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According to TheDetroitBureau.com, the next Corvette generation, the C7, will come with a "small" hight rev 3 liters turbo V8 in a mid-engine layout.

The Fiero's revenge....

http://www.thedetroitbureau...gh-revving-turbo-v8/

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So that would then be a Fivette? Or a Corvero?

I really hope they don't. They should keep the corvette as a corvette.

I really hope they DO!! The Corvette is an amazing car especially the newer models and to have a mid engine well balanced technological tour de force in the new Corvette, whatever they want to call it, is a step in the right direction if you ask me. I have seen some artists conceptions of that proposed car and it looks amazing. They sure as hell better get it right the first time or the vette guys will just plain kill it. There is no doubt that a mid engine rear or all wheel drive car is the best layout in terms of performance and there are far too many race cars sporting that layout to argue that fact. If the new vette were to be very well balanced and suspended it would be an even more potent player on the world stage. I am also thinking that some of the technology and parts from this car could make it's way into a fiero someday after they are around awhile. I have always loved corvettes and they are a great value in a supercar today, and yes the new ZR1 is definitely a supercar, and if they were to built it this way yet RETAIN the corvette's unique style and comfort as well as bang for the buck they would surely have a winner.... Peace


Pete

It will probably be notorious for fires.

GM has been doing this for decades. Every time they "threaten" to change the Corvette, the purists start foaming at the mouth, and they back down. I wouldn't be surprised if it was all a reverse-psychology game.

quote Originally posted by Cheever3000: It will probably be notorious for fires.

quote Originally posted by Pete Matos: I really hope they DO!! The Corvette is an amazing car especially the newer models and to have a mid engine well balanced technological tour de force in the new Corvette, whatever they want to call it, is a step in the right direction if you ask me. I have seen some artists conceptions of that proposed car and it looks amazing. They sure as hell better get it right the first time or the vette guys will just plain kill it. There is no doubt that a mid engine rear or all wheel drive car is the best layout in terms of performance and there are far too many race cars sporting that layout to argue that fact. If the new vette were to be very well balanced and suspended it would be an even more potent player on the world stage. I am also thinking that some of the technology and parts from this car could make it's way into a fiero someday after they are around awhile. I have always loved corvettes and they are a great value in a supercar today, and yes the new ZR1 is definitely a supercar, and if they were to built it this way yet RETAIN the corvette's unique style and comfort as well as bang for the buck they would surely have a winner.... Peace Pete

If you want an eye opening experinece you need to take a day and do the following... go to a dealer and test drive a Z06 Vette. then go and test drive a GTR.
the GTR is utterly amazing It is far better composed in the curves than the vette is and feels more like a sports car inside, which is wierd for a car with more than 2 seats.

And yes I have driven both.

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quote Originally posted by Finally_Mine_86_GT:

Remember that a car can be "mid-engine" when the engine sits aft of the front wheels in a front engine configuration.

quote Originally posted by UND_Sioux: Remember that a car can be "mid-engine" when the engine sits aft of the front wheels in a front engine configuration.

All Vettes have been mid-engine for some time now, yes. Also, Internet rumor mill sites exist for a reason. As well as they are called rumors for a reason.

They discussed this a bit in OT here: https://www.fiero.nl/forum/Forum6/HTML/085614.html

Saw this concept on the net.

I read somewhere that the C7 will not be mid-engine... maybe the C8.

[Edit: Hmm... http://www.autoweek.com/art...7/carnews/100319875]

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Interesting, I would personally like to see it happen! Immagine 10 years down the road, when a few have been in accidents and such, what a junk yard / engine swap find that would be!!!!

On another note, how could this reporter POSSIBLY skirt around and around the Fiero so much, and not mention it even once?!?!

quote In fact, some of the design cues of the new car will be borrowed from early generations.

Hmmm "Earlier generations"?

quote Adopting a mid-engine layout, rather than the long-running front-engine design, is considered a strong possibility, though it would be a significant engineering shift for GM.

Would it now?

quote Anticipate further cuts in mass for the upcoming remake of Chevy’s halo car.

Hmmm smaller, mid-engine, fiberglass, 2 seater... Hmmmm

very nice.

They should make a mid engine 2 seater commuter car for the masses and keep the corvette a corvette.

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http://www.carlustblog.com/...06/corvette_gtp1.jpg

quote Originally posted by jmbishop: They should make a mid engine 2 seater commuter car for the masses and keep the corvette a corvette.

Now THERE is a novel idea

quote Originally posted by JohnWPB: Interesting, I would personally like to see it happen! Immagine 10 years down the road, when a few have been in accidents and such, what a junk yard / engine swap find that would be!!!!

LOL The car hasn't even come out yet and we are already thinking of swapping the powerplant into a 25 year old car. Too Funny.

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That looks terrible!

So a solstice but mid engine...

Let it happen. It could open new doors as far as engine swaps go.

quote Originally posted by JohnWPB: Now THERE is a novel idea

Seriously though, you don't have many choices here in the US, The last mr2 was small and ugly.


I really wish we could get these cars in the US

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quote Originally posted by jmbishop: I really wish we could get these cars in the US

Speaking of small and ugly...

The concept of the Corvette being rear mid-engine has been tossed around for over 40 years. Keep in mind that GM internally cannot make up their minds either. There have been high level debates on exactly this topic for as long as there have been rumors. I would take any talk with a grain so salt. I worked on the C6, and Z06 programs. I know about these discussions from internal sources. Again, I would not hold my breath.

I heard a rumor that the AFM can't be used with the divorced engine/trans setup of the Vette. Something about vibrations from the 4 cyl mod. I don't know is this is true but with MPG always being discussed I see it as a possibility.

quote Originally posted by Xyster: I heard a rumor that the AFM can't be used with the divorced engine/trans setup of the Vette. Something about vibrations from the 4 cyl mod. I don't know is this is true but with MPG always being discussed I see it as a possibility.

I don't know about vibration being an issue. There's a lot of vibration in the modded Vettes that have very large cams and such, as well. I would suspect perhaps something more related to torque. And the aerodynamics of the Vette, make AFM a bit less of a need there, unlike in the trucks, sedans, and the Camaro. And there's also the top-end sports car image issue as well. They might not put it in the Vette simply because it is a Vette.

Whatever they build it has to be under 15K for any of us to consider it.

well - I guess it comes down to:

want the 'vette to be
a) competitive or b) american

quote Originally posted by Pyrthian: well - I guess it comes down to: want the 'vette to be a) competitive or b) american

It is not an either/or choice. The Corvette is world class right now:

https://www.fiero.nl/forum/Forum6/HTML/085820.html

Why radically change a car that is already competitive and winning?


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quote Originally posted by Pyrthian: well - I guess it comes down to: want the 'vette to be a) competitive or b) american

c) under six figure price tag...

I've owned a '97 and have had friends that have owned various ones to 2008.

They are all junk.
They look great in your garage but take them out in the rain and they leak like sieves and develop more electrical problems than an MG.

Your trunk floods and shorts out the computer that controls your suspension and then the car limits you to 79mph. So don't be afraid to have your 4cyl Fiero step up to a 97+ Vette on the highway, you'll most likely pull on him starting at 80mph.

quote Originally posted by lou_dias: I've owned a '97 and have had friends that have owned various ones to 2008. They are all junk. They look great in your garage but take them out in the rain and they leak like sieves and develop more electrical problems than an MG. Your trunk floods and shorts out the computer that controls your suspension and then the car limits you to 79mph. So don't be afraid to have your 4cyl Fiero step up to a 97+ Vette on the highway, you'll most likely pull on him starting at 80mph.

I'm gonna have to call BS on this. If only because I live in Southeastern VA, where it rains all the time, and everyone and their 3 brothers and both sisters have a C5 or C6 Vette.

edit: Doh, comment relating to other thread. Forgot this wasn't the LSx thread.

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I think i am in love....

You can't make the engine smaller and still get the same customers. Ford had to go back to the 5.0 just cause fanboys get so used to having the moniker. Corvette buyers buy them because of the big engines. That's why they're different from the Euro cars. Now they want to turn it into what it isn't and away from what it is, which is what the owners love and know it for.

Make a new car and market it as a supercar that competes with the likes. GM just wants the Corvette to be the top of their line no matter what. Imagine if they came up with an actual supercar instead and actually creates a new legendary car.

the Fiero will never be again due to it is a Pontiac and they are no longer . sure they can build a mid engine corvette but it would still be out of my price range where a real fiero was a inexpensive sports car about half the price of a vett and in my price range

if they do make a corvette mid engined... that pretty much seals that GM discontinued the Fiero over it being better than the Corvette! Case closed!

quote Originally posted by GT86FASTBACK: I think i am in love....

Murci + F430 + Esprit + C6 nose doesn't really do it for me. The Corvette Indy and Stingray III were much sexier. Especially the Stingray.

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You could get a rear engine corvette in the late 90's.....



This kit plus a Fiero plus about $15,000 in parts and you have a mid engine fiero that would EAT any corvette on the road in speed and handling.

Plus you were still much less than the price of a corvette performance model.

Let's just hope they concentrate on the Corvette's quality issues. I had a C5, and it had more problems than my 27 year old Fiero. Ever had a steering column lock up on you? Tons of electrical gremlins? Things just fall off the car? Last new GM car I ever bought. And I'm still bitter.