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Fiero Option #3 & 4: Glassed Hatchback & Glassed Deck lid Versions (post them here). by madcurl
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In the beginning, GM had a few concept ideas for the Fiero. One idea that never reached the concept stage was a glassed hatchback version. Granted, GM is now cranking out a glass hatchback Solstice version. Not to be left in the shadows of a Solstice- some of us have decided it's time for a change. All Fieros; Finale's, Non-chopped/Chopped, custom versions, and glassed deck lid versions please post them here.


IMO there are many ideas floating around that could be used, especially using a larger glass for all deck lid versions. If it were me, I'd be exploring these possibilities.

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Lizardo kit:


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i think archie is makeing one under whats going on at archie ??
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yeah he is. think theres an unfinished version on page 57
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here is the one from archie

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what seperates people from the engine?
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Originally posted by Bremertonfiero:

what seperates people from the engine?


People are sentient, supposedly intelligent, beings while the engine is just a mechanical device built to serve us.

Sorry, couldn't resist - the back glass is still there. The "second skin" glass is just for looks...

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Originally posted by toddshotrods:


People are sentient, supposedly intelligent, beings while the engine is just a mechanical device built to serve us.

Sorry, couldn't resist - the back glass is still there. The "second skin" glass is just for looks...



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Originally posted by toddshotrods:

Sorry, couldn't resist - the back glass is still there. The "second skin" glass is just for looks...



That's the main difference between the hatchback on a front engine car and a Fiero...on the Solstice the hatch area can actually be used for storage and makes the car more practical. On the Fiero it's strictly for looks.
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Er... how does the heat get out?
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i dont know what to tink of them they look very nice but they scream 300ZX at me. tell you the truth the back end being flat is what brought me to fieros. you dont see cars like that anymore for under 100k.

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Originally posted by D2inDFW:

Er... how does the heat get out?


Clayton's car isn't finished, but the Crew will no doubt cut some type of pattern for venting.







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It is a weight adder, but I imagine it would reduce the drag a lot.
Probably increase the top speed at least a couple km/h.
The vertical window on a stock Fiero sucks.

I imagine though at lower speeds it might hurt the handling some, probably pretty heavy, and mounted high up in the car.

Any opinions on the drag reduction benefits or weight increasing drawbacks?
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Originally posted by madcurl:

Lizardo kit:



That is not the Lizardo Kit. The Lizardo Kit is a total rebody kit that resembles the Lambo Galardo. That is just a hatch designed to fit the standard Fastback Fiero

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A while back bubbajoe was working on a Fiero that looked like a station wagon. I don't know what beame of it but it was unique looking.

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Originally posted by Dennis LaGrua:

A while back bubbajoe was working on a Fiero that looked like a station wagon. I don't know what beame of it but it was unique looking.



It's still around Dennis, I bought it in April 2008 and got it on the road the day before driving it to the 25th.
It may never be "completed" but here's a picture from last fall.
I continued the original build thread that can be found in my signature.

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Originally posted by pmbrunelle:

It is a weight adder, but I imagine it would reduce the drag a lot.
Probably increase the top speed at least a couple km/h.
The vertical window on a stock Fiero sucks.

I imagine though at lower speeds it might hurt the handling some, probably pretty heavy, and mounted high up in the car.

Any opinions on the drag reduction benefits or weight increasing drawbacks?


In my case, it's mainly for looks and a challenge build. As for the weight vs stock.... I have no idea, but do know that the glass/metal/fiberglass is heavier than stock. Maybe Archie could weigh the 350Z deck and stock deck lid?

The drag too is a unknown factor for know body has access to a system to check it or for that matter- checking everything else. Granted, no one car would be the same for all usually have different noses, ground FX, windshields, and such. #020 would be different outcome since the car is chopped with a non-stock front windshield, wide body, and nose. Too many variables to fit all applications.

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Originally posted by madcurl:

Lizardo kit:



What does something like this do to the heat in the engine bay?
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quote
Originally posted by Fiero2m8:


It's still around Dennis, I bought it in April 2008 and got it on the road the day before driving it to the 25th.
It may never be "completed" but here's a picture from last fall.
I continued the original build thread that can be found in my signature.

Ryan




Hey, i think i followed that car to the museum...
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Originally posted by madcurl:


In my case, it's mainly for looks and a challenge build. As for the weight vs stock.... I have no idea, but do know that the glass/metal/fiberglass is heavier than stock. Maybe Archie could weigh the 350Z deck and stock deck lid?

The drag too is a unknown factor for know body has access to a system to check it or for that matter- checking everything else. Granted, no one car would be the same for all usually have different noses, ground FX, windshields, and such. #020 would be different outcome since the car is chopped with a non-stock front windshield, wide body, and nose. Too many variables to fit all applications.


Either way it's pretty badass!
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Originally posted by Nurb432:


What does something like this do to the heat in the engine bay?


With large side scoops I would think the heat wouldn't be an issue while the car is moving.
I have Archie rocker scoops and FiberSmith sail scoops installed in my car, the air going directly into the compartment should vent pretty well. I wouldnt want to put them on a stock Fiero without adding some kind of extra venting.

I have my eye on both of them, but you never know I may just cut the roof off and put on a Tunnel Ram and be done with it
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The improvement in drag coeffecient always out performs weight reduction at high speeds. An extra 30 lbs at 100 mph is negligible compared to a loss of even 1 Cd. Just look at the Bugatti Veyron: 4500 lbs with a 253 mph top speed, given it has 1000 Hp, the new ZR1 Vette has nearly the same power to weight ratio, but it will only do 205 drag limited. I can't say the extra weight up high will improve the handling, but every Ferrari (mid-engine coupes) since the mid 90s has sported a glass engine cover similar to the ones above.
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Originally posted by Nurb432:
Hey, i think i followed that car to the museum...


Well usually what is behind me is of no concern...but the way to the museum I snapped this one - nice car

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Option #3 & #4;







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The details;

 
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Originally posted by Archie:

Bringing this thread up to date....

I don't think I ever described the hinges we made for the hatchback lid.

As I've stated before I wanted this hatchback kit done so that no mods needed to be done to the rear clip to install the hatch. So we modified the old Fiero decklid hinges to fit under the plastic upper rear roof section of the rear clip.

We then inserted a threaded plate between the 2 layers of the Fiero spaceframe behind the sunroof opening.















The hatch is setup to use the original Fiero decklid bumpers, Key Lock & latch....









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I like the hatch, but looks a little rear heavy. Loses the "balanced" look of a stock Fiero if that makes sense. I still like it. I'll consider it for my GT. I'd have to do something with the widebody and spoiler though, maybe that's it... Need to get the hamster running with some ideas.

edit: maybe it needs an additional window between the door windows and quarter window scoop, open it up a bit, like a Pantera or Esprit.

double edit: probably need to see it in person, first. Might look a whole lot different.

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Originally posted by Dennis LaGrua:

A while back bubbajoe was working on a Fiero that looked like a station wagon. I don't know what beame of it but it was unique looking.



Is it this one you are talking about ?

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Robert 2, thanks for making me throwup in my mouth. It is liking witnessing an accident. Just can't turn my head away.
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Never said it is nice just tried to answer Dennis question
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so how would a hatch look on a notchback? lol
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i think a saw the wagon version somewhere deep in Bubbajoe's thread. it was originally on the Fiero that ended up with the Camero rear glass. if i'm not mistaken there was a shot of it cut up and trashed.
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quote
Originally posted by madcurl:


and ive JIZZED. IN. MY. PANTS

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Robert2, not knocking you. Just the pic. It is actually quite nice when someone pulls up a pic of a different idea. I have nothing but love for everyone on this forum.
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Originally posted by Tony Kania:

Robert2, not knocking you. Just the pic. It is actually quite nice when someone pulls up a pic of a different idea. I have nothing but love for everyone on this forum.


After i found it was Miss Lori's car , i have the same feeling than you had

I didn't take it as an offense , just telling you why i posted that pic .
Regard Robert

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I often think of the rear "glass" in one of the '60s-'70s Porsche? race cars. Plexiglass with a number of 4 inch wide louvers formed in. Strictly for aerodynamics, louvers to vent the heat.

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