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Florida Confederate License Plate by Formula88
Started on: 08-18-2006 09:19 PM
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Last post by: madcurl on 08-21-2006 08:06 PM
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Report this Post08-19-2006 11:36 PM Click Here to See the Profile for WolfhoundClick Here to visit Wolfhound's HomePageClick Here to Email WolfhoundSend a Private Message to WolfhoundDirect Link to This Post
Just to be fair shouldn't Florida have a "Son of a Blue Belly Plate"
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Report this Post08-19-2006 11:42 PM Click Here to See the Profile for $Rich$Click Here to Email $Rich$Send a Private Message to $Rich$Direct Link to This Post
i like this Florida plate

http://www.snopes.com/photos/risque/license.asp

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Report this Post08-19-2006 11:45 PM Click Here to See the Profile for Formula88Send a Private Message to Formula88Direct Link to This Post
Here's a list of currently available specialty plates in Florida, including how much money the state has made from their sale: http://www3.hsmv.state.fl.us/Intranet/dmv/specialtytags/specialindex.cfm

You can already get this one.



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Originally posted by Phranc:
Damn I missed that part.

Still if an opposing side was allowed to get plates would that be ok? If so would it still be ok for the cofederates to keep thiers? Or would you allow the opposition and only discriminate against the confederates? Or should the state allow no special plates?



Either a state should adopt a system such as MD wherein any group can get a plate.
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The state should accept the fact that any plate they mint is a representation of the state, not just the person whose car it adorns.

Under the current Florida system, the "confederates", as you call them, are looking for an endorsement from the legislature and the governor. If that endorsement is granted, FL could very well find themselves forced (on the grounds of free speech and equal treatment) to give plates to anyone who opposes the "confederates." Or opposes what they *think* the "confederates" stand for.

I oppose granting any special plates that could be political. I oppose granting license plates both to pro-life and pro-choice. I oppose granting these people their plates. I oppose granting plates to the NAACP. I oppose granting license plates to Democrats and Republicans and Green Party and Libertarians etc.

If you want to make a political statement, buy a bumper sticker.

These folks might make the arguement that their plate isn't political. But that argument is debatable at best.
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Originally posted by Formula88:

Here's a list of currently available specialty plates in Florida, including how much money the state has made from their sale: http://www3.hsmv.state.fl.us/Intranet/dmv/specialtytags/specialindex.cfm

You can already get this one.




A strong case could be made for eliminating that plate as well as the John Lennon "Imagine" plate.
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Report this Post08-20-2006 12:21 AM Click Here to See the Profile for PhrancClick Here to Email PhrancSend a Private Message to PhrancDirect Link to This Post
 
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Originally posted by cccharlie:
Either a state should adopt a system such as MD wherein any group can get a plate.
Or
The state should accept the fact that any plate they mint is a representation of the state, not just the person whose car it adorns.

Under the current Florida system, the "confederates", as you call them, are looking for an endorsement from the legislature and the governor. If that endorsement is granted, FL could very well find themselves forced (on the grounds of free speech and equal treatment) to give plates to anyone who opposes the "confederates." Or opposes what they *think* the "confederates" stand for.

I oppose granting any special plates that could be political. I oppose granting license plates both to pro-life and pro-choice. I oppose granting these people their plates. I oppose granting plates to the NAACP. I oppose granting license plates to Democrats and Republicans and Green Party and Libertarians etc.

If you want to make a political statement, buy a bumper sticker.

These folks might make the arguement that their plate isn't political. But that argument is debatable at best.


Cool, I understand where your comin' from now. I personaly hate all the extra tags. Besides the standard plates I think they should only make "historic" and "street rod".
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I'm sure someone will correct me if I am wrong, but in Florida the specialty plates are not approved if they connote a political statement, like "Proud Democrat" or "Bomb Cuba."
With one exception: The anti abortionists got the "Choose Life" plate, the pro choice backers are not represented.

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I *think* there was some big hoopla in the news about a Pro Choice plate being denied. But it might have been talk about a Pro Choice plate when the Choose Life plate came out.
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Originally posted by Formula88:

You can already get this one.




 
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Originally posted by Formula88:

"Sons of Confederate Veterans wants to get a confederate flag plate added to the list of specialty plates in Florida."

Here's an example of the plate:


What do you think?




Hmm....I'd pass on both plates. I like to keep people guessing.
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Report this Post08-21-2006 01:20 PM Click Here to See the Profile for SongmanClick Here to visit Songman's HomePageSend a Private Message to SongmanDirect Link to This Post
Let's really throw them off, Curly! I'll get the 'Live The Dream' and you get the 'Confederate Heritage'!

Personally, I think they are both pretty good plates. Society has put these two plates on opposite sides of some argument that I don't think really exists. I support both.

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Originally posted by Songman:
Society has put these two plates on opposite sides of some argument that I don't think really exists. I support both.


Thats part of the problem. Its a matter of perception.

I'd say that each of those plates has different meanings to different people. Some believe MLK was a communist, for example. Some believe that all confederates were / are racists.

I just think the state should stay out of those sorts of debates. Its none of their business.

Debating who is worthy of appearing on a license plate and codifying it is a silly (at best) thing for a govt to be doing.

If you support MLK or the Sons of Confederate Veterans, there are plenty of ways to show it without dragging bureaucrats and politicians into it.

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BTW -

Rhode Island was a rebellious confederate state long before the South was.

Rhode Island (aka Rogue's Island) was the last state to ratify the Constitution. RI apparently preferred to continue under the Articles of Confederation, earning RI the scorn of the other 12 states.
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Report this Post08-21-2006 04:23 PM Click Here to See the Profile for WolfhoundClick Here to visit Wolfhound's HomePageClick Here to Email WolfhoundSend a Private Message to WolfhoundDirect Link to This Post
Here is a list of florida veterans from the civil War as well as the Indian wars.
Not complete but a good listing. It,s actually a turn of the century book, on line, as photographed pages.
Read a little of it. look at the remarks to the right in the list.
http://www.civilwarflorida.com/site/sources/sof/

Somebody wants a Tag fine. Screw perceptions, most are based on ignorance anyway.

Here is a surname index that has many names missing. but it,s OK.
http://www.civilwarflorida.com/site/soldiers/soldier_index.php

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Originally posted by Songman:

Society has put these two plates on opposite sides of some argument that I don't think really exists. I support both.




Ain't that the truth.
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Originally posted by Songman:

Let's really throw them off, Curly! I'll get the 'Live The Dream' and you get the 'Confederate Heritage'!



Hehe. Actually I prefer the little red tags that the DMV hands out when your waiting for new plates or expired. I hate going to different states with CA plates. People can very rude sometimes or worse----criminals will try and rip you off.

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