Your predictions for the world of 2020?
Gasoline, war, science, space, transvestites, bubblegum, anything you want to predict.

We'll comeback here in 2020 and take a look to see who was close.

quote Originally posted by Boondawg: Your predictions for the world of 2020? Gasoline, war, science, space, transvestites, bubblegum, anything you want to predict. We'll comeback here in 2020 and take a look to see who was close.

I think that the benegeserit son will come like in the prohpecy, and eliminate the gas trade, and we will no longer be repressed by oil...

Sorry, just watched Dune....


I think things will be better. I truly believe. truly... that America's best times are ahead, not behind us. We are in a recession, but if we can retain the values which made America great (which I believe we can), we can continue to prosper. America is NOT like any other country, and every other country is UNLIKE America. America is made up of the best, of the best, of the best. I love our Canadian friends, but I believe they are an Also-Ran. Just look at the overhead night picture of the globe, and you'll see that all the prosperity in Canada is right on the border of America. What makes Canada great is that they have adopted the same philosophy that America created. What makes America great... what makes those of us who are American proud to be American, isn't because we believe our country is simply "more awesome"... what makes America great is that the philosophy of America is based on the principles of self-government. The American way is exemplified by the American dream. While all other revolutions in other countries typically lead to corrupt governments, America turned into an Amazing success where each party and administration reliquishes governance to the next duly elected administration.

I truly believe that America will continue to be the shining light in the sea, the air, and the mountains, and that other countries will continue to adopt our philosophy. To keep this dream alive, requires constant struggle, and a constant fight (as we see almost every day in the news). We must continue in each successive generation to remember the gioal of our framers, and remember the important words from JFK. "Ask not what your country can do for you, ask what YOU can do for your country..."

Lop!

An acronym that would be used to describe what one is doing to an electric vehicle or needs to do with an electric vehicle or what we would call the stations for which we need to go to do to an electric vehicle.

LOP means; Load on Power.

I'm showing low on my dash, so I need to lop this car soon.

I'm going to the Lop Station to get some lop and a Pepsi

I'm getting some lop right now, let me call you back in a minute

Lop basically will replace the word Gas when referring to electric vehicles and will replace the word 'charging' as well.

quote Originally posted by 82-T/A [At Work]: I think that the benegeserit son will come like in the prohpecy, and eliminate the gas trade, and we will no longer be repressed by oil...not what your country can do for you, ask what YOU can do for your country..."

If there's no oil, or the global warmers get their way, there won't be much need for this forum given that it's about a ICE-powered car.

quote Originally posted by 82-T/A [At Work]: I think that the benegeserit son will come like in the prohpecy, and eliminate the gas trade, and we will no longer be repressed by oil... Sorry, just watched Dune.... I think things will be better. I truly believe. truly... that America's best times are ahead, not behind us. We are in a recession, but if we can retain the values which made America great (which I believe we can), we can continue to prosper. America is NOT like any other country, and every other country is UNLIKE America. America is made up of the best, of the best, of the best. I love our Canadian friends, but I believe they are an Also-Ran. Just look at the overhead night picture of the globe, and you'll see that all the prosperity in Canada is right on the border of America. What makes Canada great is that they have adopted the same philosophy that America created. What makes America great... what makes those of us who are American proud to be American, isn't because we believe our country is simply "more awesome"... what makes America great is that the philosophy of America is based on the principles of self-government. The American way is exemplified by the American dream. While all other revolutions in other countries typically lead to corrupt governments, America turned into an Amazing success where each party and administration reliquishes governance to the next duly elected administration. I truly believe that America will continue to be the shining light in the sea, the air, and the mountains, and that other countries will continue to adopt our philosophy. To keep this dream alive, requires constant struggle, and a constant fight (as we see almost every day in the news). We must continue in each successive generation to remember the gioal of our framers, and remember the important words from JFK. "Ask not what your country can do for you, ask what YOU can do for your country..."

How old are you?

I think that each person's perspective is going to be based somewhat upon their age. (I know that Boonie is a few years younger than I am.)
I'm 54.

I believe that we've lost out way. I believe that the United States was a noble experiment that is veering dangerously off the path.
The best case scenario that I see is probably no better than it is now. Moderately socialist with a lot of lip service to "smaller government" and "the constitution". I don't think it will get better.

The only thing that will change this gradual slide is outright rebellion against the powers that be.
The major problem with that is that nature abhors a vacuum, and all of the opportunists and special interests (or, more accurately, self interests) will all by vying for power.
It'll be ugly. Very ugly.

But I don't see a rebellion happening. Most of us are just too complacent to give enough of a damn to change anything.

I sincerely hope that I'm wrong. About everything.

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I hope I'm not still wasting all my time on PFF!

If I'm here commenting in 2020, someone needs to ban me so I can go do something away from the computer

quote Originally posted by fierobear: If there's no oil, or the global warmers get their way, there won't be much need for this forum given that it's about a ICE-powered car.

No Oil? In 8 and half years??? Not a chance, oil companies are way too powerful to allow any change that quickly, plus a myriad of other reasons as to why a switch to greener technologies will be slow in coming more popular.

The rise of China and India will be one of the things I will be most wary of and interested in seeing.

Advancement of technology is always something that is facsinating as well.

quote Originally posted by Raydar: How old are you? I think that each person's perspective is going to be based somewhat upon their age. (I know that Boonie is a few years younger than I am.) I'm 54. I believe that we've lost out way. I believe that the United States was a noble experiment that is veering dangerously off the path. The best case scenario that I see is probably no better than it is now. Moderately socialist with a lot of lip service to "smaller government" and "the constitution". I don't think it will get better. The only thing that will change this gradual slide is outright rebellion against the powers that be. The major problem with that is that nature abhors a vacuum, and all of the opportunists and special interests (or, more accurately, self interests) will all by vying for power. It'll be ugly. Very ugly. But I don't see a rebellion happening. Most of us are just too complacent to give enough of a damn to change anything. I sincerely hope that I'm wrong. About everything.

I'm in my early to mid 30s.

I'm looking at history in a whole, not simply what I've been exposed to. We've been here before, we absolutely have. We've been worse off, and perhaps at that time, the world seemed over to them as well. I am eternally an optimist... it's both my strength, and perhaps also a major fault. During the great depression, we did all of this socialist crap back then too, and the US suffered, for a LONG, LONG time. But we recovered. During the 50s, the things the military did totally pale in comparison to what we do now. You think our civil rights, and constitutional rights are being violated now? How about how the US simply grabbed all the Japanese and put them into interrment camps, or how we gassed kids on the side-walk of our suburbs with the guise of mosquito spraying.

The US Civil War, the New Deal, etc... we've been through significantly worse things here in America... we overcame those, and we ABSOLUTELY will overcome this. What we CANNOT do, is "accept" the idea that things are over, and that we are doomed to increasing irrevelance.

What I do know about people who get older, is that they often stop caring, or being concerned. My father has a crazy Dutch accent, and has been a General Manager of hotels his entire career. He is used to bossing people around, and therefore has developed a very commanding attitude. People automatically think he's a former NAZI commander, but anyone who knows the old Dutch, knows that they hate Germans. When he asks unassuming people at counters, stores, etc... he asks them with a very commanding, and very aggressive tone. He just doesn't care. Old people don't care anymore when they do things that would otherwise be wrong... cruising through stop signs, yelling at whippersnappers, and generally being grouchy. I was with my dad on the subway the other day, and he walked through the emergency exit between the subway cars, even though he could clearly see that it said "Emergency Exit Only." Old people stop caring, and that's not good.

The only problem with the youth today is that they don't understand. The older generation has prevented them from learning. It's hard to undo socialist teachings. (See Greece)

We need old people now more than ever to stop NOT caring anymore, not give up, and to do everything they can to teach the youth that they SHOULD care, and that they MUST be proud of their country and that they NEED to get involved.

quote Originally posted by 82-T/A [At Work]: The older generation has prevented them from learning.

I am actually still teaching them.
The new Washington youth i'm meeting at work seem to be starving for the 'old style' of information that only someone who has been on the planet for 50+ years with no motive can give them.
And I tell them the real deal, not some the same old 'company lines' that elders tell the young to avoid themselves being 'unstructured' by the uncertainity of free thinking, so they just fall back on the comfort of using cynical indignation as an unbendable posistion of truth.

Avoid anything that starts with "In MY day".............our day is dead.
The future belongs to those that have yet to fugg up the past.
They'll get their chance, just like we did ours.

Hopefully with a little different thinking.

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Google is Skynet.
The cellular device is the mark of the beast. IE it can be used as ID and as a credit card. You will accept it willingly.
I will own more guns.

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What would Paladin do?

quote Originally posted by Boondawg: I am actually still teaching them. The new Washington youth i'm meeting at work seem to be starving for the 'old style' of information that only someone who has been on the planet for 50+ years with no motive can give them. And I tell them the real deal, not some the same old 'company lines' that elders tell the young to avoid themselves being 'unstructured' by the uncertainity of free thinking, so they just fall back on the comfort of using cynical indignation as an unbendable posistion of truth. Avoid anything that starts with "In MY day".............our day is dead. The future belongs to those that have yet to fugg up the past. They'll get their chance, just like we did ours. Hopefully with a little different thinking.

Boonie... we're both brothers from a different mother... and I know you somewhat well, I believe. I know you like to be generally vauge in what you say because you enjoy the conversations that often ensue from them. But tell me what you really mean?

If I was reading your comments from a non-open mind, I would get the impression that you're suggesting that you are teaching the youth to be socialists. But I know that's not true. So what ARE you saying? Do you dare state matter-of-fact what sort of values or virtues you would like to impress upon the youth? Is it an impression upon moral subjectivism? I know this all too well, my great uncle Karl Jaspers went into great detail about this. So what are you saying? And if you don't mind, please refrain from using the Socratic method, I would prefer candor and flat-comments to even more vauge responses!


Love,

Todd

quote Originally posted by 82-T/A [At Work]: The only problem with the youth today is that they don't understand. The older generation has prevented them from learning ...

My comment certainly wasn't directed towards young people. It's all ages, IMHO.

Thanks for providing a different perspective.
Mine is probably a bit more cynical than most, due to the fact that I don't have kids. I don't have that "fresh faced" perspective to balance things.

I certainly hope that you are right.

Complete chaos and an ongoing breakdown of the 1st world nations.

In 2020, we will all be living in houses on pedestals high in the sky. Driving hovering, flying cars and working for one of the only two manufacturers in the world. Cogswell Cogs, or Spacely Sprockets.

Or

We will all be driving hybrid cars, gas prices will still grow, computers will still shrink and (lack of) energy will still be huge concern. Due to medical science, we will all be able to enjoy it a couple more years on average, before we die.

quote Originally posted by theBDub: I hope I'm not still wasting all my time on PFF! If I'm here commenting in 2020, someone needs to ban me so I can go do something away from the computer

Consider it done.

I see America going the way of Europe. Having lived in both places gives me the perspective to predict this. America is and will continue to gravitate toward a more socialist system of government and a "nanny state" philosophy. Taxes will go up (way up) to support this. By 2020 I'd say nearly half the U.S. population will be on benefits and the rest will be living under the burden of 50% taxes with a VAT on top of that. Asylum seekers will also contribute to the load of benefits seekers.

America used to be a place where, if you worked, you could make money and collect assets. It will become like Europe. A place where people can only hope to hold on to what they already have.

There are conservatives here who would prevent this if they could [but that] the state operated schools are teaching the next generation to embrace the socialist and liberal way. The U.K. is sinking under the weight of this type system. The National Health Service alone is likely to bankrupt the U.K. within the next 20 years. America will likely end up with some kind of government run health service as well.

I hope I'm wrong but I doubt it...............................

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quote Originally posted by tutnkmn: I see America going the way of Europe. Having lived in both places gives me the perspective to predict this. America is and will continue to gravitate toward a more socialist system of government and a "nanny state" philosophy. Taxes will go up (way up) to support this. By 2020 I'd say nearly half the U.S. population will be on benefits and the rest will be living under the burden of 50% taxes with a VAT on top of that. Asylum seekers will also contribute to the load of benefits seekers. America used to be a place where if you worked you could make money and collect assets. It will become like Europe. A place where people can only hope to hold on to what they already have. There are conservatives here who would prevent this if they could [but that] the state operated schools are teaching the next generation to embrace the socialist and liberal way. The U.K. is sinking under the weight of this kind of system. The National Health Service alone is likely to bankrupt the U.K. in the next 20 years. America will likely end up with some kind of government run health service as well. I hope I'm wrong but I doubt it...............................

Well put, tut. As far as half of Americans getting some kind of government assisstance, it looks like we're already there.

Some of us are actually trying to change things. For our efforts, we're called names, insulted, and so on, even by people who claim they are against big government (tbone). So, do people *really* want change, or do they only give it lip service?

• I predict that in the year 2020, I'll be 55 years of age.
  
• I predict that in the year 2020, someone will predict the world is going to end any minute now.
  
• I predict that in the year 2020, people are still complaining about the rating system on PFF.
  
• I predict that in the year 2020, the average price of a Big Mac across the United States will be about 40 yuan.
  
• I predict that in the year 2020, some people will still think the plane won't fly.
  
• I predict that in the year 2020, time travel will be possible. (Edit: missed it by that much!)
  
• I predict that in the year 2020, Steve Jobs will have successfully transferred his conscience to an iPad 11.
  
• I predict that in the year 2020, a new law will be passed making it legal to kill anyone trying to cross the Mexican border. This way, the Mexican government hopes to stop the huge inflow of illegal Americans.
  
• I predict that in the year 2020, his motto "Winning! Again!" successfully helps President Sheen getting re-elected.
  
• I predict that in the year 2020, Microsoft will finally release Windows 8 for the niche market that is the Windows PC.
  
• I predict that the year 2020, will be "the year of hindsight".

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quote Originally posted by 82-T/A [At Work]: Boonie... we're both brothers from a different mother... and I know you somewhat well, I believe. I know you like to be generally vauge in what you say because you enjoy the conversations that often ensue from them. But tell me what you really mean? If I was reading your comments from a non-open mind, I would get the impression that you're suggesting that you are teaching the youth to be socialists. But I know that's not true. So what ARE you saying? Do you dare state matter-of-fact what sort of values or virtues you would like to impress upon the youth? Is it an impression upon moral subjectivism? So what are you saying? And if you don't mind, please refrain from using the Socratic method, I would prefer candor and flat-comments to even more vauge responses!

I may oblige you at some later time today.

But I must say, I'm not so keen anymore to share my inner-most thoughts & feelings (<<<<some will see that statement as an opening to put forth as fact that I never have, which proves my following point for me) about subjects here as I have of late become more aware then ever of a kind of dark aggressive nature of some members here, who claim to be interested in others opinions & thoughts, but in fact are far more interested in finding fault or pounding round pegs into square holes.

The sharing of one to another should be a privilege for those chosen, a very vulnerable gift to the shared of insight into the sharer.
The process should be treated with, if not understanding, at least respect for the opportunity to see inside someone.
But you kill the dreamer when you demonize him his dream.
When a simple "I don't agree" (which is really insignificant, anyway, as the sharer is not asking for anything from the reciever except absorbsion) would suffice.

So what is the gain to share here?

The best that could be hoped for here is that someone might agree with you.
And that is just self-serving short-term gratifacation.
People are capible of so much more then that to each other.

But around here, I have given up on the hope of maybe the greatest thing that one person can do for another........and that is to get them to actually consider looking at something in another way or through another's eyes...... WITHOUT dragging all their staunch beliefs in there with them.

Let me think about it.

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quote Originally posted by tutnkmn: I see America going the way of Europe. Having lived in both places gives me the perspective to predict this. America is and will continue to gravitate toward a more socialist system of government and a "nanny state" philosophy. Taxes will go up (way up) to support this. By 2020 I'd say nearly half the U.S. population will be on benefits and the rest will be living under the burden of 50% taxes with a VAT on top of that. Asylum seekers will also contribute to the load of benefits seekers. America used to be a place where, if you worked, you could make money and collect assets. It will become like Europe. A place where people can only hope to hold on to what they already have. There are conservatives here who would prevent this if they could [but that] the state operated schools are teaching the next generation to embrace the socialist and liberal way. The U.K. is sinking under the weight of this type system. The National Health Service alone is likely to bankrupt the U.K. within the next 20 years. America will likely end up with some kind of government run health service as well. I hope I'm wrong but I doubt it...............................

sort of what i was saying, but you used bigger words ( its too hot for big words around here )

quote Originally posted by Boondawg: I may oblige you at some later time today. But I must say, I'm not so keen anymore to share my inner-most thoughts & feelings (<<<<some will see that statement as an opening to put forth as fact that I never have, which proves my following point for me) about subjects here as I have of late become more aware then ever of a kind of dark aggressive nature of some members here, who claim to be interested in others opinions & thoughts, but in fact are far more interested in finding fault or pounding round pegs into square holes. The sharing of one to another should be a privilege for those chosen, a very vulnerable gift to the shared of insight into the sharer. The process should be treated with, if not understanding, at least respect for the opportunity to see inside someone. But you kill the dreamer when you demonize him his dream. When a simple "I don't agree" (which is really insignificant, anyway, as the sharer is not asking for anything from the reciever except absorbsion) would suffice. So what is the gain to share here? The best that could be hoped for here is that someone might agree with you. And that is just self-serving short-term gratifacation. People are capible of so much more then that to each other. But around here, I have given up on the hope of maybe the greatest thing that one person can do for another........and that is to get them to actually consider looking at something in another way or through another's eyes...... WITHOUT dragging all their staunch beliefs in there with them. Let me think about it.

Damn Boonie, I have a 25" monitor, and that was still hard to read. Why did you make it so small?

Here's what I feel Boonie... if a man has convictions, and actually BELIEVES in his convictions, he has no problem sharing them. It's not for me to decide how someone should act, or how they should feel, but generally speaking, someone who is confident in themselves, has no issues with respect to their beliefs. They may not want to discuss them simply because they don't want to get into it, or deal with bantering back and forth, but if you're worried about sharing your views, that might mean that you're not alltogether too sure whether or not you actually believe what you believe?


More to the point though, what I'd like to know is... do you believe in a society where the government essentially takes control by giving a safety net to everyone, for every situation? Do you believe we should all live in simple harmony, with no one necessarily needing to achieve anything more or less than the guy next to them. A community where we focus more on eachother, rather than individual goals? If that is what you believe, I would like to hear it, and I would like to hear why you believe it and why you've come to that belief. I may not agree with that, but then again, if you really do believe that, then why would you care what I believe?

Being a human being is the desire for fleshing out differences, conversations, and similarities. I'm simply doing what is inherent in my humanity. I want to have a conversation with you. I cannot do this if you are vauge completely in all of your comments or opinions. By me disagreeing with your views (when or if you state them) does not mean necessarily that they are wrong, it just means that I disagree with them and that "I" think they're wrong.

So have at it Boonie... be strong, tell us what you think. I'll still give you a positive. RayB and Neptune both have positives from me...

I will finally be riding a motorcycle.

My Fiero will finally be finished
My Corvette will finally be finished
I hope the new owners like them

I will finish my book

quote Originally posted by 82-T/A [At Work]: More to the point though, what I'd like to know is... do you believe in a society where the government essentially takes control by giving a safety net to everyone, for every situation? Do you believe we should all live in simple harmony, with no one necessarily needing to achieve anything more or less than the guy next to them. A community where we focus more on eachother, rather than individual goals? If that is what you believe, I would like to hear it, and I would like to hear why you believe it and why you've come to that belief. I may not agree with that, but then again, if you really do believe that, then why would you care what I believe?

I would submit that unfortunately some with black and white thinking can't seem to recognize that what they call "socialism" is present in almost every successfull country, city, or community. Just because one agrees with some social ideals doesn't make one socialist/communist.

You can debate what the ideal level of these things are but it's another discussion that can go on ad nauseum.

Edit: I don't know what Boondawg is politically (democrat or republican) and I don't care...does it matter to you? In fact I'm not sure I know what I am as I tend to lean towards whoever I think will benefit myself, mine, and my community better. Not really a big fan of "going with the flow" or having someone tell me what I should think so I like to decide for myself, rightly or wrongly.

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quote Originally posted by newf: I would submit that unfortunately some with black and white thinking can't seem to recognize that what they call "socialism" is present in almost every successfull country, city, or community. Just because one agrees with some social ideals doesn't make one socialist/communist. You can debate what the ideal level of these things are but it's another discussion that can go on ad nauseum. Edit: I don't know what Boondawg is politically (democrat or republican) and I don't care...does it matter to you?

But I'll never know unless he clarifys. It does matter to me... perhaps my whole view of life is wrong, but will I know unless I've hashed it out with others? I base my opinions on the influences I get from others.

10 years ago, I was pro-abortion, and anti-homosexual. I am exactly the opposite now... I'm anti-Abortion (could not possibly be more so), and totally support gay rights. Does that make me a flip-flopper, or does that simply mean I've "refined" my beliefs. I do this by having conversations... it's only human. If I learn something about myself, or change my views by exposing myself and conversing with Boonie, then I will have become a better man for it.

The great debate, is only human... as Aristotle once said:

"We become just by performing just actions, temperate by performing temperate actions, brave by performing brave actions."


I... want to become understood, by understanding.

Boonie seems like a mysterious dude... there's a lot in there. It might be garbage, or... maybe there's lots of nuggets of wisdom in there that I can learn. Everyone else holds their views on their shoulders. You and I both get into some great debates, and I learn from them. Sometimes you change my view, even if slightly, sometimes you harden it. But I can do neither with Boonie while he remains vauge.

quote Originally posted by 82-T/A [At Work]: I may not agree with that, but then again, if you really do believe that, then why would you care what I believe?

Then why does it to you?

But you missed my entire point.
It isn't about whether someone agrees with me or not.
It's not even the silliness that prescribe that opinions even require agreement or disagreement.

I'm not really interested in sharing here what I believe & don't believe anymore.
It impacts me negatively, and only feeds the ugliness in other people.

My beliefs are not looking for a group to be a part of or the validation or acceptance of others.
And certainly not their disapproval.

It is the right of everyone to share of themselves only what they feel comfortable sharing.
And that's what I will share.

This place has done a fine job of teaching me one thing: "Only offer what you are willing to have shredded".

There are just some thing’s I will no longer subject to that, as it serves no productive purpose to anyone other then those bent on seeing reason for battle where none exsist.
And I'm just not interested in the concept of defense/offense as a means of renforcing the illusion of superiority that others seem to hold so dearly, yet refuse to admitt ownership of.

But hey, everyone is welcome to whatever choices on how to carry themselves that they choose.
As am I.

And I hold no ill will for no one here.
We are who we are and that is a very good place to start.

P.S. And now this sample of Boondawg 'throwing a fit' will be preserved in The Pennocks Time Capsule forever.
Should make for a nice in 2020!

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quote Originally posted by Boondawg: P.S. And now this sample of Boondawg 'throwing a fit' will be preserved in The Pennocks Time Capsule forever. Should make for a nice in 2020!

I bet in 8 years, you're totally different... I bet in 8 years, you're conservative and make Uhlanstan look like a communist!

Hey! You never know!!!

In 2020......I'll STILL have "just one more mod" to do on the Fiero!

*sigh*

This thread had so much potential.

quote Originally posted by Cliff Pennock: *sigh* This thread had so much potential.

Yeah, sorry about that.

quote Originally posted by Boondawg: And I tell them the real deal, not some the same old 'company lines' that elders tell the young to avoid themselves being 'unstructured' by the uncertainity of free thinking, so they just fall back on the comfort of using cynical indignation as an unbendable posistion of truth.

Or, you're providing them with your perspective, "the real deal", which is only a different perspective from others.

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Ron

The 6-7 billion currently on Earth will be depopulated to between 500million and 1 billion.

Worlds fastest flying fiero?

quote Originally posted by Boondawg: I am actually still teaching them. The new Washington youth i'm meeting at work seem to be starving for the 'old style' of information that only someone who has been on the planet for 50+ years with no motive can give them. And I tell them the real deal, not some the same old 'company lines' that elders tell the young to avoid themselves being 'unstructured' by the uncertainity of free thinking, so they just fall back on the comfort of using cynical indignation as an unbendable posistion of truth. Avoid anything that starts with "In MY day".............our day is dead. The future belongs to those that have yet to fugg up the past. They'll get their chance, just like we did ours. Hopefully with a little different thinking.

No motive?
At least be honest with yourself if you won't be honest with us.

In 2020, 9 years will have passed.
Several suicide cults will off themselves in 2012 because it's the end of the world.
Apple will have brought out 5 new generations of iPhone.
Oil prices will alternately go up to $200/barrel and drop to $50.
Regular gas will cost $5. It will be kept as an artificially low floor through government subsidies. When the subsidies run out, it will go up to $9, but half of that will be taxes.
The last of the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act provisions having been phased in in 2018, it will no longer be called "ObamaCare" and the main topic of the 2020 elections will be how the Republican health care bill has destroyed the economy.

quote Originally posted by Boondawg: Your predictions for the world of 2020? Gasoline, war, science, space, transvestites, bubblegum, anything you want to predict. We'll comeback here in 2020 and take a look to see who was close.

Gasoline: will be reformulated in such a way that it will be virtually imposable to run old cars. Touted as an environmental issue, the true underlying impetus will be a program to revitalize the auto industry. Everyone will have to by new cars, probably Chinese.

War: same old story, just different locations.

Science: will be refuted by a group of highly intelligent, well informed actors and musicians.

Space: The only space the US will control will be between the ears of politicians.

Transvestite Bubblegum: the latest trend in teeny-bopper top 40. (oh, wait, we are already there)

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The year 2020 isn't very far off. So I predict that everything will be pretty much the same. Sure, stuff will cost more money. Cars will be required to be more fuel efficient. Computers will be able to compute more. The Internet will be more ubiquitous. Et cetera. But these are all small steps in a long march. If you walk down a busy city street in 2020, it will look and feel almost exactly the same as a busy city street in 2011.

quote Originally posted by Cliff Pennock: I predict that in the year 2020, people are still complaining about the rating system on PFF.

People actually do that? Blasphemy!

quote Originally posted by Cliff Pennock: I predict that in the year 2020, time travel will be possible. (Edit: missed it by that much!) [This message has been edited by C. Pennock (edited 04-28-2021).]

-Joe

My predictions for 2020:

1. The government will be using scientific notation to describe the national debt.

2. Hugo Chavez will be only eleven years away from retiring.

3. Social Security retirement age will be indexed to match average life expectancy.

4. A date will be set for American troops to withdraw from Iran.

5. Federal minimum wage will be competitive with worker wages in Bangladesh.

quote Originally posted by Formula88: No motive? At least be honest with yourself if you won't be honest with us.

Oh really?
Again jumping to conclusions?

I tell them to follow their hearts and always be true to themselves.
What's my secret motive, again?

quote Originally posted by Cliff Pennock: *sigh* This thread had so much potential.

Yup, seems some just can't leave well enough alone.
Or use PM.

This one could be a failed test.
Someone less 'public' should start another one.

[This message has been edited by Boondawg (edited 07-31-2011).]