Just listening to the Obamamessiah talk during his labor day rally. WHAT A BLOODY LOSER. Could he possibly blame the past administration any more? Jesus tap dancing christ. When will this failure of a man ever grow a pair and man up to his own failings?
My blood pressure just shoots up listening to him and his same tired old rhetoric.
Worst. President. Ever.
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Posts: 27106 From: Safe in the Carolinas Registered: Aug 2000
You have to understand, people like him - radical leftists - believe all the crap and rhetoric. They believe in big government, that government is the solution to everything, and that elitists like them have the answers. That everyone else isn't smart enough to handle their own lives. We are supposed to need them to survive. For them to admit the leftist agenda isn't working would force them to reevaluate their whole belief system.
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avengador1 Member
Posts: 35468 From: Orlando, Florida Registered: Oct 2001
Just listened to him. There are definitely two worlds out there, reality and his. Listening to him I wanted to break into "Everything's Coming Up Roses", but with this bad economy I have to watch every penny, so even seeds and $hit are off of the table.
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texasfiero Member
Posts: 4674 From: Houston, TX USA Registered: Jun 2003
TRENDING: Obama: They talk about me like a dog Posted: September 6th, 2010 03:52 PM ET
From CNN Ticker Producer Alexander Mooney
(CNN) – Those following President Obama's prepared remarks during a speech in Milwaukee, Wisconsin Monday were thrown a bit of a curveball when it came to a description of his critics:
"Some powerful interests who had been dominating the agenda in Washington for a very long time and they're not always happy with me. They talk about me like a dog. That's not in my prepared remarks, but it's true," he told a crowd largely consisting of union members.
The line was a rare departure from a president who normally sticks close to the text of his speech and may forecast a more aggressive tone on the part of Obama as the midterms approach.
The address is the first of two speeches this week in which Obama will try and frame his administration's response to the recession, less than two months ahead of midterm elections where Democratic majorities in the House and Senate are on the ropes.
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MidEngineManiac Member
Posts: 29566 From: Some unacceptable view Registered: Feb 2007
Mr. President, when you talk down to the American people as if WE'RE dogs, what the hell do you expect?
He has been talking about republicans like they were dogs since the day he flew in from Kenya. This is quite funny considering he has "Dog Talked" Bush in virtually every speech. What is good for the goose, is good for the gander is fitting here, but Boonie already used that one today in another post.
I find him very entertaining. He's pretty good at selling. If you listen softly, you start to feel better about things. It's almost like getting high!
But remember, I'm unemployed & paid $300 bucks to go see HALF of Pink Floyd. So I'm not a great judge of value in entertainment...
That is exactly how he got elected in the first place. That is the appeal of cult figures. They captivate but say nothing. Hitler was a genius at it. He used strategic silence to built tension, then he began speaking softly, almost inaudibly. Slowly outlining problems and stereotypes to turn that tension into frustration. Then he would end by raising his voice into an empassioned pledge to solve the problems....but never stating how, only eluding to things like removing the jews, printing money like it was going out of style, public works projects like the autobahn, and so on.
Loafer, don't get me wrong, some public works projects are a good thing. The Hoover damn sponsored by President Hoover was a perfect example of something that not only put lots of people to work but it was a profit center with it's hydro electric power station so it paid for itself in a few years of operation. The water and power THEN allowed for the growth of Las Vegas, Los Angeles, etc. which would have never been built otherwise. These in turn created millions of new jobs!!
Obama's new roads will not raise one new dollar, will not create one new market, and will not pay for themselves EVER. These are not only inept projects that are poorly conceived over a a couple of Coronas, but they are criminal during a depression.
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Posts: 25408 From: Florida USA Registered: Aug 2002
How many guys and gals on the forum actually voted for the charismatic Mr Obama and now are on the bandwagon criticizing him? I for one, did not like him from the get go. Didn't like his politics, his background, or his grease.
So as we roundly criticize, which he deserves IMHO, who will own up to having voted for him? (just call me a SD)
How many guys and gals on the forum actually voted for the charismatic Mr Obama and now are on the bandwagon criticizing him? I for one, did not like him from the get go. Didn't like his politics, his background, or his grease.
So as we roundly criticize, which he deserves IMHO, who will own up to having voted for him? (just call me a SD)
Arn
I was reading some pre-election posts the other day, and several had him spot on long before he took office. Me, I was raised in the projects, been hearing jive talkers while still breast feeding. Seen him coming a mile away.
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pokeyfiero Member
Posts: 16233 From: Free America! Registered: Dec 2003
How many guys and gals on the forum actually voted for the charismatic Mr Obama and now are on the bandwagon criticizing him? I for one, did not like him from the get go. Didn't like his politics, his background, or his grease.
So as we roundly criticize, which he deserves IMHO, who will own up to having voted for him? (just call me a SD)
Loafer, don't get me wrong, some public works projects are a good thing. The Hoover damn sponsored by President Hoover was a perfect example of something that not only put lots of people to work but it was a profit center with it's hydro electric power station so it paid for itself in a few years of operation. The water and power THEN allowed for the growth of Las Vegas, Los Angeles, etc. which would have never been built otherwise. These in turn created millions of new jobs!!
Not too sure if your stimulus dollars amounted to the same thing, but up here in Canada it meant a bunch of make work projects where you would see half a dozen union turds standing idle, leaning on their shovels, while maybe one person did some meanial task such as patching a pothole. They were make work projects, plain and simple. And it made my blood boil everytime I saw one of these "stimulus" projects at work. Maybe it is because I am a simple conservative and don't understand the fine ways of liberal economics, but I jsut can't see how one can spend ones way out of debt and a possible recession through ill thought out projects like these.
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Posts: 38235 From: Displaced Alaskan Registered: Jun 2003
who will own up to having voted for him? (just call me a SD)
Arn
I have never stated weather I voted for him or not, nor have I ever spoke out in favor or against anything he has done. I like to see which end of the rope history puts someone before I choose sides. Then I just forget about all the bad things and highlight the good things. Hell, even Nixon came out smelling like roses, once enough time had past.
History eventually forgives everyone. What don't kill us makes us stronger.
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pokeyfiero Member
Posts: 16233 From: Free America! Registered: Dec 2003
I have never stated weather I voted for him or not, nor have I ever spoke out in favor or against anything he has done. I like to see which end of the rope history puts someone before I choose sides. Then I just forget about all the bad things and highlight the good things. Hell, even Nixon came out smelling like roses, once enough time had past.
History eventually forgives everyone. What don't kill us makes us stronger.
Well at least we know where you "stand".
Sounds like you sittin on the side in a lazyboy watching the show!
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Toddster Member
Posts: 20871 From: Roswell, Georgia Registered: May 2001
Not too sure if your stimulus dollars amounted to the same thing, but up here in Canada it meant a bunch of make work projects where you would see half a dozen union turds standing idle, leaning on their shovels, while maybe one person did some meanial task such as patching a pothole. They were make work projects, plain and simple. And it made my blood boil everytime I saw one of these "stimulus" projects at work. Maybe it is because I am a simple conservative and don't understand the fine ways of liberal economics, but I jsut can't see how one can spend ones way out of debt and a possible recession through ill thought out projects like these.
That is the Obama version of a stimulus and that is exactly what is wrong with America today.
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jaskispyder Member
Posts: 21510 From: Northern MI Registered: Jun 2002
I seen it here... we had one of our LOCAL roads rebuilt.. Probably about 1/2 to 3/4 of a mile. This was marked as stimulus funding. All I seen was a lot of standing around and very little work getting done over the 3-4 weeks it took them to rip up and lay down new asphalt. What I find funny is that in our town, you have to pay for the road repair for any roads adjoining your property. However, those people who got the stimulus funded road repair will not have to pay for it.... how is that right? Also, let me state that this was not a bridge that was falling down, it was just a road that needed to be resurfaced. Waste of tax payer money, but I would like to thank everyone for paying for me to drive on a nice smooth road.... that will only last about 5 years because of the poor soil and freeze/thaw cycle.
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Posts: 10007 From: Marion Ohio Registered: Apr 2004
thank everyone for paying for me to drive on a nice smooth road....
The best part is that didnt CREATE a single job. Its sold like employers will be snatching up anyone they can get, in reality its just taking guys who would otherwise just be doing some other project or some busywork and having them do this project.
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jaskispyder Member
Posts: 21510 From: Northern MI Registered: Jun 2002
The best part is that didnt CREATE a single job. Its sold like employers will be snatching up anyone they can get, in reality its just taking guys who would otherwise just be doing some other project or some busywork and having them do this project.
Yup, that is part of the "saved jobs"..... these guys may have worked... what.... a week total? Wow.... millions spent to keep a handful of people employed. lame
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KidO Member
Posts: 1019 From: The Pacific Northwest Registered: Dec 2003
How many guys and gals on the forum actually voted for the charismatic Mr Obama and now are on the bandwagon criticizing him? I for one, did not like him from the get go. Didn't like his politics, his background, or his grease.
So as we roundly criticize, which he deserves IMHO, who will own up to having voted for him? (just call me a SD)
Arn
Wasn't the economy already circling the bowel in 2008 prior to the elections? Would the election of the other candidate had made a difference? Politics have become very divisive over the last few elections, but can anyone truly believe that one politician is going to be that much different than the other?
I am first to agree that our political system needs a good clean out, but replacing one politician with another just gets us "more politicians". Unfortunately, human nature is led by greed. How many people truly do good things without considering "what's in it for me" or "how can I help out my (insert friends, cronies, etc.)"?
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rogergarrison Member
Posts: 49601 From: A Western Caribbean Island/ Columbus, Ohio Registered: Apr 99
Hes back here in Ohio tommorrow. Wonder what new BS he can spout off. I did hear about something like a new stimulus package to put people to work for $50 million more dollars. And if I heard it right, he said it will be paid with no more government spending....WTF. He gonna pull it out of his azz ? If he knows some secret way to get hold of $50 mill without borrowing or stealing it, let me know, Id be great with just one million myself.
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jaskispyder Member
Posts: 21510 From: Northern MI Registered: Jun 2002
Originally posted by KidO: but can anyone truly believe that one politician is going to be that much different than the other?
Yes, someone who understands politics, economics, leadership, compassion, strength and the Constitution.... combine this together and you have a successful US President.
Obama doesn't understand any of these things.
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pokeyfiero Member
Posts: 16233 From: Free America! Registered: Dec 2003
Wasn't the economy already circling the bowel in 2008 prior to the elections? Would the election of the other candidate had made a difference? Politics have become very divisive over the last few elections, but can anyone truly believe that one politician is going to be that much different than the other?
I am first to agree that our political system needs a good clean out, but replacing one politician with another just gets us "more politicians". Unfortunately, human nature is led by greed. How many people truly do good things without considering "what's in it for me" or "how can I help out my (insert friends, cronies, etc.)"?
Hell yes it was going to **** . Been going down slowly for a decade but it has it ups and downs and there is always a party to take credit for the ups and blame the downs on someone else.
If McOld got in it wouldn't have tanked so much because investors wouldn't have freaked out so much but still it would have gone. Mc OLd was all over the stimulus just like Bush was when he left office. Obama just took **** to a level that is incredible. He has no shame to do what is really on his agenda.
Really you should all thank Obama for saving you all a few years of waiting for everything to hit the fan. The longer it takes the more time the world will advance and pass us by. So if we get this over with faster that is better for us. Like a NASCAR pitstop except we need a new car not just a tire.
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Yes, someone who understands politics, economics, leadership, compassion, strength and the Constitution.... combine this together and you have a successful US President.
Obama doesn't understand any of these things.
Sure he understands all that, just none of it fits in with what he wants.
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KidO Member
Posts: 1019 From: The Pacific Northwest Registered: Dec 2003
Sure he understands all that, just none of it fits in with what he wants.
Does that make what he is doing wrong? It seems to me that it is a matter of opinion, and/or interpretation, and his does not agree with yours. In November of 2008, a few more people liked what he stood for (or didn't stand for) than McCain, and he won the election.
This country is pretty evenly divided politically, and has been for some time. After each election, the side that didn't win becomes a bunch of sore losers, and works their hardest to discredit the guy who won. It is going on now, just as it did with Bush, and Clinton, and Bush before that. All in all, it is not very constructive, and it brings forth the extremists from the group. Now we have all kinds of Rhetoric blasting about to discredit the leader of our country, from the legitimacy of his U.S. Citizenship to his religious beliefs. All this does is take away from the true issues at hand. It is easy to lead the sheeple, and even easier if it is in a negative direction.
I am looking forward to the opportunity to someday vote for a presidential candidate, not because he is better than the other guy, or better than the last guy, but better because he is a true leader! We haven't had that person for a very long time.
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jaskispyder Member
Posts: 21510 From: Northern MI Registered: Jun 2002
Sure he understands all that, just none of it fits in with what he wants.
Obummer ideas are similar to the belief that the FASTER one drives their car, the sooner one can reach the gas station! Obummer's reasoning (sic) here is if I drive the economy in the same way, we will never run out of gas In this logic, Obummer thinks, the economy will nun forever if we keep the accelorator to the floor without economizing on anything. A community organizer, who never so much as owned a hot-dog stand, cannot possibly understand economics.
Cordially, Kevin
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jaskispyder Member
Posts: 21510 From: Northern MI Registered: Jun 2002
If you were on the board of GM, who would you put in charge? Person A, fresh out of college, lots of money from personal ventures, but never drove a car, and never ran a business. Person B, a car lover, ran a successful multi-million dollar business, has connections with others within the automotive industry.
Who would you want to run GM?
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Doug85GT Member
Posts: 9923 From: Sacramento CA USA Registered: May 2003
If you were on the board of GM, who would you put in charge? Person A, fresh out of college, lots of money from personal ventures, but never drove a car, and never ran a business. Person B, a car lover, ran a successful multi-million dollar business, has connections with others within the automotive industry.
Who would you want to run GM?
Yeah, but person A can speak really well in front of a teleprompter. The uneducated have no reasoning ability. His election was the result of a perfect storm, where he was the only guy who could speak eloquently, without saying anything, but could enunciate platitudes with aplomb. And so here we are................sad.
Cordially, Kevin
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Boondawg Member
Posts: 38235 From: Displaced Alaskan Registered: Jun 2003
Sounds like you sittin on the side in a lazyboy watching the show!
Ummmm, it was ment to be "tounge-in-cheek".
Though, If what you say is true, how is what I'm doing less productive then what everyone else is doing? Bitching online about everything the president is doing accomplishes more then someone not bitching online about everything the president is doing?
Besides voting & bitching, what else is everyone doing to change that which can't be changed untill the next vote? I mean besides bitching?
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partfiero Member
Posts: 6923 From: Tucson, Arizona Registered: Jan 2002
YES! He has piled unsustainable debt on the future of this country that will effect every generation to come. He is not the only pres to have done this, but the worst by far. We now have a debt that is not only mind boggling, but can only be alleviated through the printing of worthless dollars. This will cause massive inflation which makes the middle class on down more impoverished.