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Stabilizer axle bearing seals by ricksmastermix
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I recently installed these units in place of the standard axle seals. I used a loc-tite sealant when I installed the units per the directions. The car sat for a few weeks while I did an engine swap and after I started the engine and drove the car into the driveway to wash it, I noticed what looked like trans fluid leaking on the ground. So, I put the car back in the garage, refilled the tranny fluid and put a large sheet of cardboard under the engine cradle to see where the leak was coming from. Nothing....

Is it normal for these seals to leak at first and then seal up? I checked all the other fluid levels (Oil, brake & clutch) to make sure they were good.
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Originally posted by ricksmastermix:

I recently installed these units in place of the standard axle seals. I used a loc-tite sealant when I installed the units per the directions. The car sat for a few weeks while I did an engine swap and after I started the engine and drove the car into the driveway to wash it, I noticed what looked like trans fluid leaking on the ground. So, I put the car back in the garage, refilled the tranny fluid and put a large sheet of cardboard under the engine cradle to see where the leak was coming from. Nothing....

Is it normal for these seals to leak at first and then seal up? I checked all the other fluid levels (Oil, brake & clutch) to make sure they were good.


Mine always leaked. I replaced a couple of sets trying get them to stop and I couldn't find a better seal. I removed the bearings from one car and might on this one. I wouldn't have put them on in the first place but both trans had them.

Maybe someone's had better luck. Are your seal the solid black ones?
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The bearing stabilizers were on my car when I bought it and, yes, they leaked. I replaced the seals and they still leaked. Determined that leak was coming from around the outside of the stabilizer housing. I pulled them and used anaerobic sealer which helped, but they still leak somewhat. I'm just going to live with it. The stabilizers are extremely difficult to remove or install while the trans is in the car. If you find a good way to remove them please let me know.
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Originally posted by gtoformula:

The bearing stabilizers were on my car when I bought it and, yes, they leaked. I replaced the seals and they still leaked. Determined that leak was coming from around the outside of the stabilizer housing. I pulled them and used anaerobic sealer which helped, but they still leak somewhat. I'm just going to live with it. The stabilizers are extremely difficult to remove or install while the trans is in the car. If you find a good way to remove them please let me know.


I just took a close look at mine again. The problem is the bearing moves the seal out so it is now trying to seal against a spot on the shaft that isn't machined. I never noticed that before. That's my problem. I am going to fashion an inside puller I can attach to my slide hammer to get the bearings out. I expect to have to use copious amounts of sealer around the seal-to-case surface since the bearings are grooved to keep them in. I don't think a new seal or new type of seal will work unless the lip is moved inward to seat on the machined part of the axle. I don't think I will find anything like that.
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I bought an inside bearing puller, but there is no room between the stock bearing and the bearing stabilizer for the puller arms to grab the stabilizer. I don't think that the puller will work, but I'd like to know what you do to pull these stabilizers.
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Originally posted by gtoformula:

I bought an inside bearing puller, but there is no room between the stock bearing and the bearing stabilizer for the puller arms to grab the stabilizer. I don't think that the puller will work, but I'd like to know what you do to pull these stabilizers.


Now that you mention it, yeah - big problem. I am staring at a set of seals for the bearings and wondering it they could be installed backwards to move the seal inward ...

Otherwise this is going to be fun without tearing up the case prying the bearings out.

This is from where I asked this question 6 years ago - Ah how the booze'll fog your mind ...

https://www.fiero.nl/forum/A...090219-2-087023.html

More pondering but something has to change. I am tired of the drips. I'll know more this weekend. I need to search for the thread where someone did remove the bearings in case I need to go in that direction.

Edit: I measured the bearing and we need a blind hole puller that will expand to about 1.5". The HF puller only goes to 1.25". I do have some very small pullers that will fit but they might not hold. One jerk on the hammer and I am committed. I will wreck the bearing.

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Edit: I measured the bearing and we need a blind hole puller that will expand to about 1.5". The HF puller only goes to 1.25". I do have some very small pullers that will fit but they might not hold. One jerk on the hammer and I am committed. I will wreck the bearing.



Tack weld a large nut to a large washer and the washer to the bearing housing - then use a slide hammer.
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Any pictures of these things?
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Any pictures of these things?


http://rodneydickman.com/ca...h=28&products_id=268
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Now that you mention it, yeah - big problem. I am staring at a set of seals for the bearings and wondering it they could be installed backwards to move the seal inward ...

Otherwise this is going to be fun without tearing up the case prying the bearings out.

This is from where I asked this question 6 years ago - Ah how the booze'll fog your mind ...

https://www.fiero.nl/forum/A...090219-2-087023.html

More pondering but something has to change. I am tired of the drips. I'll know more this weekend. I need to search for the thread where someone did remove the bearings in case I need to go in that direction.

Edit: I measured the bearing and we need a blind hole puller that will expand to about 1.5". The HF puller only goes to 1.25". I do have some very small pullers that will fit but they might not hold. One jerk on the hammer and I am committed. I will wreck the bearing.



You might not wreck the bearing. The bearing housing is a one piece machined casting. I beat the crap out of mine (both getting them out and then pushing them back in) and they are still working fine. Very difficult to install with the trans in the car. I don't like the drips either ... Just tired of messing with them for now.
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You might not wreck the bearing. The bearing housing is a one piece machined casting. I beat the crap out of mine (both getting them out and then pushing them back in) and they are still working fine. Very difficult to install with the trans in the car. I don't like the drips either ... Just tired of messing with them for now.


I am too. This weekend I am going to get it up on jacks and give it a shot (remove them.) We will see. I feel your pain! Of course, they could just fall out too.
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