wish I had thought of the word "Talibangelical"
as it is a perfect description of sick ricks voters program

discuss

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Question wonder and be wierd
are you kind?

wish I had thought of the word "raybarbituates"
as it is a perfect description of rayb's posts

discuss

quote Originally posted by ray b: wish I had thought of the word "Talibangelical" discuss

That is just about the perfect word for you to use from now on!


I won't agree with you that it is valid, but I will enjoy your viewpoint, as always.

ok how is the tali-ban really different from the "Talibangelical" who vote for sick rick ?

I see far more common points then real differences

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Question wonder and be wierd
are you kind?

quote Originally posted by ray b: wish I had thought of the word "Talibangelical" as it is a perfect description of sick ricks voters program discuss

just more of the racist crap from the raybigot

... When ray starts using people's proper names, I'll consider his points.

quote Originally posted by ray b: I see far more common points then real differences

I don't agree. I really dislike both evangelical Christians (or radical Catholics) and their views and radical Muslims and their views but the choice of means that the Taliban use don't compare to Mr. Santorum.

quote Originally posted by skuzzbomer: ... When ray starts using people's proper names, I'll consider his points.

raydalf bitler is trying to keep the hate alive. He is more about getting people all fired up than facts. I can see him laughing as he types insults, thinking that he is offending people that have diferent views. He is the perfect example of a liberal, it is only OK to belive what he thinks as long as you dont hold him to his own standards that he puts on others.

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quote Originally posted by Rickady88GT: He is the perfect example of a liberal,

That's an unqualified remark. I would go for a liberal over here, why am I not the "perfect example"?

quote Originally posted by ray b: ok how is the tali-ban really different from the "Talibangelical" who vote for sick rick ? I see far more common points then real differences

When was the last time an evengelical threw acid in their wife's face? Or killed their daughter for disgracing the family name? Or destroyed another religion's land marks because they were idols? Or stoned a woman to death for adultry after she was raped? Or beheaded anyone for being an infidel?

quote Originally posted by yellowstone: That's an unqualified remark. I would go for a liberal over here, why am I not the "perfect example"?

I dont know you. I know what you have done with your car, I have to give you credit for it, it is a great example of a Fiero. But before I "judge you" I will need to see more of your opinions. That is why I asked for a clearification on you opinion.

Let me put it this way, I know some very good people that are liberal and I respect how they convay opinions. BUT I dont respect the liberal point of view. I give back to raybigot what he gives out. Wise and respectfull liberals get my respect along with a counter point of view.

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/www.inbeforetrashcan.com

joke not a real site

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It's not ray enough. It should be taliBANgelical.
Maybe talibanGELical?

DIScuss.

quote Originally posted by Formula88: ....

quote Originally posted by Rickady88GT: I dont know you. I know what you have done with your car, I have to give you credit for it, it is a great example of a Fiero. But before I "judge you" I will need to see more of your opinions. That is why I asked for a clearification on you opinion. Let me put it this way, I know some very good people that are liberal and I respect how they convay opinions. BUT I dont respect the liberal point of view. I give back to raybigot what he gives out. Wise and respectfull liberals get my respect along with a counter point of view.

That wasn't my point. I just asked you why ray is the "perfect example" (and not me, for example) when you don't like how he expresses his "liberal" point of view. You expand your dislike of him to all "liberals" which would then include me. That's what I didn't like about your post and therefore labeled it unqualified.

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quote Originally posted by yellowstone: That wasn't my point. I just asked you why ray is the "perfect example" (and not me, for example) when you don't like how he expresses his "liberal" point of view. You expand your dislike of him to all "liberals" which would then include me. That's what I didn't like about your post and therefore labeled it unqualified.

Not true, Ray is not liberal. Ray is just anti establishment. Essentially, a liberal is one who promotes the idea that we all have a responsibility to others before ourselves. A conservative beleives we have a responsibility to ourselves before others. Ray is just a hate monger and it does not matter what the topic is.

quote Originally posted by yellowstone: You can find examples of such things in the Christian holy book and Christians have done all of the above in the name of their god. But I agree with you (as I've said above) that the Taliban as MUCH worse than any evangelical Christian nowadays and putting them on the same level is completely nonsensical.

The Bible has stories of both the good and bad. Most of the things cited by people that attack the Bible are recounts of the history of the Israelites. It gives many and often bloody examples of evil acts committed by people both believers and non-believers. That does not mean that it is an endorsement of those evil acts. An example is King David who sent one of his men off to battle to die so he could take his wife. That was an example of someone as great as a king chosen by God could sin and fall. It was in no way an endorcement of murder and adultry.

This is a tangent. Ray B is speaking specifically about evangelicals and the Taliban of today. An understanding of the Bible is a deep subject that can hardly be touched in this limited media.

If that is so it makes Rickady's statement even more unqualified.

quote Originally posted by Toddster: Not true, Ray is not liberal. Ray is just anti establishment. Essentially, a liberal is one who promotes the idea that we all have a responsibility to others before ourselves. A conservative beleives we have a responsibility to ourselves before others. Ray is just a hate monger and it does not matter what the topic is.

quote Originally posted by yellowstone: If that is so it makes Rickady's statement even more unqualified.

Maybe, maybe not, but you haven't disputed it.

quote Originally posted by Rickady88GT: just more of the racist crap from the raybigot

Neither evangelicals nor the taliban are a race. You really do live in bizzaro world, don't you?

quote Originally posted by yellowstone: You can find examples of such things in the Christian holy book and Christians have done all of the above in the name of their god.

Certainly you can.

A couple of major issues. How many years to you have to go back to find "Christians" doing "all of the above" in the name of their god, (answer--HUNDREDS of years), versus how many DAYS you have to go back to find Taliban members doing them.

And if someone does something horrendous in the name of Christianity, what is the response of the vast majority of self-proclaimed Christians TOWARD that horrendous act.
Compare that response to the Taliban's response.


You are arriving later to this party, so what you probably don't know is how many times these "minor distinctions" have been pointed out to rayb, and he just ignores them and continues comparing the Taliban to Christians. You may be liberal, and as you said, not agree with a lot of what is promoted in the name of Christianity, but YOU don't have any problem making those distinctions.
Regardless, it is still fun to hear different viewpoints and ideas, and I like to hear what rayb has going on. That way I get the enjoyment, but don't let it get under my skin.

quote Originally posted by yellowstone: That wasn't my point. I just asked you why ray is the "perfect example" (and not me, for example) when you don't like how he expresses his "liberal" point of view. You expand your dislike of him to all "liberals" which would then include me. That's what I didn't like about your post and therefore labeled it unqualified.

I do not dislike ray b (I dont even know him) or any other liberal. I dislike liberalism and the way ray b seems to go out of his way to offend people. Like I said, I know and talk to liberals on a regular basis. I have respect for those that can speak well, BTW I dont think I can speak all that well so I do not use myself as a standard. I just know that others are very good at public relations, a skill I wish I had.

quote Originally posted by Doug85GT: The Bible has stories of both the good and bad. Most of the things cited by people that attack the Bible are recounts of the history of the Israelites. It gives many and often bloody examples of evil acts committed by people both believers and non-believers.

I disagree very much and I have read the books but you're right, this is going to far here and now.

quote Originally posted by Doug85GT:This is a tangent. Ray B is speaking specifically about evangelicals and the Taliban of today.

Here I agree with you wholeheartedly, as I've posted before.

quote Originally posted by tbone42: Neither evangelicals nor the taliban are a race. You really do live in bizzaro world, don't you?

Maybe Rickady has heard the term "racist" used so much in the past 4 years anytime someone has criticized President Obama's policies, the meaning of the word has become a general insult.

Kinda like how high schools complaining about homework will call it "gay"

quote Originally posted by frontal lobe: I like to hear what rayb has going on. That way I get the enjoyment, but don't let it get under my skin.

You're a sick man Frontal lobe... Enjoyment?

j/k

I must say I also like to have differing opinions on the forum.

quote Originally posted by frontal lobe: Certainly you can. A couple of major issues. How many years to you have to go back to find "Christians" doing "all of the above" in the name of their god, (answer--HUNDREDS of years), versus how many DAYS you have to go back to find Taliban members doing them. And if someone does something horrendous in the name of Christianity, what is the response of the vast majority of self-proclaimed Christians TOWARD that horrendous act. Compare that response to the Taliban's response.

Hey, I agree with you. Please read my posts above.

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quote Originally posted by 1988holleyformula: Maybe Rickady has heard the term "racist" used so much in the past 4 years anytime someone has criticized President Obama's policies, the meaning of the word has become a general insult.

Huh thats funny, I haven't... but I sure have heard a lot of his detractors make an issue out of it to have something to complain about. Regardless, stoopid is as Ricky does.

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quote Originally posted by tbone42: ...Regardless, stoopid is as Ricky does.

Whats with the disrespect? You two have a history?

quote Originally posted by 2.5: Whats with the disrespect? You two have a history?

Yup. Just returning the favor, since he used the same description of me in a past thread. Respect is earned, and he has already shown disrespect to me and others here several times in the past.. why should I give it to him anymore? When ole' Rick stops using insults on people just for disagreeing with his viewpoints, he will get respect in return. Until then telling someone they are "stupid and fundamentally wrong" won't earn brownie points with anyone.

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quote Originally posted by Rickady88GT: just more of the racist crap from the raybigot

I did not know nut-believers were a race

now the tali-ban is white aryan mostly

so how do I get a bigot title

my reasons for disliking power grabs from the fairytalelanders
is based on a long history of bad to horrible real results of church/state governments

simple test name one good government run by a cult any cult ever anywhere
remember I define all religions as cults [some are just bigger or older]
the less religion in a government the better it governs

quote Originally posted by yellowstone: I disagree very much and I have read the books but you're right, this is going to far here and now.

I never said you have not read the Bible. Many of the people that attack it have read it.

Your intrepretation of what the Bible says is completely different from what today's Christians and Jews understand. Frankly, your interpretation is irrelavant. The Christians and Jews that believe in the Bible and follow it are living a life that does not fit into your intrepretation of the Bible.

The attackers of the Bible regularly throw up these strawman arguments. The claim a passage in the Bible means something terrible. Then when someone that actually follows the Bible says otherwise they claim the believer is wrong and that their twisted interpretation is right.

You can keep your interpretation of the Bible. No one believes it nor follows it today, not even you.

quote Originally posted by ray b: remember I define all religions as cults [some are just bigger or older] the less religion in a government the better it governs

I agree with you on that one.

quote Originally posted by yellowstone: Most certainly not! I don't believe in fairy tales of any kind.

Exactly, which is why your interpretation of the Bible is irrelavant.

Yellowstone, Ray is not the perfect example of a liberal, and I don't understand why nobody seems to be understanding your posts.

quote Originally posted by yellowstone: Hey, I agree with you. Please read my posts above.

I didn't make myself clear. I did read your posts and was agreeing with you!


rayb, I dislike power grabs from secular humanists. Based on a long history of bad to horrible real results of governments dominated by those kinds of people.


"the less religion in a government the better it governs"


Let's try a VERY recent history lesson.


Wisconsin just had conservatives vote in Governor Walker. Some of that was due to the tea party. Not nearly 100%, but many of the tea party, and the conservatives would call themselves Christians. Their political gatherings were universally peaceful, polite, respectful, clean.

The liberals didn't like it. They are much less likely to be Christian, and would have a much higher percentage of secular humanists, atheists, and other non-Christian ideologies. Guess what their political gatherings were like? They destroyed the property around the capitol to the tune of $5 million dollars. They were physically abusive to counter protestors. One poured beer on a legislator in a restaurant. They were incredibly verbally abusive and nasty.


You tell me. Which group would govern better? Which would you rather be around? Which group used Taliban tactics?


Your country over the years has been greatly influenced in positive ways within government by fairytalelanders living and voting their values within that government. They didn't try to "power grab" the government. But they had every right to vote and promote and express their values just like a secular humanist would (and does).


You apparently would have hated living in the late 1700's and early 1800's U.S. because a LOT of those guys were fairytalelanders. Yet they were able to get a pretty great country going.

quote Originally posted by Doug85GT: Exactly, which is why your interpretation of the Bible is irrelavant.

To you maybe, not to me.

quote Originally posted by yellowstone: To you maybe, not to me.

That is fine. You are entitled to your opinion.

I don't believe in the Koran. No matter how many times I read it, my opinion of it is meaningless to anyone that believes in it. To a practicing Muslim, my interpretation of their traditions, rules and history is irrelavant.

It would be folly for me to argue with a believing Muslim that the Koran means something different from what they believe it means.

You arguing the meaning of the Bible from an atheist perspective is just as irrelavant.

quote Originally posted by tbone42: Neither evangelicals nor the taliban are a race. You really do live in bizzaro world, don't you?

Yes I do live in a world where people defend hate mongers like ray b.

Besides, it is not me that accuses people who disagree with "types or diferences of religions" of discrimination, it is more often liberals.
Discrimination is hate, racism is hate, to me it is all the same, liberals like ray b seem to think it is OK for him to do these things but others can not. And in this bizzaro world we all live in, YOU defend him.