Someone was telling me that some people actually believe that America didn't land on the moon, and it was all a hoax to bring up patriotism or something. Anyone believe this?? Seems kind of stupid to me.
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Isn't that like Acient history?
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Posts: 4368 From: Flint, MI USA Registered: Sep 2000
Yep, it was all filmed at Warner Brothers Studios. I took a "backlot" tour a few years ago. Neil's footprints, the American flag, and the lunar mobile are still there!
Yes, some people believed that there was a conspiracy, but it's pretty hard to prove otherwise.
wel verry evl men is in govt so don be suprized wen they fool u jfk same thin mlk and rfk was all them too very evil govt tryin to take gwbush is going to stage moon red plant thing take remmber jfk
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAA! That is funny! Isn't that "ebonics" or something like that? Let me try my Alabama version: Y'all relly 'lieve dat tuff 'bout dem folks landin a roket ship on da moon? Uncle pawpaw sed it aint nuthin but a big ol' pile of chittlins. Aint no mans never walked on dat moon.
No, seriously, this is really bugging me. Has it been proven? I heard that they couldn't take photos of the moon from here to make sure it's real? I've been doing some reading and it seems a lot of people think it's a hoax. I find the whole idea kind of wierd, but I never really thought about it. I know some people are nuts and think everything's a conspiracy, but they DO make some good points (the cross hairs being behind the objects in the photos), and the shadows going the wrong way DO say something. I need proof before I freak out!
To be honest, I've seen and read all the websites that think the moonlanding was a hoax. Their so called "evidence" against the moonlanding is laughable and so easily proven wrong.
Originally posted by Phil: They even made a movie about the very same thing. Can't remember the name of it or if it was a TV or regular movie.
Think the name of the movie was Capricorn I, or something like that.
My wife and I had this conversation a few days ago. How many people worked on the Apollo program? Hundreds? Thousands? Isn't it likely that, if it really was a hoax, someone would have blabbed by now? Wouldn't someone have smuggled out some concrete proof? Wouldn't someone say "I was there. It never happened."? Merely an opinion. I'm convinced it was real.
So what happened from the time the rocket took off until the capsul was recovered? The astronauts were gone for a while, so maybe they decided to spend some time on the dark side of the moon. I always thought the moon would be a very cool place to hang out.
Still waiting for rayb "Speak up! I can barely hear ya!"
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Phaeton Member
Posts: 1437 From: Interior Alaska Registered: Dec 1999
Capricorn 1, while not the greatest movie, had some of the greatest stunt flying ever involving a stolen biplane being pursued by "government" helicopters. Cool desert canyon stuff. I'm convinced the moon landings really did happen but I belieive the whole reason for going was to develop nuclear ICBM technology and accurate rockets for wiping out Soviet targets. I think "space exploration" was an easier sell to the U.S. public tho.
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Patrick's Dad Member
Posts: 5154 From: Weymouth MA USA Registered: Feb 2000
To think that we got to the moon on less computer power than the 386 sitting in my basement....
As a retailer (of telescopes), people ask me if they can see the landing sites. Well, think about it this way; an LM's base is about 15' on a side, so it's area is about 225 square feet. Aside from the fact that it's sitting *somewhere* on a body that's over 2600 miles wide, it's also at a mean distance of about 240,000 miles away. At least there's gold foil lining the base's exterior.
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Cliff Pennock Administrator
Posts: 11609 From: Zandvoort, The Netherlands Registered: Jan 99
Actually, up until a few years ago the total computing power of the Space Shuttle equalled that of a Commodore 64. Hard to believe (and I have participated in a lot of flamewars on the internet because of that) but very true.
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Posts: 158 From: Bonne Terre, MO USA Registered: Mar 99
Originally posted by Eric: So what happened from the time the rocket took off until the capsul was recovered? The astronauts were gone for a while, so maybe they decided to spend some time on the dark side of the moon. I always thought the moon would be a very cool place to hang out.
Still waiting for rayb "Speak up! I can barely hear ya!"
I read somewhere that Neil and the gang hung out with Darth Vader, visited the deathstar and came home.
Guys man.. I'm not joking.. I have no doubt they did land on the moon. But after all this research I've done recently, it seems there is something fishy going on.
JohnnyK, there's really nothing fishy going on at all. All things the hoax-believers present as "weird", "strange" or "fishy" are actually very normal and expected things for the moon's environment.
No, I don't mean fishy like that. I just mean that I've read that they've found some "geometrical" formations up there, miles above, and below the ground.
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Cliff Pennock Administrator
Posts: 11609 From: Zandvoort, The Netherlands Registered: Jan 99
I thought everyone knew why we haven't gone back. The had a comercial about it. You know, the green cheese theory :
"behold the power of cheese"
Seriously though, We went to the moon and if you think that we did not, then you have some loose screws that need tightning.
Just because there has not been any recent flights to the moon that we know about, does not mean we have not been back. I would not find it hard to believe, that we have been back secretly for military purposes.
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Posts: 2741 From: Merritt Island, FL USA Registered: Jun 99
We didnt go back to the moon because the American public lost interest. Its kind of a shame because the US has yet to build a vehicle as powerful as the Saturn V. In fact, the Saturn V was so heavy that it actually had to burn off some of fuel before the Thrust to weight ratio shifted enough to move the rocket upward.
We havent been back to the moon since the 70's. NASA wont dare park anything with enough fuel to pull that off in the Shuttles Payload bay (especially after Challenger). The shuttle couldnt do it itself because it is not radiation hardened enough to pass through the extreme radiation belts that exist outside the atmosphere.
The International Space Station is a good step toward a base in space from which we can launch missions further into the solar system or maybe even colonize the moon. Unfortunately, the ISS program is grossly overbudget and behind schedule because of Russias involvement. The Clinton administration felt that it was important to keep Russian scientists involved on the ISS project so that they would not develop various types of weapons. Thats not to say the Russians should not have been allowed to help with the venture, since they did sucessfully operate MIR for a while, but they spend US dollars on missions to MIR and other space missions not related to the ISS. Americans working in the space program didnt take to kindly to that.
Anyway, We went to the moon, and we will do it again. Unfortunately, it appears to be a priority for no-one. The only reason we did it in the first place was the fear of "the commies" doing it first. I bet if Saddam Hussien started making noises about a moon base you would see NASAs budget increase exponentially to insure we did it first.
I did some research on the Sat.V rocket. as configured for Apollo 10. it had a thrust:weight ratio of 1.2:1 7,680,982lbs thrust: 6,371,703lbs T.V.W. including fuel and payload
The sat rocket did not have to burn any fuel to lightien the load so it could take off. They did however hold back the rocket for a couple of seconds at take off, this was done via mechanical restraints. this ensured all motors were running properly before lift off.
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DJRice Member
Posts: 2741 From: Merritt Island, FL USA Registered: Jun 99
I believe also that we went to the moon. I just think that by now we should be more advanced then what we are now. We should already have a base on the moon, maybe even a colony.
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Posts: 852 From: Cantonment, FL Registered: Dec 1999
My old grandma, long dead, who lived deep in the backwoods of south GA never did believe we landed on the moon. She used to say "nah, I don't thank they went to da moon, I thank they landed on one of them there planiks".
To this day, 30+ years later, whenever my wife or kids express disbelief about something, I repeat grandma's words to them!!
he's just stating what he believes in just as you and I are.
(That is a good movie).
