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FriendGregory
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MAY 14, 02:30 PM
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Based on responses, I get it now, most people are weak and useless. Maybe 20% have not missed a day of work, we are carrying the weight of keeping the world running as best we can. My wife and i both are more than before. Trump says we can not stay home, we need to get back to living and Dr. Fauci says keep the world shut down because someone might die from the virus(little exaggerate). People are dying from other things, most people of working age will not get horribly sick, we need materials and infrastructure to keep things moving. I am shocked at the level of panic, fear , and desire to keep the country shutdown. We are not all living in a petri dish bee hive high rise in metro New York City, why the fear? Look around, we are seeing pareto principle in effect and the productive are carrying the load as best they can and many(NOT ALL) of the not working must believe they have limited contribution. Yes, all is collapsing and we desperately need so many more back into the marketplace, we can do it with masks, some distancing, some modified work places, and just doing what we gotta do. Old and sick will also have to follow their own plan.
The below responses to the news commentary is just sad.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/n...cBDtbdZhS9ln1k0bGfyQ
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blackrams
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MAY 14, 07:05 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by FriendGregory:
I am shocked at the level of panic, fear , and desire to keep the country shutdown. We are not all living in a petri dish bee hive high rise in metro New York City, why the fear? |
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Waiting on the feedback. When I mentioned that fear of the virus or results of contracting the COVID 19 virus were the reason many started paying attention, I heard about it. I still think fear is what drove many to actually start wearing face masks and following social distancing guidance. The media and Democratic leadership have done their best to keep folks at home and out of work all the while trying to blame the Trump administration for the Pandemic and the situation the country is in.
I whole heartedly agree that this country needs to get back to work and I am concerned our economy may take a generation to recover without good leadership. I am in that group that is at most risk, I do believe we should be following CDC guidance but, this country has to get back to work. We are the children and grandchildren of the "Greatest Generation" and acting like we are the children of the Three Stooges.
Speaking of the Three Stooges, Pelosi, Schumer and Biden are running a close second. I sure hope we don't see them in re-runs.
Rams   [This message has been edited by blackrams (edited 05-14-2020).]
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MidEngineManiac
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MAY 14, 09:15 PM
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I had pretty much this same "discussion " on a farcebook group earlier today. I quit the group in disgust.
These people (and I use the term loosely ) are governed by fear, enthralled with their "hero worship " of those still working, and more concerned with political correctness and "banned words" than they are with anything resembling practical.
Some kids 2 towns over called some other kids a nasty name (don't matter which one ) and within 15 minutes every leftist social -justice wack job was crawling out of the woodwork with all thoughts of a measured reopening forgotten. They had a social cause to attack.
Really, their only interest is somebody is offended, and organizing drive-by parades for their own feelings of doing something.
In a county of 100,000 we have had 108 cases total, with 69 of those in the same bunkhouse at a greenhouse, and one death very early on. One.
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Wichita
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MAY 15, 01:05 AM
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I'm authentically essential. Today, I had to go into a meat packing plant where there were over 600 COVID-1984 cases. Was I afraid? Hell No!
I do my job, I work, I'm not taking vacation, not giving any excuses, not afraid and running towards the fire like firefighters do. Not waiting or begging for a stimulus check or hazardous pay.
I agree with you Gregory. The 20% are keeping everything going, but we have been doing that all along.
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rinselberg
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MAY 15, 02:22 AM
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"The Reopening"
A new title, given (by me) to an old story that has similarities to the current situation.
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MidEngineManiac
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MAY 15, 03:13 AM
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There is another motivation too.
They are getting 2k/mo to sit home (basically a regular paycheck ) plus making bank at whatever s8de-gig they have come up with. There is one hell of a lot of people who are going to be worse off when things are normal again so they are in no hurry to get there.
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blackrams
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MAY 15, 07:09 AM
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| quote | Originally posted by MidEngineManiac:
There is another motivation too.
They are getting 2k/mo to sit home (basically a regular paycheck ) plus making bank at whatever s8de-gig they have come up with. There is one hell of a lot of people who are going to be worse off when things are normal again so they are in no hurry to get there. |
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A couple of old sayings come to mind. I'm from the government, I'm here to help and be careful what you wish for, it may come true.
Apply either or both as applicable. Politicians are not necessarily your friends. When getting re-elected is their highest goal and leaving office richer than when they arrived, your future interests may not matter. They only look up to the next election.
Rams[This message has been edited by blackrams (edited 05-15-2020).]
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Boondawg
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MAY 15, 12:25 PM
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The Corona virus has shown a blinding light on who we are as a species.
How we really see & think about ourselves, and others.
It seems our value as individual human beings is not intrinsic.
It's conditionary.
We have become so dependent on each others "production" (civilized), that that's all we see each other as.
Each a piece of a means to our own ends.
All "Working as hard as I do".
In short, those that don't produce (satisfactorily to the eyes of others) have less human value to those of us that do.
Some will even see this (virus) in their hearts as a great way to solve the homeless problem.
Less handouts & cleaner streets.
"Thou shalt love thy neighbor as thyself"?
If Jesus showed up tomorrow I wonder if we would even recognize him at all...or just instantly condemn him as just another one of those homeless/unemployed hippy socialists more concerned with feelings than finances...
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blackrams
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MAY 15, 10:51 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by Boondawg:
The Corona virus has shown a blinding light on who we are as a species.
How we really see & think about ourselves, and others.
It seems our value as individual human beings is not intrinsic.
It's conditionary.
We have become so dependent on each others "production" (civilized), that that's all we see each other as.
Each a piece of a means to our own ends.
All "Working as hard as I do".
In short, those that don't produce (satisfactorily to the eyes of others) have less human value to those of us that do.
Some will even see this (virus) in their hearts as a great way to solve the homeless problem.
Less handouts & cleaner streets.
"Thou shalt love thy neighbor as thyself"?
If Jesus showed up tomorrow I wonder if we would even recognize him at all...or just instantly condemn him as just another one of those homeless/unemployed hippy socialists more concerned with feelings than finances...
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Assuming you've pulled your own weight as I have, you have the right to decide who you wish to help and I guess you can judge how ever you wish. Just as I can and have.
You do not have the right to decide who I or anyone else supports although, you can condemn till the cows come home.
While I do support certain charities, I do not believe in handouts to those who won't pull their share of the load. I also won't support those that refuse to follow the rule of law nor those that peddle influence.
Condemn whatever and whoever you wish but, I don't recommend throwing stones while living in a glass house.
Rams[This message has been edited by blackrams (edited 05-15-2020).]
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Wichita
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MAY 16, 07:52 AM
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| quote | Originally posted by Boondawg:
The Corona virus has shown a blinding light on who we are as a species.
How we really see & think about ourselves, and others.
It seems our value as individual human beings is not intrinsic.
It's conditionary.
We have become so dependent on each others "production" (civilized), that that's all we see each other as.
Each a piece of a means to our own ends.
All "Working as hard as I do".
In short, those that don't produce (satisfactorily to the eyes of others) have less human value to those of us that do.
Some will even see this (virus) in their hearts as a great way to solve the homeless problem.
Less handouts & cleaner streets.
"Thou shalt love thy neighbor as thyself"?
If Jesus showed up tomorrow I wonder if we would even recognize him at all...or just instantly condemn him as just another one of those homeless/unemployed hippy socialists more concerned with feelings than finances...
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You make a good point. It does take a million people to make a pencil. But about the value of a human life? That is no real answer to that. Currently we seem to calculate that based on economic and productivity terms. Life Insurance for example. Not for sure if that is right or wrong way to value a human life.
But we all will have three deaths eventually. 1) When we die, 2) When they bury / cremate you. 3) When there is no one else around to remember you or speak of your name.
Eventually we are all forgotten in time.
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