i would like to make a sincere apology to the actions of "italian90"s actions that were totally out of line. he was my former roomate that lived with me and i bought his car off him. he was always on my computer cause this was the only one with internet access. i would like to apologize for the things he said and to cliff and all the people that he offended he was out of line and disrespectful so iam truly sorry for that. and i would like to stay cause there are a lot of great people on hear that have helped me with my fiero. but from the comments he made i would understand why you wouldnt want me to stay so i will leave the decsion to the members and cliff to make the final say. and if you guys choice for me to leave i would like to say it was great gettin to know you guys and thanx for all the help with my car
If it wasnt you then dont worry about it. Stick around and enjoy your car. If you want you can come over and mow my yard if it will make you feel better
thank you for "maning up" even though it was not you that did it but you are taking the resposiblity for it that show a true class act on your part. and that true class act is what make this place great. by the way don't give your password to your freind
i would like to make a sincere apology to the actions of "italian90"s actions that were totally out of line. he was my former roomate that lived with me and i bought his car off him. he was always on my computer cause this was the only one with internet access. i would like to apologize for the things he said and to cliff and all the people that he offended he was out of line and disrespectful so iam truly sorry for that. and i would like to stay cause there are a lot of great people on hear that have helped me with my fiero. but from the comments he made i would understand why you wouldnt want me to stay so i will leave the decsion to the members and cliff to make the final say. and if you guys choice for me to leave i would like to say it was great gettin to know you guys and thanx for all the help with my car
Originally posted by lovenfieros: i would like to make a sincere apology to the actions of "italian90"s actions that were totally out of line. he was my former roomate that lived with me and i bought his car off him. he was always on my computer cause this was the only one with internet access.
Wrong. This this is the same person who used two different user names.
There's no "maning up" or owning of actions here, just an attempt to deceive. The evidence can be easily seen if one looks and puts the pieces together.
Wrong. This this is the same person who used two different user names.
There's no "maning up" or owning of actions here, just an attempt to deceive. The evidence can be easily seen if one looks and puts the pieces together.
I have to agree. I just searched both user names...and the similarities are too close to be two different people. The main thing I noticed when comparing posts from both italian90 and lovenfieros is that the majority of the posts from both begin with the words "well" or "hey".
a few by lovenfieros...
"well i got a neon blue ungerglow kit..." "well i just bought a 200 watt stero..." "well ive seen many post about headlights..." "well i was wondering i have a 84 SE..." "well i put 91 high octane in my 84 SE..." "well this is my car..." "well i know this isnt the right place for this..." "well i just bought a boost gauge..." "hey i just started here..."
and here's a few by italian90...
"welll i just boght a brand new cluutch..." "hey this is my 1984 fiero SE..." "hey anyone know how to put pics on here..." "hey i have 84 fiero and i was wondering..."
Even if this is another account by the same person, I dont see a huge problem of letting him stay as long as he learned his lesson and keeps his feces to himself.
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"well i got a neon blue ungerglow kit..." "well i just bought a 200 watt stero..." "well ive seen many post about headlights..." "well i was wondering i have a 84 SE..." "well i put 91 high octane in my 84 SE..." "well this is my car..." "well i know this isnt the right place for this..." "well i just bought a boost gauge..." "hey i just started here..."
and here's a few by italian90...
"welll i just boght a brand new cluutch..." "hey this is my 1984 fiero SE..." "hey anyone know how to put pics on here..." "hey i have 84 fiero and i was wondering..."
The similarities seem too close to me.
Maybe I'm not understanding something, but werent the production numbers for the 84s higher than all other years? What similarities between these two people exist other than they both have 84SE's and are noobs? If maybe they had yellow t-top stick-shift Formulas I might be inclined to believe it, but 84s?
...i would like to make a sincere apology to the actions of "italian90"s ...he was my former roomate that lived with me ...i would like to apologize for the things he said and to cliff and all the people that he offended ...he was out of line and disrespectful so iam truly sorry for that...
I certainly don't have a problem with anyone who deserves a second chance. I don't have a problem with someone who is edgy and speaks their mind. I don't have a problem with anyone who doesn't pick on me. What does bother me is that someone who pretends that they are not the person who made the mistakes. It's like he's half way there but just needs to push himself over the edge to the other side.
The more members we have, the better. The more people who learn from what others have to share, great! Having a place to hang out and share life with- priceless. I can't imagine how many people's lives have been changed as a result of this forum- though I can think of many.
If he would be willing to change his initial post and remove the he's then I'd be more than happy to delete all my posts and give him credit for having the strength bare his soul a bit. Nobody likes to admit they're wrong. Doing so has a cathartic effect that washes away the dirt and provides an opportunity to start anew. I just hope he edits his post before too many more people read it so this can just go away and we can get back to enjoying what we have here.
* I'd also like to see him use the search feature a little more before posting.
* I'd also like to see him use the search feature a little more before posting. [/COLOR]
Let it go, what good will come of it. No need for the tourches and pitchforks, if its him then lets hope he learned his lesson, if its true then he has nothing to be sorry for.
Originally posted by Jake_Dragon: Let it go, what good will come of it. No need for the tourches and pitchforks, if its him then lets hope he learned his lesson, if its true then he has nothing to be sorry for.
------------------ Ron
Never, never do anything or wear things that you don't want to have to explain to Paramedics, it can get very embarrassing. They talk!
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Maybe this guy has split personalities.......not sure......but lovenfieros has not been an a$$, so my vote is to stay. If he turns back into Italian90, then he should be kicked.
Time will tell I'm sure.....it always does. You can only be a fake for so long. Not saying that you are, lovenfieros, but if.........
Let me put it this way...there are people in Iraq that were trying to kill me on the first night of the war. I flew a mission into the northern part of the country to seize airfields for US use. Those same people today I have to help form an Iraqi military by aiding them, training them, and protecting them. THESE PEOPLE TRIED TO KILL ME! He may have said some inappropriate things but in perspective people...its insignificant. The bible says forgive and forget. Let him stay. My vote and my opinion only but man it seems like a trite thing once you put it into the big world/big picture perspective.
I don't care one way or the other if he stays- that's not an issue with me. As far as people trying to kill you, who would you trust more: someone who tells you that it was he who tried to kill you and he's seen the light and he's sorry-- or someone who apologizes for "his friend Achmed" who was trying to kill you?
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In this case, I have evidence that proves beyond a reasonable doubt, and like any good reporter, I won't reveal my source(s).
In other words, we should buy your bullshit, no questions asked.
You have a pretty lousy memory of some of your own actions though. Just to remind you, you're the guy who led cops on a high speed chase, you're the guy who has taken money from other people for products that you took months to deliver, and you're the drama queen who typed a suicide note on the forum. How anyone has any goodwill left towards you is completely beyond me. Maybe you should take your bucket of stones and go back into your glass house, bud.
I wondered how long it would take for you to rear YOUR ugly head here... and it doesn't surprise me that you are taking this position. Why don't you go back to RFT where you belong? As far as buckets and stones go, it must get pretty cold and wet in your house...
Originally posted by WhiteDevil88: In other words, we should buy your bullshit, no questions asked.
You have a pretty lousy memory of some of your own actions though. Just to remind you, you're the guy who led cops on a high speed chase, you're the guy who has taken money from other people for products that you took months to deliver, and you're the drama queen who typed a suicide note on the forum. How anyone has any goodwill left towards you is completely beyond me. Maybe you should take your bucket of stones and go back into your glass house, bud.
Originally posted by WhiteDevil88: Taking what position? That you're a drama queen who has lost any credibility with me? It doesn't surprise me either.
Worrying about being credible in your eyes is like hoping that the neighborhood child molester would make a good baby sitter...
Define scumbag. I've never taken anyone's money for products I could not deliver. I've never run from the cops. I don't have any felonies. I've never even been arrested. Why don't you look inside yourself to see what your actions have resulted in, and take a little ownership in that before you make it your mission to load up the ban-wagon. Why don't you try apologizing to those that you have wronged, before criticizing others on the validity of their apologies.
Looks like you and lovenitalianfieros both have a problem using the search feature on the forum.
One thing that we CAN count on is your ability to twist and bend the truth to suit your own agenda. Why you're such a bitter person I couldn't really care less. It's just sad that you walk through life with the disposition you have- sad for you and sad for those that have to deal with it.
You must have missed a lot that happened while you begging to be unbanned from the forum.
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Wow that confused me Cliff, I thought you just linked back to the top so I'd have to read through all that again, then I seen where the thread ended up.
That was dirty Cliff. You linked this thread. It's like I'm stuck in a Star Trek time travel episode. (they were all time travel episodes) How do I get out?
In the past, our enemies defined themselves with uniforms so you knew who they were. The problem is we don't know anymore. It could be the guy next to you who tried or it could be his brother, father, uncle, cousin, etc. etc. The dress just like your neighbors do so you can't identify them. That was one of my points, we can either spend our lives being holier than thou' and constantly judging others or we can just press along and do the best we can. Your real true opition in this case is to voice your opinion, which you have and that was to ban him, and you have every right to state that. I happen to differ respectfully in that opinion. I want to give him another chance. In the end you can always just skip his posts. If he proves you right you can always relish in that fact but he may surprise you and either a. not be the person you claim him to be or b. do the same things and get banned.
and it doesn't surprise me that you are taking this position. Why don't you go back to RFT where you belong? As far as buckets and stones go, it must get pretty cold and wet in your house...
