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Where can I get Full roller rockers? by La fiera
Started on: 02-14-2010 09:44 AM
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Report this Post02-14-2010 09:44 AM Click Here to See the Profile for La fieraSend a Private Message to La fieraDirect Link to This Post
I'm looking for a set of aluminum to buy. What brand are they available and who sells it.

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Report this Post02-14-2010 09:48 AM Click Here to See the Profile for nosracSend a Private Message to nosracDirect Link to This Post
For what engine?
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Report this Post02-14-2010 11:24 AM Click Here to See the Profile for La fieraSend a Private Message to La fieraDirect Link to This Post
 
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Originally posted by nosrac:

For what engine?


2.8 Liter
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Report this Post02-14-2010 12:24 PM Click Here to See the Profile for MountainHiBlue87GTSend a Private Message to MountainHiBlue87GTDirect Link to This Post
Both Crane Cams and Competition Cams make roller rockers for this motor. Crane Cams produces the affordable Magnum Roller Rocker, which I installed, as well as the Gold Race full roller rocker. At twice the price, it offers twice the zoot, using needle bearings for the fulcrum, an aluminum body, and replacement studs (the 2.8 used 10mm vs. the more common 3/8"). The full bearings certainly decrease friction, but the power gains over the Magnum are less obvious as stated here: http://www.4x4wire.com/tech...reeV6/powertrix2.htm
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Report this Post02-14-2010 01:17 PM Click Here to See the Profile for fierosoundClick Here to visit fierosound's HomePageSend a Private Message to fierosoundDirect Link to This Post
Summit Racing
http://www.summitracing.com...yword=roller+rockers
http://www.summitracing.com...yword=roller+rockers

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OR, for $0 , or almost nothing,- you can go to the boneyard & snatch a set off a 3400 v6. been covered here somewhere. I have a set on mine !
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Report this Post02-24-2011 12:53 PM Click Here to See the Profile for lou_diasSend a Private Message to lou_diasDirect Link to This Post
You need "narrow body" rockers.
If you get some with the 3/8 in. Stud Mount then to need the stud mount adapters that are 10mm on one end to mount into the head then 3/8 in. on the other to mount the rocker. I may have the p/n's that I used in my "Project 3400 roller cam" thread...
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Originally posted by Lou6t4gto:

OR, for $0 , or almost nothing,- you can go to the boneyard & snatch a set off a 3400 v6. been covered here somewhere. I have a set on mine !


Those are roller at he pivot but not also roller at the tip... They didn't look like they would mount on iron heads correctly but I could be wrong...
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Report this Post08-28-2011 10:14 AM Click Here to See the Profile for masospaghettiSend a Private Message to masospaghettiDirect Link to This Post
 
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Originally posted by lou_dias:


Those are roller at he pivot but not also roller at the tip... They didn't look like they would mount on iron heads correctly but I could be wrong...


Any more info on the 3400 rocker swap? Does this fit? Any performance benefit?
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Report this Post08-28-2011 04:21 PM Click Here to See the Profile for Arns85GTSend a Private Message to Arns85GTDirect Link to This Post
You want the Scorpion fuller roller , narrow body, center mount 1.6 rockers. You'll want the ARP studs that convert the threads to standard Chevy threads.

http://www.scorpionperformance.com/

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Report this Post08-28-2011 07:54 PM Click Here to See the Profile for jconnor34Send a Private Message to jconnor34Direct Link to This Post
Fiero Store has 'em (or did).
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Report this Post09-02-2011 09:49 AM Click Here to See the Profile for Francis TClick Here to visit Francis T's HomePageSend a Private Message to Francis TDirect Link to This Post
To be cost effective, in my opion, roller rockers are something to consider only if you're building a very high output engine. One with say, a steel crank, forged pistons, wild cam, head work, headers, dif intake and such.

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Report this Post09-02-2011 09:37 PM Click Here to See the Profile for timgrayClick Here to visit timgray's HomePageSend a Private Message to timgrayDirect Link to This Post
 
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Originally posted by lou_dias:

You need "narrow body" rockers.
If you get some with the 3/8 in. Stud Mount then to need the stud mount adapters that are 10mm on one end to mount into the head then 3/8 in. on the other to mount the rocker. I may have the p/n's that I used in my "Project 3400 roller cam" thread...


Exactly this. Most everyone else talking about how you can get them anywhere has not done it. you need Narrow body ones to clear everything, there are not many suppliers and nothing Summit racing sells will fit. Scorpion mentioned above is one of the only ones that fit well and have a decent price.

Been there done that. Gave up and went to stamped roller tips because the gains from full rollers is not worth paying the premium for the correct full rollers. Spend the money elsewhere where it makes a difference. the ONLY reason for roller rockers is a very high lift of the valves, I.E. you are using 1.6 rockers and a very aggressive cam.

Oh and after seeing what happens when a roller rocker comes apart at 5000rpm, I'll never put roller rockers or roller tipped rockers in an engine for the street again. Track where you tear it down a lot and have a racing cam plus insane valve lift? yes. an engine I want to last another 140,000 miles? nope.

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Allot of the benefit of full rollers is lower friction and cooler heads. The engine will rev quicker and higher.

It is not much of an actual hp advantage, but it makes your working rpm wider banded and the engine quicker in response.

Your red line goes up.

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