Attorney at Law Dan Goldman was one of the "faces" on the Democrats' side during the first impeachment of President Trump.
Peter Strzok was at the very top of the FBI's counterintelligence apparatus and became embroiled in controversy over his role in the Mueller investigation and the text messages that he exchanged with his "partner in tryst" FBI lawyer Lisa Page.
MSNBC's Nicolle Wallace had them on earlier today to discuss the breaking news--well, here:
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Federal investigators on Wednesday seized cellphones and computers from Rudolph W. Giuliani, the former mayor of New York City who became President Donald J. Trump’s personal lawyer, stepping up a criminal investigation into Mr. Giuliani’s dealings in Ukraine, three people with knowledge of the investigation said.
F.B.I. agents executed search warrants around 6 a.m. at Mr. Giuliani’s apartment on Madison Avenue and his Park Avenue office in Manhattan, carting away the electronic devices, Mr. Giuliani confirmed in a statement.
The execution of search warrants is an extraordinary action for prosecutors to take against a lawyer, let alone a lawyer for a former president. The move marked a major development in the long-running investigation into Mr. Giuliani, which examines some of the same people and conduct that were at the center of Mr. Trump’s first impeachment trial. . . .
"F.B.I. Searches Giuliani’s Home and Office, Seizing Phones and Computers"
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Prosecutors obtained the search warrants as part of an investigation into whether Rudy Giuliani broke lobbying laws when he was President Donald J. Trump’s personal lawyer.
This map that delineates the internationally recognized boundaries between Ukraine and Russia could not be less relevant, in terms of understanding or critiquing what cvxjet just said about "Rudy" and Russia.
Putin calls the shots (says Captain Obvious) for the Russian Federation. Putin's "game" includes maintaining and if possible, further expanding the Russian Federation's power and influence in Ukraine. To this end, Putin collaborates with pro-Russian factions and oligarchs in Ukraine, including (very notably) Dmitry Firtash.
The bulls**t that pro-Russian Ukrainians fed to Rudy Giuliani was bulls**t that came from Vladimir Putin.
If cvxjet returns to this discussion, I predict that he will not succumb to this feckless and transparently pro-Trump (and anti-American) gaslighting that is being attempted with the deployment of this pointless and irrelevant map of the internationally recognized boundaries between Russia and Ukraine.
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If he posts it'll be the same cookie-cutter non-sequitur word salad as always.
Russia is not the Dysfunctional States of America. Ukraine is not the Dysfunctional States of America. Watching a statesman in Russia outflank the policies of what everybody in the world sees as a phony pResident in America is demoralizing.
But all of you Trump-lovers want the US of A to be run by the Russian Gangster.....Any time anything comes up pointing to Russian interference you jump up and start telling everyone how Russia-Faux and OANN(Russia) news TOLD you that "Russia would never do anything wrong ever.....They are the ONLY Christian country in the world!!!"
You guys want so badly to get the new civil war started in this country....and Putin is giggling like a 10 year old school kid.....
Here is your new constitution...direct from Russia;
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Originally posted by Hudini: And this is where your BS falls on it's face
"Exclusive: Microsoft believes Russians that hacked Clinton [emails] targeted Biden campaign firm - sources" Joel Schectman, Raphael Satter, Christopher Bing, and Joseph Menn for Reuters; September 9, 2020. (4 minute read.) https://www.reuters.com/art...lusive-idUSKBN2610I4
"NYT: Firing of U.S. Ambassador Is At The Center Of The Giuliani Investigation | The ReidOut | MSNBC" queue up the U.S. Intelligence Community at the 3:20 mark https://youtu.be/VUs98uReUp8?t=200
Sounds like Hudini is talking "Deep State Conspiracy" against DJT.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Your "Deep State Conspiracy" wears A-A-ARMY boots! RUSSIAN ARMY boots!
You guys all LOVE Russia and your hero Putin- and all have it on good authority that there was no collusion or interference by Russia- from the Russia news sources, Faux, OANNY and possibly you all watch TASS also.
All of my conservative friends starting saying really stupid crap back a decade ago; "Obama is a foreign-born Mussy who will destroy America!!!" and "All democraps are devil-worshipping commies bent on destroying their own country!!!" and "Russia is a great country- the only Christian country!!!" and of course "Putin is a great leader!!!"....Then in 2015, they all went nuts over the "Jade Helm Invasion" which none of you can (NOW) reNember ("Right").....And of course in 2016 they all fell in love with the man-size baby with the orange hair; "He is so great- I think he is the greatest man I have ever heard of!"
I would have believed that good conservatives would never "Swoon" over anyone- let alone a cry-baby crook like trump....But you all roll on the floor any time he ranted at how people were not patting him on the back......Just flabbergasting!
Putin banned Canadians and Americans who aren't heterosexual from adopting Russian children. The USA is promoting full non-hetero activity, Including child adoption.
You chose your side, cvxjet. We have noted your choice.
I understand- Putin does one thing you agree with and you are ready to jump on his train to wreck the United States.............You are definitely "good" "Christians" but you don't care a wit about what Putin has done to our great nation.......Start learning Russian!
I care about this country and do not care about what religious fanatics want to do- in fact, I am completely against your wanting a religious theocracy...America was built on FREEDOM...including RELIGIOUS freedom....so trying to ram your beliefs down everyone's throats is very much ANTI-American.
You've made it abundantly clear that you do not understand a lot of things.
Another thing that you have made clear is that for all of your fake bleating about being a "conservative", you spew one hell of a lot of LEFTIST propaganda on this forum and spend a LOT of time attacking conservatives.
The problem with you Leftists that try to pretend to be conservatives is that you don't understand the ideology and, more importantly, since you don't understand the ideology you can't help giving yourselves away with the nonsense you imposters spew.
"RUSSIA, TRUMP, RUSSIA, TRUMP, RUSSIA, TRUMP!!! You couldn't possibly be any more obvious.
I'm sure you think you're clever........You're not.
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Heterosexual and homosexual are not religions to conservatives, cvxjet. One of them is, though, to many leftists. Children aren't supposed to be a used for sexual and political manipultion to claim 'muh freedoms!'
You guys all LOVE Russia and your hero Putin- and all have it on good authority that there was no collusion or interference by Russia- from the Russia news sources, Faux, OANNY and possibly you all watch TASS also.
All of my conservative friends starting saying really stupid crap back a decade ago; "Obama is a foreign-born Mussy who will destroy America!!!" and "All democraps are devil-worshipping commies bent on destroying their own country!!!" and "Russia is a great country- the only Christian country!!!" and of course "Putin is a great leader!!!"....Then in 2015, they all went nuts over the "Jade Helm Invasion" which none of you can (NOW) reNember ("Right").....And of course in 2016 they all fell in love with the man-size baby with the orange hair; "He is so great- I think he is the greatest man I have ever heard of!"
I would have believed that good conservatives would never "Swoon" over anyone- let alone a cry-baby crook like trump....But you all roll on the floor any time he ranted at how people were not patting him on the back......Just flabbergasting!
I doubt you have any conservative friends. I think that you and your friends are conspiracy theorists.
I have conservative friends. None of them think the way that you think a conservative thinks.
Or is this more proof that Kalifornia is entirely loony-tunes?
But all of you Trump-lovers want the US of A to be run by the Russian Gangster.....Any time anything comes up pointing to Russian interference you jump up and start telling everyone how Russia-Faux and OANN(Russia) news TOLD you that "Russia would never do anything wrong ever.....They are the ONLY Christian country in the world!!!"
You guys want so badly to get the new civil war started in this country....and Putin is giggling like a 10 year old school kid.....
I have heard it is easier to argue at a caricature of a mass of people than to respond in a sensible way.
I don't particularly care for the man, but I thought his policies were very good for the economy, the middle class, the energy sector, the immigration system and national security.
I cannot say that about the policies of former vice president biden.
cvxjet isnt fooling anybody, except himself. If he pretends he's right wing he thinks it gives him permission to bash the right. It's the same as a black identifying person being able to use the N word or a homosexual using slang pejoratives about that fellow group.
My impression is that cvxjet describes himself as "a conservative." And more narrowly, a "fiscal conservative." Not a Deficit Hawk, perhaps, but a Deficit Raven(?)
Leaving cvxjet aside, however, the phrase "right wing" has a different (and less respectable) connotation for me than "conservative."
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Talking about "freedoms" isn't bashing fiscal conservatives so the distinction isn't valid or it supports those who point out that he isnt conservative.
U.S. investigators are seeking to review Rudy Giuliani's phones and computers for communications with more than a dozen people, including a high-ranking prosecutor in Ukraine, according to a warrant executed at his apartment this week.
They also are searching for communications with any U.S. government official or employee relating to Marie Yovanovitch, the U.S. ambassador to Ukraine who was ousted by the Trump administration in 2019, the warrant says. . . .
"You can't tell the players without a scorecard," goes the old saying, but fortunately, Reuters has just published a "scorecard."
This 5 minute "read" is the next best thing to having been a "fly on the wall" when FBI agents executed search warrants at Rudy Giuliani's Manhattan apartment home and office, seizing more than 10 cell phones and computers.
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According to the warrant, investigators are looking for evidence that Giuliani acted as an unregistered foreign agent, a violation of lobbying laws.
I think there's likely something more in store for "Rudy G." More than just a single charge of not registering as a foreign agent.
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Meanwhile the richest lobbying group in America is AIPAC, and they don't have to register as a foreign lobbying agency. Because they buy off politicians. The rest they threaten with political force to resist having to register.
WaPo, NYT and NBC News have all retracted on something in their reporting on Rudy Giuliani. That Giuliani received a defensive briefing from the FBI about Russian-backed disinformation efforts from people that Giuliani might have been working with. He did not receive such a briefing from the FBI.
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NBC News said in its correction that its story "was based on a source familiar with the matter, but a second source now says the briefing was only prepared for Giuliani and not delivered to him, in part over concerns it might complicate the criminal investigation of Giuliani."
Ah.....remember the good old days when reporters used multiple sources to verify their information before it was released for public consumption?
Click-world....
Propaganda does not need to be verified.
Propaganda is only ever "retracted" if it serves the purpose of the propagandist. ........................... "The truth always eventually comes out and it is NEVER what the Leftist media originally told you." ........randye