I tried to hook up my throttle cable the the TB of my 4.9 a while back. The cable was to long, so I thought maybe it had come out of the gas peddle arm. Checked today. The peddle end is fine. The 88 4 cyl cable in my coupe is about an inch to long. I am lookin for a sourch for the little round end for the cable. I have been to every Auto parts house in 20 miles, and my local Po-Dunk Ace Hardware store. The lady at the hardware store needs a job at a candy store in Houston. She doesn't have a clue about hardwware, any hardware at all. Probably married to the owners brother ort something like that!!!
Here is a shot of the 88's cable end

MulletproofMonk was telling me that the one he used had two metal round things on it, and the end one needed to be removed. The closest one to the outside end fit and worked correctly. Mine just had one, not two. I have an extra throttle cable , got it out and looked at it. It is the same as the one in my car now.

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You'll never find one. I've was looking for a year before I gave up.

I found a much simpler solution though. Take a hammer and tap the throttle cable bracket until the slack is out (towards drivers side). Don't go too far with it, you don't want the bracket to hold the cable too tight. I left about 1/16" just to be sure. This also leveled my gas pedal with the brake pedal for easier heel/toe shifting.

EDIT: Use the inner pully (closest to throttle body). Its metal and the cable clips further around it also taking out some of the slack. Make sure to do it with the ISC plunger out of the way.

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The last one I did using the stock 88 4cyl cable I just moved/fabricated the cable mount bracket in the proper position.

Another option would be to find some of these barrel clamps. This particular one has a brass housing with the threaded hole on one end and a wire hole through the center. Slide in the cable and tighten the screw and you have a barrel fitting in the necessary location. This one came with my aftermarket TV cable, but any automotive store or bicycle repair shops should have something similar.

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fieroguru


That was exactly what I was looking for today. They all say that those are no longer sold. I will go to Huntsville tomorrow and see a real parts house there. They have one there. 35 miles each way, so I'll take the wife out to eat too!

If I can't locate on , could you snag me one, and mail it to me here?
Joe

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I tried everyone of those I could find. Not a single one was the right size. If you find a source let me know so I can shorten my cable about 16 inches.

Well I found them at A-Zone in the "Help" isle. ^ Assorted sizes. They were also to large,But I was thinking that I could just put it on the other end. Size would not matter at the gas pedle end.

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Joe
THis is what I did
https://www.fiero.nl/forum/A...041015-2-052836.html
I added some post assembly(i think blue) loctite to make sure the nut doesn't come off. Works great!

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So, I have to ask, why did the one I had have two cylinders on it? Was it because an option was deleted or is that just the way all the 87-88 4 cyl cables were?

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-Brian

My 87 GT Poly Suspension Upgrade (all pics) thread https://www.fiero.nl/forum/Forum2/HTML/094633.html

Brian, I am not sure. I know that I have read that there was a difference between a cruise and a non cruise 87-88 throttle cable. Just can't remember where I read it here now.

What I am trying to find local is wire rope end stop. This is what is on the pedle end of the wire rope inside. If I can locate these, one can just remove the slack, and crimp on a new end:


I have located these at McMaster -Carr, but I don't need a box of 100 1/16"wire rope end stops. I am going to Loews tomorrow to see if they have something like this.

I have also found me a 6mm shoulder bolt. File a small flat, drill a 1/16" hole, cut to the proper length, insert the cable,and crimp on the throttle body end of the cable where I want it to go.

All of the brass pieces I got today from A-Zone are way to large for this purpose.
Joe

Edited to add:
A direct quote from Mickey_Moose's My 4.9 wiring thread right underneath the Speedo information on page one.
"Throttle cable:
the 88 Fiero 2.5l throttle cable (no cruise) is a direct bolt in - these are no longer available new, so you will have to find a used one or crimp an end to your original cable that will fit the 4.9 throttle body."

link:
https://www.fiero.nl/forum/Forum2/HTML/098096.html

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I got all my supplies for my throttle cable at Lowes. If your store doesn't have
them let me know and I'll stop and grab 4-5 and mail them to you. It was a total of a out
5 bucks.

Hmmm, the 88 cables that I have used worked with the stock bracket (had to drill another hole for the lock and do some filing to allow for the larger molded end, but the length was fine).

Now IIRC the cable that is pictured is the cable for use on cars with cruise control - not sure if the difference is in the length, I do know that the molded end is different than the ones I have used.

And as already meantioned, the Help section in auto parts stores or one of the large chain hardware stores should carry the barrel end. You may also try any place that carries aircraft cable and accessories.

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Why not a bicycle shop or an old bicycle? I remember those ends being for bicycle brakes.

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When life gives you lemons, thank them for the Fiero.

quote Originally posted by fierocarparts: Why not a bicycle shop or an old bicycle? I remember those ends being for bicycle brakes.

There are no bicycle shops here where I live. Next time I get in the big city I'll check on some of these. I don't need one just yet. Just trying to get my 'ducks in a row'
Joe

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Well I put all of my throttle cable stuff back on the car today and measured the slack. I was just a little less than 5/8" to much cable.
So
I took my spare cable to the Hardware store and got a bolt the same size as the fitting on the end of the cable:


I filed a flat on the bolts shoulder to center punch a hole on it for the drill bit to bite. I drilled 2 1/16" holes on the shoulder. I wanted to have a spare. Cut to the correct length.

Both throttle bores closed

Both wide open:

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quote Originally posted by josef644:

So did you get this from Lowes? If so do you know the size and/or part number? My local lowes doesn't have them. Neither does Home Depot, ACE, or the local only places. If you have the info I may be able to have them ordered in.

quote Originally posted by Fieroseverywhere: So did you get this from Lowes? If so do you know the size and/or part number? My local lowes doesn't have them. Neither does Home Depot, ACE, or the local only places. If you have the info I may be able to have them ordered in.

No , the one on the left is the factory end, I had it next to the bolt to show it was the same size. I just filed a flat, drilled a hole, cut to off to fit, crimped it on the cable end with a pair of cutters and connected it to the throttle body arm.

I'll post a picture if the cable end I built and installed sometime this weekend.

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GREAT! now clean that engine up nice like mine!!

I turned one down on the lathe and drilled a hole in it just like you did but I wasn't sure a crimp would hold so I brazed the end.

Good Job

Ray

Didn't think of that, but its a good thought. I will try to maybe stick some solder on it. I don't really want to pull this cable outta the car for brazzing.

If you've got oxy-acetylene I'd silbraze it (safety silv 45 or the equivalent). If you take the barrel end loose and remove cable from bracket you should be able to tie it somewhere to make enough room to get a torch in there

quote Originally posted by josef644: No , the one on the left is the factory end, I had it next to the bolt to show it was the same size. I just filed a flat, drilled a hole, cut to off to fit, crimped it on the cable end with a pair of cutters and connected it to the throttle body arm. I'll post a picture if the cable end I built and installed sometime this weekend.

Hmmm. Mine didn't look anything like that. I didn't realize that was factory.

Ok here is the picture I promised yesterday. I have tape on it to try to hold it flat.You can see the factory one,next to it, that I had for an extra.


I have a large flat blade screwdriver with the handle missing. I went back and used it to finish up the staking. It is not gonna come off. I did both sides.

They do not appear to be the same length in the photp, but they are .

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Hurry up Joe!

55 MPH = 1850 RPM

You are going to have a blast when you drive it.

Ray

Rdean I am a mower, and season is just about done for the year. I have to have $XXXX.XX in the bank for Xmas , 8 grand children and taxes due Jan. 2010. I am just about out of playing money. I am about $400.00 short of driving it the first time. Might just have to quit for the season when I finish up the harness and fuel pump. I want to hear it sing for me one time for me before I put it away for the rest of the year.

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Joe that seems like alot of cash. You already have
the engine in and mounted, exhaust? What else do you
have left. It's a great sound to hear it for the first
time. Keep up the great work.

I need a new waterpump housing $40.00, waterpump $50.00, oil pan gasket $28.00, exhaust built and welded up EST $150.00, new battery tray $39.00, Battery $65.00. Rear brakes are not hooked up, and I know that will need something before it is ready to go cause I ain't that lucky. Plus no telling what else. It adds up fast.

Edited to add:
I didn't even think about any of the AC converversion parts I will need to purchase later on. My car will have a working AC.

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quote Originally posted by josef644: I need a new waterpump housing $40.00, waterpump $50.00, oil pan gasket $28.00, exhaust built and welded up EST $150.00, new battery tray $39.00, Battery $65.00. Rear brakes are not hooked up, and I know that will need something before it is ready to go cause I ain't that lucky. Plus no telling what else. It adds up fast. Edited to add: I didn't even think about any of the AC converversion parts I will need to purchase later on. My car will have a working AC.

Yes it sure does add up. Over the winter I am going to change my exhaust a bit. I don't like how low it sits. I only have about 2 weeks left before the car gets put to bed for about six months. Its kind of funny I took my car to get inspected last week. The guy said hey last time this was inspected was 10/12/2007. I said yes its been undergoing an engine swap. He then said you've only driven 145 miles since then. I said yes I took it off the road 10/28/07.
Plan on driving it alot more now!!!