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Report this Post10-21-2010 04:00 PM Click Here to See the Profile for JordanStache87GtClick Here to Email JordanStache87GtSend a Private Message to JordanStache87GtDirect Link to This Post
Hi there!

My name is Jordan and i currently own a 87Gt basket case

i hail from Wisconsin and i see there is a thread for other wisconsin members too!

I have been a floater of sorts for a few months but never made an account untill recently to ask a few q's about my Fiero and its driveability problems.

some days it will run fine for hours on end and then the next day or a few after it will crank over, go into 1st gear and then die as i exit my driveway onto the highway.
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Report this Post10-21-2010 04:28 PM Click Here to See the Profile for twofatguysClick Here to Email twofatguysSend a Private Message to twofatguysDirect Link to This Post
Welcome to the madness.

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welcome to the forum. Post any questions and I am sure you will get the answer that you seek.

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Report this Post10-21-2010 04:54 PM Click Here to See the Profile for FieroRumorClick Here to visit FieroRumor's HomePageClick Here to Email FieroRumorSend a Private Message to FieroRumorDirect Link to This Post
Welcome to the forum (watch out for that Brad guy, though - he's a freakin' lunatic!*)

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Welcome aboard! You WILL get sucked into the madness.


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Cato Falls is next to Whitelaw, Wi, home of Wienerfest!



http://www.whitelawsausage.net/

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Report this Post10-21-2010 05:16 PM Click Here to See the Profile for phonedawgzClick Here to visit phonedawgz's HomePageClick Here to Email phonedawgzSend a Private Message to phonedawgzDirect Link to This Post
So when it stalls does it start up right away or?

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Welcome to the forum

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Originally posted by 86soon3.4:

Welcome aboard! You WILL get sucked into the madness.


Steve


I second that. I also started here "just for questions"...HA. That lasted all the way through my first thread Welcome home Jordan, welcome home. You'll find that this is not one of those forums where you need to watch what you ask. Everyone here is genuinely nice and understanding.
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Report this Post10-21-2010 09:17 PM Click Here to See the Profile for Rick 88Send a Private Message to Rick 88Direct Link to This Post
Welcome Jordan,

A basket case is a hard way to start with any car, but you will get a lot of help here!
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Report this Post10-21-2010 09:35 PM Click Here to See the Profile for JonesySend a Private Message to JonesyDirect Link to This Post
give your car a good look over, and test things out and describe your cars symptoms to us, and we will help you any way we can. Is your car throwing any codes at you? Does it run fine usually, but sometimes, seemingly random, does it just die? could be the ignition module..
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Welcome. You'll soon find another...and another.....and another. When folks find out you like them you'll hear about all kinds of them people want to unload!

Okay but seriously guys (and gals!), we need to help our new friend solve this problem.

Is your car an automatic or manual? Any certain condition that is consistent when this happens or is it just random? Does it run rough at any time close to when it stalls? Does it restart right away, or do you have to wait a while for it to restart? Do you get a check engine light?

Its early to guess, but if it has to cool before it restarts, ignition coil or module are the first two things I'd check (regardless of whether its automatic or manual). It hopefully is something very simple, but need a little more info. I had an 86 GT automatic that would stall at stoplights and it was a simple switch causing all the fuss. Sometimes its the little things that cause the most frustration.

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Welcome Jordan. Enjoy the ride of owning a Fiero...

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Report this Post10-22-2010 01:36 AM Click Here to See the Profile for JordanStache87GtClick Here to Email JordanStache87GtSend a Private Message to JordanStache87GtDirect Link to This Post
Thank you all for the warm welcome on this EXTREMELY chilly night

when my car stalls it will start up right away most of the time even when it is to normal operation temperatures.

It only does it when i shift into 1st gear so i was thinking it could be a remote possibility that the Neutral safety switch is somehow fragging out?

It DID die on me today however at about 65mph in 4th gear and the Tachometer died like it does when the car gets shut off.

Also i found a video on youtube that took forever to load on my Dialup but it showed me how to check for codes and my computer says nada, just the code 12?
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Report this Post10-22-2010 10:56 AM Click Here to See the Profile for Acapulco85GTClick Here to Email Acapulco85GTSend a Private Message to Acapulco85GTDirect Link to This Post
Both my fiero and turbocoupe have had problems similar both cases of them not starting up and cuting out almost die in first gear ended up being my ignition module , dont go just buy one though get one from a junkyard car and you will need some silicon or lithium grease to put between the contacts. Like i said thats the only problem ive had with my car starting up and dieing. hoped this helped some

And I didnt get a code for this issue when it happened and code 12 is system normal

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BLOOD IN BLOOD OUT !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!welcome 123 carl
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Originally posted by JordanStache87Gt:


It only does it when i shift into 1st gear so i was thinking it could be a remote possibility that the Neutral safety switch is somehow fragging out?



The neutral safety switch does nothing after the car is started. Only prevents the car from cranking if not in park or neutral.

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Cato Falls is next to Whitelaw, Wi, home of Wienerfest!



http://www.whitelawsausage.net/


Aaahhhh.....That's sad. Poor little weiner.

Welcome to the crazies!
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If when the problem happens, the tach dies before the engine stops turning then you have a problem with the ignition. The two very most likely things are the pick up coil (inside the distributor) and the ICM (Ignition Control Module) also inside the distributor. The ICM can be tested at the local parts store (they will have a tester for it). The pick up coil can be tested with an ohm meter.



If the pick up coil is bad the distributor will need to be removed to replace the coil. There are videos on Youtube under buddycraigg on how to do it. The engine will need to be re-timed after the coil is replaced. If you do pull the distributor, replace the o-ring on the base of the distributor or you will have oil leaking out under pressure there. You WILL need to re-time the car with a timing light after replacing the pick up coil

The distributor needs to be removed ONLY if the pick up coil TESTS bad. If the coil tests good leave the distributor undisturbed.

When replacing the ICM you need to use "thermal paste" under it or the ICM will burn out in no time. Most on the forum recommend DELCO or DELPHI ICM's only. The distributor does not need to be removed to replace the ICM.
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Originally posted by phonedawgz:

If when the problem happens, the tach dies before the engine stops turning then you have a problem with the ignition. The two very most likely things are the pick up coil (inside the distributor) and the ICM (Ignition Control Module) also inside the distributor. The ICM can be tested at the local parts store (they will have a tester for it). The pick up coil can be tested with an ohm meter.



If the pick up coil is bad the distributor will need to be removed to replace the coil. There are videos on Youtube under buddycraigg on how to do it. The engine will need to be re-timed after the coil is replaced. If you do pull the distributor, replace the o-ring on the base of the distributor or you will have oil leaking out under pressure there. You WILL need to re-time the car with a timing light after replacing the pick up coil

The distributor needs to be removed ONLY if the pick up coil TESTS bad. If the coil tests good leave the distributor undisturbed.

When replacing the ICM you need to use "thermal paste" under it or the ICM will burn out in no time. Most on the forum recommend DELCO or DELPHI ICM's only. The distributor does not need to be removed to replace the ICM.


Good advice. If you take the distributor out and it looks rusty or bad in any way, if you can swing it sometimes its best to just replace the whole thing. Also be very careful about putting it back in. You wouldn't believe the terrible oily mess a fifty cent o-ring can make if it fails.

I sure hope you can get your issue narrowed down. Sometimes its the little problems that cause the most headaches.

Oh, also if you want a card with a "cheat sheet" of codes, send me your mailing address by private message and I'll mail you one compliments of Mid America Fieros.

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