-shoots-back/
edit, same story as posted above, didnt see it. different source.

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quote Originally posted by pontiackid86: Its going to be all fun and games until someone pulls it on a person with a CCW... than Obama might say that kid could have been his son to

They attack "soft" targets. Old women. Middle-aged guys minding their own business.

They are cowards.

I can't wait till they try it on the wrong person, or when the right person is there when they assault someone.

quote Originally posted by Old Lar: Is this "game" a black event as the videos were all of young black doing this to people who were non blacks? More Obama boyz having fun? I guess their grandma ain't rasing them right.

Just wondering why every time a black person does anything wrong you and other call him one of Obama's boys? What affiliation (other than the color of their skin) do they have with Obama? It just seems racist to me...

quote Originally posted by TheDigitalAlchemist: They attack "soft" targets. Old women. Middle-aged guys minding their own business. They are cowards. I can't wait till they try it on the wrong person, or when the right person is there when they assault someone.

If it was a white guy retaliating of the black, the media would blast the white guy as a racist and the Rev Sharpton would want an investigation as to why the white guy isn't procecuted and in jail. Just like Trevor being like an Obama son , if he had a son.

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Sadly, Knockout is a game made popular by the black community some time ago. See this article from American Thinker from two years ago detailing this game played by Obama's sons.

quote A Violent Racist Game Claims More Victims By John T. Bennett One man was stomped to death and another man nearly killed in a racist amusement called the "knock-out game," currently being played by black teenagers. The victims were both white, and that fact needs to be raised in our national conversation about race. PC disclaimer: only a tiny fraction of blacks play this game, and the vast majority of blacks do not condone violence of any kind. With that established, consider the facts: Half-brothers Elliott T. Murphy, 18, and Deonta "Fuss" Johnson, 16, were recently convicted of first-degree murder and attempted first-degree murder in the heinous stomping death of 61-year-old Jerry Newingham and the stomping attack of 46-year-old Kevin S. Wilson. The two convicted were part of a group of 9 blacks. Their two victims were white. The brutal murder took place in Decatur, IL, a place commonly known as "a classic Midwest USA small city." They group was playing the "knock-out game." The game is as cruel and ignorant as it sounds. The only rule is to pick a victim and try to knock them out. The group of black teens in Decatur discussed playing the game, before going out and finding a random victim for their unprovoked attack. They called it the "point 'em out, knock 'em out" game. After being let out of school, the teens began their fun. They "randomly" selected a white person to play along. The teens punched, kicked, and then jumped on and stomped their first victim, Mr. Newingham. He never regained consciousness after being mauled by the feral teens. Seventy minutes later, the group beat up Kevin Wilson, who also just happened to be white. One witness said he saw Murphy jump on Wilson's head -- jumping with both feet. That witness said that Wilson was not even moving during and after the attack. Another witness, a 14-year-old girl, told a detective, "They were jumping on him like he was a trampoline, basically." This is not the first time the game has been played. Such attacks have been reported in Illinois, Massachusetts, Missouri, and New Jersey. It was played on a large scale in Wisconsin, with as many as 18 suspects arrested for involvement. Students in Chicago have produced a community service movie speaking out against the game. The "game" is not always lethal, but sometimes it is. In St. Louis earlier this year, a 72-year-old man named Hoang Nguyen was walking with his wife, Yen, when four "young people" approached them. One first grabbed Hoang and moved his face to the side to make a "clear target for his fist," recalled his wife. Nguyen was punched so hard that he fell to the ground and struck his head. Then the attacker turned on Nguyen's 59-year-old wife, punching her so hard that she suffered a broken eye socket. She could only watch as her husband was then kicked repeatedly by another one of the misunderstood youth. Hoang succumbed to his injuries later that day. A young black male, 18 years old, is charged with first-degree murder in that attack. In general, the knockout game involves "unprovoked attacks on innocent bystanders," according to police who have had to deal with it. A retired police officer explains, "Normally it was a group of black males, one of which would strike [the victim] as hard as he could in the face, attempting to knock him out with one punch." The victims are typically not robbed, but simply punched with no provocation. One would be hard-pressed to find an example of whites playing this "game." Given the racial make-up of victims and attackers in this trend of crime, it makes sense to ask whether there is a racial motive involved. Between the flash mobs and the knock-out game, we have very good reasons to change the way we think about racism in America. Why is the racial make-up of these crimes the way it is? Is it because non-blacks are more attractive as victims? If so, then it would be accurate to say that non-blacks are being targeted. Maybe they're not being targeted out of racial animosity, but surely any form of racial selection is by definition a racial problem. Are the victims non-black because non-blacks will have more to steal? That explanation makes sense when there is a robbery, but many times there is not. One thing is certain: if the races were switched, this game -- combined with the flash mobs -- would be considered a national crisis. There would be a chorus of wailing and gnashing anguish the likes of which hasn't been seen in over fifty years. We would all be made to confess that racism has reemerged. The attacks would be treated as a reflection of a massive, looming problem. We would be talking about our nation's rotten, racist soul if whites were playing this game. Instead, the races are reversed, and there is resolute silence about the racial aspect of these attacks. Of course, not all interracial crimes are necessarily racial, and not all racial crimes are hate crimes. When a 68-year-old white woman named Sally Katona-King was pushed down a flight of steps and killed at a Chicago train station by a black teen named Prince Watson, that was not necessarily a racial crime. Watson had just robbed a woman at the train stop. As he was running away, he tried to jump over the 68-year-old woman, but instead knocked her down. There is nothing clearly racial about that, in terms of motive or intent to target the victim because of her race. In contrast, a group of young whites decided that they wanted to "go f**k with some n*****s," then later killed a black man named James Craig Anderson. That will almost certainly be found a hate crime, and rightly so. But that attack earned a special on CNN, while violence against non-blacks is not treated with the same level of attention, demonstrating a racial double standard that is quite frankly sinister. That double standard is seen most clearly in the scant coverage of the Wichita Massacre, and the Christian-Newsome killings. Few people even know the horror committed by blacks against whites in those killings. Of course, not every group has a habit of framing everything that happens in life in racial terms. Not every group sees its interests in racial terms, and perhaps we should be grateful for that. But if we're going to talk about the level of racism in America, we must make note of the disproportionate racial violence occurring. Department of Justice statistics show that 33% of white murder victims are killed by a non-white, while only 8% of black murder victims are killed by a non-black. Greater disparities exist in violent crimes and robbery (1). Considering the population distribution, those disparities should trouble all of us, regardless of race. While schools, politicians, and activists produce a steady drumbeat of criticism about white racism or "hate," there is much happening right in front of us that cancels out that narrative. When 85-year-old Yoko Cullen of Belleville, IL, was burned alive in the trunk of her car by three black carjackers, race probably was a factor. Those charged in her murder first abducted and carjacked her. But why did they choose her, of all people? Police say that she was probably an "easy target." Funny -- that's exactly what a black teen in Wisconsin said when he was asked why he and hundreds of other blacks randomly beat whites at the state fair this month. Read more: http://www.americanthinker....s.html#ixzz2lDjGiBnC Follow us: @AmericanThinker on Twitter | AmericanThinker on Facebook

Like Old Lars has said, if the tables were turned and it was Whitey attacking the poor blacks, there would be morale outrage from guys like Doni and Obama alike. As it is just whitey getting his "whats deserved" though, you can be rest assured the black community will remain silent as the attacks continue, just like the Muslims who offer no condemnation of the terrorist attacks of their brothers.

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quote Originally posted by Purple86GT: Just wondering why every time a black person does anything wrong you and other call him one of Obama's boys? What affiliation (other than the color of their skin) do they have with Obama? It just seems racist to me...

Maybe because Barack Obama has never stood up and said, " Violence by young blacks against any member of society is wrong, and black society has a responsibility to do a better job of setting standards for young black men. We are not black and white; we are human beings, and need to treat each other as human beings. " Barack Obama has proven to be a President who makes up the law as he see fit. When he does not speak out for respect for the law he encourages lawlessness. So the lawless are easily Obama's boys. Racist? Hardly. In line with the facts? Yes.

BTW, people like you who take any occasion to throw around the term racist make it plain you have no respect for serious discourse. When you can show where a member of our little corner of the universe has deliberately stood in the way of anyone non-white improving or advancing himself, then come back and talk about racism. Until then you are simply calling names to make yourself feel better about not being connected to facts.

quote Originally posted by heybjorn: Maybe because Barack Obama has never stood up and said, " Violence by young blacks against any member of society is wrong, and black society has a responsibility to do a better job of setting standards for young black men. We are not black and white; we are human beings, and need to treat each other as human beings. " Barack Obama has proven to be a President who makes up the law as he see fit. When he does not speak out for respect for the law he encourages lawlessness. So the lawless are easily Obama's boys. Racist? Hardly. In line with the facts? Yes. BTW, people like you who take any occasion to throw around the term racist make it plain you have no respect for serious discourse. When you can show where a member of our little corner of the universe has deliberately stood in the way of anyone non-white improving or advancing himself, then come back and talk about racism. Until then you are simply calling names to make yourself feel better about not being connected to facts.

None of what you said makes any sense. Just because your current President is black, he should take a different stance on crimes involving black people?

And then, because I said something sounds racist (and calling a random black guy who just committed a crime on of Obama’s boys sure does sound racist) I’m the one who is not connected to the facts? So when Bush was in power, all the white people committing crimes were the Bush boys? Well I guess I’m one confused white guy…

quote Originally posted by Purple86GT: None of what you said makes any sense. Just because your current President is black, he should take a different stance on crimes involving black people?

No. He should take a stance on violent crime, period. But this knockout game is primarily a black on white crime, and he does not speak out on the lawlessness, nor on the effect on race relations. He refuses to take stand, thereby giving his approval. So the case for the Obama boys appellation can be understood.

quote And then, because I said something sounds racist (and calling a random black guy who just committed a crime on of Obama’s boys sure does sound racist) I’m the one who is not connected to the facts?

Evidently you didn't read what I wrote about what constitutes racism.

quote Originally posted by heybjorn: Evidently you didn't read what I wrote about what constitutes racism.

You mean this?

quote Originally posted by heybjorn: When you can show where a member of our little corner of the universe has deliberately stood in the way of anyone non-white improving or advancing himself, then come back and talk about racism. Until then you are simply calling names to make yourself feel better about not being connected to facts.

It is ALL only black kids doing it. And this is how they prove they are "hard?" By punching someone who doesn't even see them coming? I don't live in the nicest neighborhood in South Florida but this isn't going to be a problem here because everyone has guns. Especially in Broward County.