[GRAPHIC] Video shows police killing of Daniel Shaver (Page 1/6)
Threedog DEC 09, 12:19 AM
Warning, this video contains death.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M62Va6Ft2cw


Some facts about the case.

The jury found the officer innocent. The judge withheld this video from the Jury...

The officer had the words "get ****ed" etched into his rifle. This is the very definition of an unjustified shooting..
Lambo nut DEC 09, 01:08 AM
He didn't follow instructions and got shot. He looked to be reaching for something. Jury was correct. Troll elsewhere. I'm done with any further conversation about this with your dumb ass.
MidEngineManiac DEC 09, 01:21 AM
That was NOT an unjustified shooting.

THAT was a set-up for a murder !!

The attitude and aggressive demeanor of that prick was designed to cause fear and confusion, which WILL lead to "failure to obey" strictly out of human anxiety.

He then used that "failure" as an excuse for an execution.

He had PLENTY of time and space to fall back 20 feet to give himself some room and wait for backup.

Basically, he treated the whole thing as a combat situation from start to finish, when it fact once the 2 were down with arms extended the "crisis moment" had passed.

He also forgot, that HAD there been a 3rd person with a gun come around that corner, he was totally ****ed. The same goes for someone behind him. His attention was 100% laser-focused on that one target. Old-fashioned fixation. The moron THOUGHT he was in control of the situation, when in reality he had no control whatsoever.

Seems to me a combination of 'roid rage, bad power-trip attitude and poor training.

(To be honest, its been over 10 minutes since I watched that interaction, and I STILL have an overwhelming urge to pound the crap out of that cop due 100% to his attitude and demeanor. If the VIDEO can have that affect on a human psyche (the fight-flight response), imagine what the actual interaction would have done. He went in there looking for a fight, and got one)

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blackrams DEC 09, 06:37 AM
Well, went to the site to watch the video but, it required me to sign up. Not gonna do that.

So, I'll just have to accept the jury's judgement. Not that what I think would matter at this point.

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Ron

Isn't it strange that after a bombing, everyone blames the bomber, his upbringing, his environment, his culture, his mental state but …
after a shooting, the problem is the gun....
Open your frigg'n minds, think about all the other tools that can be made into WMDs.

My wife told me to grow up. I told her to get out of my fort!

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Hudini DEC 09, 07:58 AM
It was pretty horrifying to watch. The man was impaired and on his hands and knees. As he crawled forward he reached to his waist (most likely to pull his pants up) which the officer took as a threatening move. The guy was crying and crawling while looking down at the floor.
Doug85GT DEC 09, 08:13 AM
Bad shoot. The guy was drunk. Cops use failure to follow instructions as part of their field sobriety test. This time they used it to justify killing him. They could have walked up to him at several points in the video when he had his hands up or in front of him or while they had him do the Hokey Pokey before they shot him.
dratts DEC 09, 09:00 AM
Another trigger happy cop that loves exerting his authority! This didn't have to happen. Anyone know what he was being held for? Was there even any crime involved? The video doesn't explain much.
Hudini DEC 09, 09:10 AM
It was reported to police as a man with a gun in a hotel room. It turned out the man and friends were drinking and pointing a pellet gun out the window. Totally stupid and irresponsible behavior which ended up costing his life.
blackrams DEC 09, 09:34 AM

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Originally posted by dratts:

Another trigger happy cop that loves exerting his authority! This didn't have to happen. Anyone know what he was being held for? Was there even any crime involved? The video doesn't explain much.



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Originally posted by Hudini:

It was reported to police as a man with a gun in a hotel room. It turned out the man and friends were drinking and pointing a pellet gun out the window. Totally stupid and irresponsible behavior which ended up costing his life.



Let's look at this from a cause and effect stand point. Hmmm, a LEO called to investigate a man pointing a gun out a window? Trigger happy? Maybe, scared, most likely. Wasn't there and didn't see the evidence the jury saw and heard. Just glad I wasn't the LEO. Every time a LEO goes on one of these calls, they know they are risking their own lives.

I have to go back to my previously stated position. We are all responsible for the decisions and actions we take. Making stupid decisions and taking stupid actions frequently results in undesirable results. Pointing that pellet gun out the window is what got this all started. Not suggesting he deserved to get shot but, that decision had a less than desirable end result.

The suing wife wouldn't win if I was on the jury based on what I've read, have now seen on the news and know what I think to be the truth. Stupidity often results in painful results. In this case, death. Hope his friends and all of us learned something from this very tragic example.

And yes, I am pro-gun rights.
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Ron

Isn't it strange that after a bombing, everyone blames the bomber, his upbringing, his environment, his culture, his mental state but …
after a shooting, the problem is the gun....
Open your frigg'n minds, think about all the other tools that can be made into WMDs.

My wife told me to grow up. I told her to get out of my fort!

[This message has been edited by blackrams (edited 12-09-2017).]

rogergarrison DEC 09, 10:47 AM
From what I seen in the video, cops were called for a man with a gun, and perp sort of obeyed police commands UNTIL he reached for his waist. They still hadnt seen a gun, thrown out or placed on floor. So entirely possible it was still on him. You had 1-2 seconds to decide what to do as a cop. He shot. Jury got it right, open and closed case to me. Moral = wear right sized pants or belt so your pants dont fall down morons.