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I found a very odd air vent system in an 84 the other day. by pontiackid86
Started on: 10-26-2010 08:41 PM
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The car i found in the yard was a non A/C car and it had one of the wierdest venting systems i have ever seen. I wasent able to grab any pics of it but right next to the right of the steering wheel console kind of right under the pod's corner were to push & pull lines kind of like a tractor choke but there was 2 of them , One said right vent the other said left vent and when you pulled either one of them it sounded like a flap would open and close inside the dash when they were pulled/pushed. I'v never owned a non AC car so I dont know if this was standered on non AC cars or now but can anyone tell me somting about it. I think it was factory because it was in there very well.
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Report this Post10-26-2010 08:46 PM Click Here to See the Profile for SynthesisSend a Private Message to SynthesisDirect Link to This Post
Yes. That is factory on the non-AC cars. The front panel under the hood is flat as well, and does not provide room for an AC Evaporator...
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Report this Post10-26-2010 08:48 PM Click Here to See the Profile for lurtzSend a Private Message to lurtzDirect Link to This Post
That is stock for a non AC car. When the cables are pulled towards the driver the fresh air comes in. With the sunroof cracked open on the interstate the air moves in and out quite nicely. Makes not having AC bearable. (As long as you are still moving at a high rate of speed)
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Synthesis you beat me to it...... haha i had my message typed out but i entered the wrong password... had to type it all over again.
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Also to add when the vents are open the air comes out into the footwells. The Driver/Passenger option is great for a usually warm driver and a passenger that is always cold (guess how I know)
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Report this Post10-26-2010 09:01 PM Click Here to See the Profile for pontiackid86Send a Private Message to pontiackid86Direct Link to This Post
I kinds wish the non Ac ones had this to. That would be pretty cool on long hot drives.
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Report this Post10-26-2010 09:12 PM Click Here to See the Profile for DflintSend a Private Message to DflintDirect Link to This Post
this was only in the 84's right?
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Report this Post10-26-2010 09:12 PM Click Here to See the Profile for HockadaySend a Private Message to HockadayDirect Link to This Post
my fiero doesn't have ac...i can't find those on mine. its an 86.
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Report this Post10-26-2010 09:24 PM Click Here to See the Profile for fierofrenzySend a Private Message to fierofrenzyDirect Link to This Post
Wow, I could dig this feature in my Fiero(s). Both my 87' & 88 have AC units that I hardly ever use. Can the units be removed and this feature be installed ?
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quote
Originally posted by Dflint:

this was only in the 84's right?


It must have been. The one i saw was in an 84 and it had no A/C if its still there next time i''l grab it to do some research on it.
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Report this Post10-26-2010 09:30 PM Click Here to See the Profile for DflintSend a Private Message to DflintDirect Link to This Post
yeah pk cause i have an 85 and it does not have ac soooo im just wondering if im really missing something lol
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Report this Post10-26-2010 10:04 PM Click Here to See the Profile for bowrapennocksDirect Link to This Post
My 87 w/o AC did not have these.
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Report this Post10-26-2010 10:14 PM Click Here to See the Profile for lurtzDirect Link to This Post
Both my 84 non AC cars have this vent system. Maybe it is just the 84s non AC.... My first 84 SE had AC but no vent system. I think it would be pretty simple to just take the heater/hvac assembly unit out of a nonAC 84 along with the HVAC control panel and vent cables you could retrofit a later fiero. But if you would lose AC if your car originally had it.
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Yes this is only on 84's w/o A/C. I don't know why it was not available on later models but the holes are available in the chassis and just plugged with plastic inserts. It draws air from the cowl/wiper area same as the HVAC system. If someone wants to see the holes they can be seen by removing the speakers in the dash and pulling back the insulation right under the windshield.

I have a pair of these vents saved from a parts car and I plan on adding the vent to the drivers side on both of my cars. The vent won't fit on the passenger side if you have A/C as the heater core portion of the HVAC box interferes with where the vent needs to go.

After typing this response I recalled discussing this topic before. Below is a copy of my post from THIS thread.

This is what operates the vents. It is located below the gauge pod on the right side.



There are two cables. One long one for the passenger side and a shorter one for the drivers side.



This is one of the vents showing the side which mounts to the chassis



This is the other vent with the "deflector" removed to show how it opens up to let air through



This is simply the "deflector." I really don't know what to call it I named it the deflector because it looks like it is supposed to deflect the air down towards your feet.



Then this is the best picture I could come up with showing where they mount to the chassis. This was my parts cars and as you can see I cut off the windshield and I actually cut off the top portion of the holes where the vents go. The holes are really close to the bottom of the windshield and allow the vents to draw air from the front cowl area where the windshield wiper linkage is.

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Yes, It is only on 84's. I could have sworn I saw those two buttons on 84's with A/C, too. Only on the higher model SE's though, I think.

Edit: Darn it, I was beat to the punch!

Edit Edit: And I'm wrong, too!

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Originally posted by mattwa:

Yes, It is only on 84's. I could have sworn I saw those two buttons on 84's with A/C, too. Only on the higher model SE's though, I think.



I dunno because my IMSA would have them if that be the case.
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Originally posted by pontiackid86:
I dunno because my IMSA would have them if that be the case.


Yea, I'm most likely wrong then. Disregard my previous post, Jefrysuko beat me to the punch on this one.
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Report this Post10-27-2010 01:08 AM Click Here to See the Profile for doublec4Send a Private Message to doublec4Direct Link to This Post
I would have loved this option... I have an AC car with the AC no longer installed... some extra airflow on those hot summer days would be ideal
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Report this Post10-27-2010 01:10 AM Click Here to See the Profile for pontiackid86Send a Private Message to pontiackid86Direct Link to This Post
I think im gona pull that out of the 84 i found... I might see about putting at least the driverside into my IMSA because i removed the A/C
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(+) to Jefrysuko for posting all that... I never knew that quirk about the '84!.... thanks sir!
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Originally posted by pontiackid86:

I kinds wish the non Ac ones had this to. That would be pretty cool on long hot drives.


I remember those vents on my old non-AC Nova. At highway speeds, the airflow through them made it like sitting in a wind tunnel!

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so im thinking im going to find a pair of these and put them in my car
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Report this Post10-27-2010 10:44 PM Click Here to See the Profile for pontiackid86Send a Private Message to pontiackid86Direct Link to This Post
 
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Originally posted by Dflint:

so im thinking im going to find a pair of these and put them in my car



X2 for my IMSA at leas on the driverside... i already know where one is though possabley 2.

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Originally posted by css9450:

I remember those vents on my old non-AC Nova. At highway speeds, the airflow through them made it like sitting in a wind tunnel!


Yep, my 75 Chevy truck has vents similar to this in the kick panels. They make driving the truck in the summer heat bearable but only if your going at least 30 MPH. You also have to think ahead as there is no reaching the passenger one from the drivers seat.
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Report this Post10-27-2010 11:00 PM Click Here to See the Profile for DflintSend a Private Message to DflintDirect Link to This Post
but my 85 w/o ac has these slots yes?
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I like it on my 84s. It is really only noticeable around 40 mph and beyond. It is good on the highway though. Its like having the windows cracked a few inches but without the wind noise. Helps to have the sunroof up. Not to highjack the post but can anyone answer if it is bad to have the vents open while driving through Heavy rain? Will water enter the cabin or worse just inside the dash? I've always wondered. I dont tend to drive mine in the rain so I havent had the chance to test this.
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quote
Originally posted by Dflint:

but my 85 w/o ac has these slots yes?


According to what others have posted, the general concensus is that this was only in 84s with no-ac

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Report this Post10-27-2010 11:10 PM Click Here to See the Profile for DflintSend a Private Message to DflintDirect Link to This Post
well i guess i mean .. can this be put in? ik it doesnt have any of the other stuff but is there a closed area in the cabin i can open up to put these in?
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Originally posted by Dflint:

well i guess i mean .. can this be put in? ik it doesnt have any of the other stuff but is there a closed area in the cabin i can open up to put these in?



Ohh.. Gotcha now.. Sorry bout that. It's a good question. What year was the parts car that Jefrysuko posted?
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cause my 85 cabin gets HOT! lol and it would be nice for the air flow
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Report this Post10-27-2010 11:38 PM Click Here to See the Profile for JefrysukoSend a Private Message to JefrysukoDirect Link to This Post
The parts car was an 84 Econo model without A/C. Where do you think I got the vents from?

I stated above but it probably wasn't that clear. ALL Fieros have the holes for these vents and they are plugged with plastic inserts which can be removed. I believe that the studs for mounting the vents are even there.

I am going to add these vents to my 86 SE and my 88 GT both of which have A/C. I'm only going to put them on the drivers side because the HVAC box in A/C cars is in the way on the passenger side.
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well i wish i could find a pair of these
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