A New REBEL Flag For America ? (Page 1/6)
cliffw FEB 12, 02:47 PM
Ever since the Leftist snowflakes declared that they were triggered by the Civil War Southern flag , the Stars and Bars, they demanded a safe space by the annihilation of it's existence and memory, because of something that happened 156 years ago, before they were even born.

We need a new REBEL flag. I have a new nominee I think will be perfect. Something that can fly for years. Something that will be claimed invokes the same triggering. Racism. It will even be claimed as representing sexism, white nationalism, homophobia, anti Americanism, others I am forgetting.

I suggest this one !

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Of course, we will need a new car. The General Lee is taken. I suggest "The Uncle Sam". It will need a new number. I suggest 45.

We can use the 2019 Dodge Challenger Hellcat.

Synthesis FEB 12, 04:04 PM
This post isn't about Trump/Republicans vs NotTrump/Democrats. This is about the systemic racism and violence I grew up with in a relatively "civilized" area of the "Deep South (tm)".

The Rebel Flag is garbage. I grew up in one of the worst places, where there was the "wrong" side of the tracks, and the "white" side of the tracks. I watched friends get gunned down because they were black. I lived through racism of my own as a white man by being one of the few who had no issues with someone's skin color in an area where skin color determined your worth.

The Confederacy wasn't just a treasonous rebellion against the United States of America (though it was definitely that). It was a rebellion against freedom, liberty, justice, and equality for all men, women, and children. It was a treasonous rebellion to protect the institution of racial enslavement. They hated freedom for all so much that they decided to kill their fellow citizens rather than allow black people to be free.

Those who continue to celebrate the Confederacy, or protect commemorations of their treasonous cause (like the neo-Nazi terrorist that killed Heather Heyer), are showing themselves to be deeply unpatriotic and against the idea of what America is supposed to be.

There is literally nothing more fundamentally anti-American than Confederate sympathy.

Everyone who glorifies the Confederacy in 2019 is a white supremacist. It's a very clear message.

I'm done sitting on the sidelines as I watch hatred destroy the country I love. Stop the ****ing name-calling. I am not a "lib-tard" or a "lefty" or any other derogatory name you want to stick to me. I am not some name. I am a living, breathing, feeling, human being who doesn't give a **** anymore about who you support or what party you are in. To support and idolize something like the Confederacy, the Confederate flag, or the people who support these, is to support the ideals they represent.

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Tony Kania FEB 12, 06:18 PM

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Originally posted by Synthesis:

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Trigger was a horse.


Synthesis FEB 12, 06:27 PM

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Originally posted by Tony Kania:
Trigger was a horse.




So is Sarah Jessica Parker. What's your point? Racism and the symbols of racism are still racist.
rinselberg FEB 12, 06:43 PM

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Originally posted by Synthesis:
This post isn't about Trump/Republicans vs NotTrump/Democrats. This is about the systemic racism and violence I grew up with in a relatively "civilized" area of the "Deep South (tm)".

The Rebel Flag is garbage. I grew up in one of the worst places, where there was the "wrong" side of the tracks, and the "white" side of the tracks. I watched friends get gunned down because they were black. I lived through racism of my own as a white man by being one of the few who had no issues with someone's skin color in an area where skin color determined your worth.

The Confederacy wasn't just a treasonous rebellion against the United States of America (though it was definitely that). It was a rebellion against freedom, liberty, justice, and equality for all men, women, and children. It was a treasonous rebellion to protect the institution of racial enslavement. They hated freedom for all so much that they decided to kill their fellow citizens rather than allow black people to be free.

Those who continue to celebrate the Confederacy, or protect commemorations of their treasonous cause (like the neo-Nazi terrorist that killed Heather Heyer), are showing themselves to be deeply unpatriotic and against the idea of what America is supposed to be.

There is literally nothing more fundamentally anti-American than Confederate sympathy.

Everyone who glorifies the Confederacy in 2019 is a white supremacist. It's a very clear message.

I'm done sitting on the sidelines as I watch hatred destroy the country I love. Stop the ****ing name-calling. I am not a "lib-tard" or a "lefty" or any other derogatory name you want to stick to me. I am not some name. I am a living, breathing, feeling, human being who doesn't give a **** anymore about who you support or what party you are in. To support and idolize something like the Confederacy, the Confederate flag, or the people who support these, is to support the ideals they represent.


This is an excellent synthesis from Synthesis.

It's a fork with two prongs, the Confederacy and "rebel" flag(s) prong, and the general proclivity for name calling on this forum prong.

It's good stuff.
Tony Kania FEB 12, 07:03 PM

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Originally posted by Synthesis:


So is Sarah Jessica Parker. What's your point? Racism and the symbols of racism are still racist.




When is the next antifa meeting there Chris?

Not going to take this farther with you, but you should use caution when calling others racist.
Synthesis FEB 12, 07:13 PM

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Originally posted by Tony Kania:
When is the next antifa meeting there Chris?

Not going to take this farther with you, but you should use caution when calling others racist.



I never once said anyone was racist. I said supporting the symbols of racism does not leave any room for misinterpretation. I don't know what antifa is, I don't care. Don't lump me into a group that allows you to think of me as "less than". I am not less than you or anyone else.

I am tired of seeing the people I thought I knew finding ways to marginalize people who do not agree with their limited scope of the world, whatever that scope may be. There are threads here on this very forum that are designed to intentionally de-humanize other members by giving them a "name" that makes them "other" than living, breathing, thinking, feeling, fellow Fiero enthusiasts. It shouldn't be US vs THEM in any regard, whether by political beliefs, race, creed, nationality, etc. If you'd rather go down that rabbit hole of dehumanizing me, please feel free to. I have said my piece. Racist symbolism is racist no matter what. The Confederacy betrayed the nation when it waged war over their "right" to deprive others of their rights. If someone proudly displays a racist symbol, that means either they are racist, or they are uneducated in what it means.
MidEngineManiac FEB 12, 07:16 PM

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Originally posted by Tony Kania:
When is the next antifa meeting there Chris?

Not going to take this farther with you, but you should use caution when calling others racist.



Just sheddup and keep throwing money at every special interest and minority group that WANTS. And kiss their boots and jump when they say. And speak and think as you are told.

If you don't wanna then you are rrraaaacccciiiiissssttttt!
Hudini FEB 12, 07:27 PM
"Everyone who glorifies the Confederacy in 2019 is a white supremacist."

"Stop the ****ing name-calling."

You have to practice what you preach. Please.

I too am from the Deep South. However, I remember when systemic racism was stopped in 1965. That was the year I started 1st grade. I had black classmates from day 1. I never thought anything about it, they were simply my classmates.

And I also don't miss the Stars and Bars or Confederacy or anything associated with the old Southern Democrats. May they rot in hell. George Wallace and his Democrat ilk were blights on humanity.
randye FEB 12, 07:49 PM

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Originally posted by Synthesis:

This post isn't about Trump/Republicans vs NotTrump/Democrats. This is about the systemic racism and violence I grew up with in a relatively "civilized" area of the "Deep South (tm)".

The Rebel Flag is garbage. I grew up in one of the worst places, where there was the "wrong" side of the tracks, and the "white" side of the tracks. I watched friends get gunned down because they were black. I lived through racism of my own as a white man by being one of the few who had no issues with someone's skin color in an area where skin color determined your worth.

The Confederacy wasn't just a treasonous rebellion against the United States of America (though it was definitely that). It was a rebellion against freedom, liberty, justice, and equality for all men, women, and children. It was a treasonous rebellion to protect the institution of racial enslavement. They hated freedom for all so much that they decided to kill their fellow citizens rather than allow black people to be free.

Those who continue to celebrate the Confederacy, or protect commemorations of their treasonous cause (like the neo-Nazi terrorist that killed Heather Heyer), are showing themselves to be deeply unpatriotic and against the idea of what America is supposed to be.

There is literally nothing more fundamentally anti-American than Confederate sympathy.

Everyone who glorifies the Confederacy in 2019 is a white supremacist. It's a very clear message.

I'm done sitting on the sidelines as I watch hatred destroy the country I love. Stop the ****ing name-calling. I am not a "lib-tard" or a "lefty" or any other derogatory name you want to stick to me. I am not some name. I am a living, breathing, feeling, human being who doesn't give a **** anymore about who you support or what party you are in. To support and idolize something like the Confederacy, the Confederate flag, or the people who support these, is to support the ideals they represent.




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