Russian Collusion! (Page 1/11)
williegoat FEB 03, 01:01 PM
While doing some random curiosity reading on Fusion GPS this morning, I came across this article from last November, which has a nice summary of facts. Most are things we already knew, but it is compelling when we see them all together.

Some might be quick to say, “Yeah, but that's ZeroHedge.”. Check each assertion individually and independently, before dismissing the compendium.

https://www.zerohedge.com/n...sian-money-launderer

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Let's Review:

Russian businessman Denis Katsyv was a key figure in an embezzlement and money laundering scheme involving New York real estate, uncovered by Russian lawyer and accountant Sergei Magnitsky. Magnitsky died in Moscow's Butyrka prison after a year of inhumane treatment. 

The embezzlement scheme uncovered by Magnitsky along with the circumstances behind his death resulted in the Magnitsky Act - a bipartisan bill signed in December 2012 by President Obama which imposed sanctions on Russia.

Katsyv settled with the U.S. Justice department in 2017, paying a paltry $5.9 million in 2017 to settle the case - less than 3% of the amount originally sought by federal prosecutors. 

Katsyv's attorney, Natalia Veselnitskaya, lobbied to remove the sanctions imposed by the Magnitsky Act. 

Fusion GPS was paid $523,651 by Katsyv to investigate London Banker Bill Browder who pushed for the Magnitsky Act

Fusion GPS associate Rob Goldstone set up the infamous meeting at Trump Tower between Donald Trump Jr., Katsyv's lawyer Natalia Veselnitskaya and various associates. The meeting was pitched to Trump Jr. as a "discussion on adoption" (not opposition research on Hillary Clinton) and was shut down by Trump after it became clear Veselnitskaya wanted to discuss the Magnitsky Act, which Don Jr. apparently didn't realize was linked to the adoption issue. Others present at the meeting include Jared Kushner, Paul Manafort, and Goldstone.

Hours before the Trump Tower meeting, Fusion GPS founder Glenn Simpson met with Veselnitskaya.

Meanwhile...

Fusion GPS was paid $1,024,408 by a DNC law firm, funded in part by Hillary Clinton and the DNC, to create the salacious 34 page dossier.

Fusion paid former British spy Christopher Steele $168,000 to assemble the document (which had the cooperation of two senior Kremlin officials).

Clinton campaign manager John Podesta met with Fusion CEO Glenn Simpson the day after the 34 page dossier was made public.

For their efforts, Fusion GPS was paid over $1.5 million dollars between Hillary Clinton, the DNC, and the holding company owned by pro-Kremlin businessman Denis Katsyv.

Russian Ties Galore!

Looking at other Russian affiliations on the left - since that's the entire impetus of the witch hunt against President Trump:

Russia gained control over 20% of United States uranium after the Clinton Foundation received $145 million from Uranium One affiliates and Russian oligarchs connected to the deal.

The Obama administration approved the transaction after the FBI knew of a Russian plot to corner the US Uranium market and a racketeering scheme involving a Kentucky trucking company. Over 5,000 documents and a video of Russians preparing a briefcase stuffed with bribe money for Obama administration officials were obtained by an FBI informant.

Bill Clinton met with Vladimir Putin at his house in Russia, the same day he collected $500,000 for a speech to a Russian bank which upgraded Uranium One stock. Clinton sought approval from Hillary Clinton's State Department to meet with 15 Russians.

Tony Podesta, brother of John Podesta, lobbied for Uranium One after Russia state-owned energy giant Rosatom owned the company outright.

Tony Podesta met regularly with Clinton Foundation and was considered "basically part" of the organization, according to a former long-time executive of the Podesta Group, who also said Podesta was "peddling Russian oligarchs" all over D.C.
  
Clinton campaign chief and longtime DNC operative John Podesta recommended that brother Tony hire Hillary Clinton's chief legislative advisor at the State Department, David Adams, which allowed a direct link between the firm's Russian clients and the Obama administration.
 
John Podesta sat on the board and owned shares in Joule Unlimited - a green-energy company which received $35 million from the Russian government while Hillary Clinton served as Secretary of State. In addition to Podesta, Joule's board of directors included senior Russian official Anatoly Chubais and oligarch Reuben Vardanyan - a Putin appointee to the Russian economic modernization council. Podesta jettisoned his shares before the 2016 election, transferring them to his daughter via a shell corporation. 



I know that a few are going to say, "Yeah, yeah....that's old news!". I already said that, but it is interesting to see it all in one place.

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randye FEB 03, 07:21 PM
More Synopsis:

The FBI used a FISA warrant to spy on the campaign through Manafort.

Manafort left in August.

With Manafort out, they chose to target Carter Page, another Trump advisor. That's why the multiple (4) FISA warrants.

Hillary paid for the Steele dossier.

The FBI knew this.

DNC hired Fusion GPS, who took Russian sources via Steele and repackaged it

The FBI and Fusion GPS then briefed five major new outlets before the election.

The FBI (Comey, Rosenstein, etc.) used the phony news accounts as ADDITIONAL EVIDENCE to the FISA judge.

Essentially they said: "We have the dossier and look, the media has found the same information." But they never told the judge that Fusion had leaked parts of the dossier to five media companies.

McCabe testified that the FBI never would have been able to make a case for FISA warrants without the (phony) dossier.

Fusion GPS was also working as an agent for Russia to pull the plug on the Magnitsky Act.

Glenn Simpson, one of the founders of Fusion GPS, had dinner with that Russian lawyer, (Natalia Veselnitskaya), the day before and the day of her meeting with Don Jr.

How did the Russian lawyer get in the country? The Obama Justice Dept intervened and granted her an emergency Visa.

In September 2016, less than two months before the election, Steele spoke with Deputy Attorney General Bruce Ohr.

Ohr’s wife worked for Fusion GPS, that hired Steele on behalf of the DNC/Clinton lawyers at Perkins Coie.

Steele was not fired by the FBI because his stuff was full of lies - the FBI liked that part.

He was fired because he outed his relationship with the FBI to the media, which might lead to exposing their crimes, as just happened.

Andrew McCabe, Sally Yates, Rod Rosenstein and Comey signed these FISA applications. Rosenstein signed FISA applications -- right before he tagged Mueller to head up the Russia investigation.

And all of this leads back to Obama because supposedly the Presidential Daily Briefing covers FISA activity.

And what did Obama do JUST BEFORE LEAVING OFFICE?

He loosened the rules on sharing communications intercepts.

He did it as a way to make sure information gathered from FISA surveillance against Trump could be leaked.

THERE'S your collusion. All on the Democrat side.

Everything leads back to the Democrats. What would you call this type of anti-American activity from the left? Sedition."

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rogergarrison FEB 05, 05:17 PM
To sum everything up in one sentence, Trump had NO collusion with Russia, while Hillary was up to her neck in it. Ironic that Hillary is pushing for collusion investigations, and shes the one caught with her hand in the cookie jar.
olejoedad FEB 16, 06:15 PM
This might be of interest....

http://www.foxnews.com/poli...ssian-nationals.html
williegoat FEB 16, 06:29 PM

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Originally posted by olejoedad:

This might be of interest....

http://www.foxnews.com/poli...ssian-nationals.html


Yeah, several years ago I had suggested (jokingly, of course) that rinselberg might be posting from Saint Petersburg, but no one caught the reference. Someone even tried to tell me that I must have meant Moscow.
dratts FEB 16, 09:09 PM

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Originally posted by rogergarrison:

To sum everything up in one sentence, Trump had NO collusion with Russia, while Hillary was up to her neck in it. Ironic that Hillary is pushing for collusion investigations, and shes the one caught with her hand in the cookie jar.



I think that the Russian efforts were anyone but HRC. I could be wrong.
williegoat FEB 16, 09:50 PM

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Originally posted by dratts:

I think that the Russian efforts were anyone but HRC. I could be wrong.



This recent news story involves Russia's attempt to foment hate and discontent during our election cycle. At that, they succeeded, though their method is old news.

Hillary's involvement with the Russians is much more sinister, but also old news.
randye FEB 16, 09:52 PM

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Originally posted by dratts:


I think that the Russian efforts were anyone but HRC. I could be wrong.





I still have not figured out why she, HRC, lost. Was it the Russian’s? Or was it WikiLeaks? Or was it Podesta? Or Comey?

Or was it a sexual predator husband? Or was it a staff’s husband, Wiener’s immoral pictures? Was it subpoena violations? Or was it the corrupt foundation who got $128 million from the Canadian company who closed the Russian Uranium deal? Or was it congressional lies? Or the Benghazi bungle Or was it the pay for play? Or the travel gate scandal? Or was it the Whitewater scandal? Or the cattle gate scandal? Or the Trooper Gate scandal? Or was it the $15 million for Chelesa’s apartment bought with foundation money? Or Comey’s investigation? Or her husband’s interference with Loretta Lynch and the investigation? Or was it stealing debate questions? Was it forensically deleting over 30,000 emails? Was it the Seth Rich murder? Was it calling one half of the USA ‘deplorable?’ Was it the underhanded treatment of the Marxist Bernie Sanders? Was it murder of Vince Foster? The Jennifer Flowers assault? The Jennifer settlement? Was it Hillary's heading up the bimbo eruption task force? The $800,00 Paula Jones settlement? The lie about taking on sniper fire? the impeachment of Bill? The $6 billion she lost when in charge of the State Dept? The $10 million she took for the pardon of Marc Rich? Or maybe it was the $8 billion given to the Clinton Foundation to build houses in Haiti that never happened?

GEE, I just can’t quite put my finger on it, but it seems to be right in front of me. But then, at this point, what difference does it make?

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Rickady88GT FEB 16, 10:39 PM

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Originally posted by williegoat:

This recent news story involves Russia's attempt to foment hate and discontent during our election cycle. At that, they succeeded, though their method is old news.

Hillary's involvement with the Russians is much more sinister, but also old news.



I doubt that America required any outside help to stir up hate and discontent during an election cycle.
cliffw FEB 17, 09:34 AM

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Originally posted by randye:
GEE, I just can’t quite put my finger on it, but it seems to be right in front of me. But then, at this point, what difference does it make?



randye, you are pretty astute. I am surprised you do not see it. It's as clear as the nose on your face, right in front of you.

You are deplorable, irredeemable, so I am going to take away your coal mining job and make your family starve. Then ... I am going to charge you 20,000 carbon credits.