was just wondering what the quality was like and how well the overall install went.

quote Originally posted by FieroFinatic: was just wondering what the quality was like and how well the overall install went.

I have seen them Doug has them at the Swap meet and Daytona..Does things right!!
Great Fiero person.

I purchased nose number four from Doug. The big discussion is not between the quality of the work but styles. The one being sold by Fiero1Fan is slightly different. But I think it's a matter of personal preferrence. I've modified mine slightly to get it to fit my personal style and preferrences, but the quality is top-notch. The same guy who does the fiberglass work for Doug also custom made my lip spoiler. Excellent work. I lost most of my pictures when my computer crashed, but here's a recent thread. The nose is not in it's finial finished position. Things are just kind of laid on the car to see how they look.

https://www.fiero.nl/forum/Forum1/HTML/063901.html

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'88 Ferrario
'84 Indy (8/26/06)

Relax! You've managed to suck all of the fun out of the room.

Any more info on that lip spoiler or other pics, I think that its the way to go on a fastback. Very understated but makes the lines of the car

The disadvantage (designwise) of the Fiero Warehouse F355 nose to me is its length, the abrupt change in angle from hood to nose and the loss of the black molding that runs along the side of the car (looks less integrated with the rest of the Fiero).

But then again, I have never seen it in person...

I cannot say anything about the style of the F355 front end as I have not had one, But the quality of the fiberglass work at Fiero Warehouse is excellent. The fiberglass items I have bought (side scoop and IMSA spoiler) were excellent quality. The side scoop panels were a prefect fit and came "readt-to-paint".

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quote Originally posted by Oreif: I cannot say anything about the style of the F355 front end as I have not had one, But the quality of the fiberglass work at Fiero Warehouse is excellent. The fiberglass items I have bought (side scoop and IMSA spoiler) were excellent quality. The side scoop panels were a prefect fit and came "readt-to-paint".

Ditto !!!!!

I haven't seen the part in question here but I've seen the quality of their glass & it's very good.

Archie

Here's a couple pics of one of Fierowarehouse's 355 nose being installed by a recent customer down around Huntington, WV.

He opted to mold the nose into the fenders, which looks like it worked pretty well.










You have to remember, there are very few aftermarket fiberglass parts that are "plug and play".

Some fitting and finishing WILL be required with just about any aftermarket fiberglass part you buy.

The "Big Boys" like Lund and Ecklers, have and use steel molds as a rule, and spend big bucks on the tooling and procedures, so their parts are close to being bolt on out of the box, but you STILL will have to sand, prep and paint them before you use them, even if they appear perfect.

I've not seen the German made nose, so really can't speak to it's overall quality, fit and finish. As a rule, the Germans do outstanding work, and I have no reason to believe the German 355 nose doesn't fit that bill. I do remember someone, (in the Netherlands maybe?) having issues with the fit, but as I understand it, there are major steps being taken to remedy that problem. Even if the nose comes out of the mold perfect, (ANY nose), there ARE going to be slight variances with each car. Panel alignment differences being the main one. The 355 nose we make is from a mold that came from Twin Lakes Fieros, and I don't think they made the mold either, they got it from Denny Patton, is what I was told. I can't verify that, so take it with a grain of salt. I DO know that I spent a week working on the mold after Doug dropped it off to me, and it makes good parts. The fit is always going to be questionable, how much, will depend on who's putting it on. The angle from the fenders to the nose is pretty much controlled by how you mount the nose. If you support the bottom properly, it will appear nearly factory. I leave the edges long on the inside corner where the fender will butt up against the nose, so SOME grinding is going to be needed. This is done to allow for the variances in individual cars, and leave some slack for inexperienced installers. The man that installed the nose in the pics above, used braces underneath made from 1/2" electrical conduit, with the ends flattened about 3" in and holes drilled, one end slotted, so he could "adjust" the angle to his liking. Looks to me like he got it right.

The advantage I see to the German design, is the retention of the factory marker light. This also could be remedied in the nose we produce by someone with limited glass skills and some patience. We decided not to change the mold, as it is a tedious process, would take the mold out of service and take more time than I have at present to devote to doing it. There may be a new mold made at some point, but that's not a sure thing, and would be far in the future if at all.

I won't say buy one over the other. I won't say one is better than the other. I will say that Dougs is MADE IN THE USA and costs allot less to get to your door, even WITH shipping! Fiberglass is fiberglass. If it's good quality materials and done properly, the end result is more up to the installer, than the part you start with. This is in no way intended to be a cut to the German piece, just my observations and opinion, which as far as I know, I'm still entitled to and allowed to express.

HAGO!

One of the cars that Twin Lakes did a few years back.
The molds did come from Denny Patton in Florida. I was at Twin Lakes when the boxes arrived and helped unpack them.

Second photo.



The car was delivered to its owner who lived on Long Island.

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quote Originally posted by Sage: The 355 nose we make is from a mold that came from Twin Lakes Fieros, and I don't think they made the mold either, they got it from Denny Patton, is what I was told. I can't verify that, so take it with a grain of salt.

I can verify this. I was working with Denny Patton's Website at the time, and remember when he sold them. Twin Lakes contacted me about the site soon after buying the molds from him.

I can also verify the quality of Fiero Warehouse fiberglass. It's worlds better then a lot of the other stuff I've seen. Hell, it's worlds better then a few pieces I have purchased. Goof stuff.

Old Lar and smartaxel:

Thanks for the input and verification!

I've dealt with some of the things Denny did with the IRM molds, that I'd rather not talk about, all good now after some time and elbow grease, but the 355 nose mold IS a good mold. It's even better now than when we got hold of it.

Thanks guys.

HAGO!

You don't have any more pics of that car, do you?

quote Originally posted by Old Lar: One of the cars that Twin Lakes did a few years back. The molds did come from Denny Patton in Florida. I was at Twin Lakes when the boxes arrived and helped unpack them.

As long as we're at it, I've been wondering what the difference in quality between the Fierowarehouse ($400) and PISA's EuroFascia ($425)?



"The EuroFascia replaces the stock bumper. A variety of side markers can be used. Front louvres are available separately. You will need to fabricate brackets to support the bottom edge of the bumper.

The EuroFascia (fiberglass bumper only) is $425.00 plus approximately $100.00 for shipping in the contiguous US. An optional front grill kit ($125.00) is also available. A variety of side markers and aftermarket fog lights may be used. Turn signals are from the 1997-2000 Chrysler Sebring coupe."

I'll just respond for everyones information. I'm not affiliated with any vendor and it is obviously a matter of individual taste.

There is no such thing as a "German 355 nose". There are three or four varieties which seem to have originated from one design at some point. I have seen at least 3 versions that are all subtly different. What they have in common is that they are shorter than the "US nose", at the same angle as the hood and keep the side molding. I like that look as I think that the Fiero looks too long in the front already for a mid-engined car.

But "my" nose has its small imperfections, look here: https://www.fiero.nl/forum/A...041015-1-037195.html

quote Originally posted by Sage: I've not seen the German made nose, so really can't speak to it's overall quality, fit and finish. As a rule, the Germans do outstanding work, and I have no reason to believe the German 355 nose doesn't fit that bill. I do remember someone, (in the Netherlands maybe?) having issues with the fit, but as I understand it, there are major steps being taken to remedy that problem. Even if the nose comes out of the mold perfect, (ANY nose), there ARE going to be slight variances with each car. Panel alignment differences being the main one. The 355 nose we make is from a mold that came from Twin Lakes Fieros, and I don't think they made the mold either, they got it from Denny Patton, is what I was told. I can't verify that, so take it with a grain of salt. I DO know that I spent a week working on the mold after Doug dropped it off to me, and it makes good parts. The fit is always going to be questionable, how much, will depend on who's putting it on. The angle from the fenders to the nose is pretty much controlled by how you mount the nose. If you support the bottom properly, it will appear nearly factory. I leave the edges long on the inside corner where the fender will butt up against the nose, so SOME grinding is going to be needed. This is done to allow for the variances in individual cars, and leave some slack for inexperienced installers. The man that installed the nose in the pics above, used braces underneath made from 1/2" electrical conduit, with the ends flattened about 3" in and holes drilled, one end slotted, so he could "adjust" the angle to his liking. Looks to me like he got it right. The advantage I see to the German design, is the retention of the factory marker light. This also could be remedied in the nose we produce by someone with limited glass skills and some patience. We decided not to change the mold, as it is a tedious process, would take the mold out of service and take more time than I have at present to devote to doing it. There may be a new mold made at some point, but that's not a sure thing, and would be far in the future if at all. I won't say buy one over the other. I won't say one is better than the other. I will say that Dougs is MADE IN THE USA and costs allot less to get to your door, even WITH shipping! Fiberglass is fiberglass. If it's good quality materials and done properly, the end result is more up to the installer, than the part you start with. This is in no way intended to be a cut to the German piece, just my observations and opinion, which as far as I know, I'm still entitled to and allowed to express.

quote By Yellowstone There is no such thing as a "German 355 nose".

355 nose, Made in Germany , I'd say it's a German 355 nose . I realize there are probably several different people who make them over there. There are more than one here. Since I don't know who made the ones pictured, but they perportedly came from Germany, I guess I went generic. It's a 355 nose, made in Germany, therefore it constituted a "German 355 nose" TO ME.

Didn't mean to ruffle anybody's feathers, just trying to input to the original question by the original poster.

Word.

No feathers ruffled, my post was just for clarification...

quote Originally posted by Sage: 355 nose, Made in Germany , I'd say it's a German 355 nose . I realize there are probably several different people who make them over there. There are more than one here. Since I don't know who made the ones pictured, but they perportedly came from Germany, I guess I went generic. It's a 355 nose, made in Germany, therefore it constituted a "German 355 nose" TO ME. Didn't mean to ruffle anybody's feathers, just trying to input to the original question by the original poster. Word.

Cool!

HAGO!

quote Originally posted by Sage: Didn't mean to ruffle anybody's feathers,

Was that supposed to be a duck joke? j/k

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'87 GT Auto
'88 Ferrario
'84 Indy (8/26/06)

Relax! You've managed to suck all of the fun out of the room.

Hey Yellowstone ! What driving/fog lights did you use in the front? The Hella 90mm's like in Fierofan1's headlight bucket upgrade?

quote Originally posted by yellowstone: What they have in common is that they are shorter than the "US nose", at the same angle as the hood and keep the side molding. I like that look as I think that the Fiero looks too long in the front already for a mid-engined car.

With all it's "imperfections" I think Yellowstone's german nose looks better than the US longer versions. I haven't seen it in person, but it looks like it belongs there.

No, these are Carello lights (additional high beams). I use the Hella 90 mm modules for my headlights. The foglights are from a Mk. II Ford Scorpio.

quote Originally posted by rjblaze: Hey Yellowstone ! What driving/fog lights did you use in the front? The Hella 90mm's like in Fierofan1's headlight bucket upgrade?

Just thought I'd post a couple pics of the car pictured above in my first post, after he finished it the way he wanted.






I think he did a very nice job, and his car looks great.

Am seriously considering doing a couple mods to one of these noses, (adding recess to accept side trim, and some "tweaking" to the overall general shape and size), and doing a new mold, to reflect the changes, but need to get caught up on current orders first!

Just thought someone might enjoy seeing the nose in more of a finished state than the primered pics I posted above.

HAGO!

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Bump..

How many "German" style 355 noses ended up in the US ?

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Dedicated owner of an 88 Fiero GT

The original post is old, but if anyone wants a 355-style facia, Rob Amida's has to be considered. I have only heard great things about Rob's work.

quote Originally posted by Amida: Some finishing touches. Fabbed a batch of grills & finally mounted the grill onto the new nose. I like the Pontiac arrowhead on the grill; it cleans-up the valance & makes for easier washing. .

Bob

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I forget, what turn signals are used on the Twin Lakes/Fiero Warehouse fascia? Sebring? If so, what year? Thanks.

Edit: Nevermind. Found it. 97-00 Sebring. I just went ahead and ordered some clear lenses for my front fascia.

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i have one fom the fiero whearhouse its not on it yet buts its survived my garage for the past few months so id say its good quality.

quote Originally posted by Sage: Here's a couple pics of one of Fierowarehouse's 355 nose being installed by a recent customer down around Huntington, WV.

That looks really good with the fenders blended into the front fascia. The hood molded in as well, fenders cut halfway up with a flip front would be perfect. That's why I want to do it. Photoshop anyone?

quote Originally posted by Unsafe At Any Speed: I forget, what turn signals are used on the Twin Lakes/Fiero Warehouse fascia? Sebring? If so, what year? Thanks. Edit: Nevermind. Found it. 97-00 Sebring. I just went ahead and ordered some clear lenses for my front fascia.

if you got them off of jdm king or whatever the hell his name is on ebay watch hime we orderd a set and never got them ended up getting a set of amber ones from a junk yard.

quote Originally posted by pontiackid86: [QUOTE]Originally posted by Unsafe At Any Speed: I forget, what turn signals are used on the Twin Lakes/Fiero Warehouse fascia? Sebring? If so, what year? Thanks. Edit: Nevermind. Found it. 97-00 Sebring. I just went ahead and ordered some clear lenses for my front fascia.

if you got them off of jdm king or whatever the hell his name is on ebay watch hime we orderd a set and never got them ended up getting a set of amber ones from a junk yard.
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Thanks for the heads up. Mine are from somebody else and I got notice today that they were shipped. So if they don't show soon, I'll open a dispute with PayPal.

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I actually ordered one from Doug, and was quite happy with the quality, however I didn't really like the angles of the fit. I Ordered one from Timo and found the fit more to my liking. As with most fiberglass products, it needed some fit and finish and a few mods, but overall very high quality. Shipping was brutal however.



PS Timo is FieroFan1

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Ohhh.. hello twin brother


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