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'Reparational Marijuana' in Evanston, Illinois. Rolling Stone reports. by rinselberg
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"Evanston, Illinois Will Use Weed Tax to Fund Nation’s First Government Reparations Program"
 
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The fund, which will provide housing grants for black residents, will be supported through donations and marijuana sales taxes.

Jon Blistein for Rolling Stone; March 23, 2021.
https://www.rollingstone.co...iijuana-tax-1145588/

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Willie . . . you've become a Human Jukebox
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That just shows two things:

1) There is a song for everything.
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2) Life hasn't changed that much since the time when your grandparents were young. Both of those songs are over 85 years old.

Also, doling out money based on race is as silly as those songs. That program is the very definition of "systemic racism". The Evanston City Council must be smoking something.

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https://www.dailymail.co.uk...00-month-checks.html

City of Oakland Mayor is branded racist for giving families of color $500 a month if they earn under $59,000 with no rules on how they spend it - but offering poor white families nothing

Oakland Mayor Libby Schaaf announced race-based program to give families of color $500 monthly checks
Half of the $500 grants will be to families earning under $30,000, in the predominantly 'BIPOC' East Oakland area
The program, funded by wealthy private donors, explicitly excludes poor white families
An estimated 10,000 of Oakland's 435,000 population are white residents who live in poverty, defined by earning less than $12,880
Many of the wealthy white city residents are 'young transplants', who move to the Bay Area for high paying jobs in tech and finance

By Bevan Hurley For Dailymail.Com and Ap

Published: 17:43 EDT, 24 March 2021 | Updated: 00:06 EDT, 25 March 2021

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Originally posted by williegoat:


Also, doling out money based on race is as silly as those songs. That program is the very definition of "systemic racism". The Evanston City Council must be smoking something.



Doling out money on the basis of race by the government is also ILLEGAL

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If that first song, "Weed Smoker's Dream" sounds familiar, Peggy Lee and Benny Goodman had a big hit with it under a different title and different lyrics in the early forties. And if those names don't ring a bell, perhaps you saw "Who Framed Roger Rabbit?".
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Originally posted by rinselberg:
Jon Blistein for Rolling Stone; March 23, 2021.
Read-o-Meter under 3 minutes.


Read-O-Meter, Zero seconds. Really ? A music magazine commenting on politics ? Do you know you read questionable sources ?

Reparations have been paid for the last 50+ years.
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Originally posted by cliffw:

Read-O-Meter, Zero seconds. Really? A music magazine commenting on politics? Do you know you read questionable sources?

Reparations have been paid for the last 50+ years.

This is especially for cliffw. I have my fingers crossed that he sees this. These are excerpts, although taken together this is about half of the text that's there. The remainder is mostly about the magazine's musical side.

 
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Rolling Stone is a US-based magazine devoted to music, liberal politics, and popular culture that is published every two weeks. Rolling Stone was founded in San Francisco in 1967 by Jann Wenner, who is still editor and publisher, and music critic Ralph J. Gleason.

The magazine was known for its political coverage beginning in the 1970s, with the enigmatic and controversial gonzo journalist Hunter S. Thompson. Rolling Stone magazine changed its format in the 1990s to appeal to younger readers, often focusing on young television or film actors and pop music. This led to criticism that the magazine was emphasizing style over substance. In recent years, the magazine has resumed its traditional mix of content, including in-depth political stories, and has seen its circulation increase

 
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In the 1970s, Rolling Stone began to make a mark for its political coverage, with the likes of gonzo journalist Hunter S. Thompson writing for the magazine's political section. Thompson would first publish his most famous work Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas within the pages of Rolling Stone, where he remained a contributing editor until his death in 2005. In the 1970s, the magazine also helped launch the careers of many prominent authors, including Cameron Crowe, Lester Bangs, Joe Klein, Joe Eszterhas, Patti Smith and P. J. O'Rourke. It was at this point that the magazine ran some of its most famous stories, including that of the Patty Hearst abduction odyssey. One interviewer, speaking for large numbers of his peers, said that he bought his first copy of the magazine upon initial arrival on his college campus, which he described as a "rite of passage".

 
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After years of declining readership, the magazine experienced a major resurgence of interest and relevance with the work of two young journalists in the late 2000s: Michael Hastings and Matt Taibbi.

In 2009, Taibbi unleashed a scathing series of acclaimed reporting on the financial meltdown. He famously dubbed Goldman Sachs "The Great Vampire Squid."

Bigger headlines came at the end of June 2010. Rolling Stone caused a controversy in the White House by publishing in the July issue an article by journalist Michael Hastings, titled "The Runaway General",[14] quoting criticism of General Stanley A. McChrystal, commander of the International Security Assistance Force and U.S. Forces-Afghanistan commander, about Vice President Joe Biden and other Administration members of the White House. McChrystal resigned from his position shortly after his statements went public. In January 2012, the magazine ran exclusive excerpts from Hastings' book just prior to publication. The book, The Operators: The Wild and Terrifying Inside Story of America’s War in Afghanistan, provided a much more expansive look at McChrystal and the culture of senior American military and how they get embroiled in these wars. It has been described as a boozy, sexy account of the misadventures of America's most notorious killers. The book reached Amazon's bestseller list in the first 48 hours of release, and it received generally favorable reviews. Salon's Glenn Greenwald described it as "superb," "brave" and "eye-opening."

"The History of Rolling Stone Magazine"
Cecil Buffington (blog entry); date unknown.
http://cecilbuffington.com/photo3_40.html

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Reading Rolling Stone for political commentary is as useful as tits on a boar.
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Originally posted by olejoedad:
Reading Rolling Stone for political commentary is as useful as tits on a boar.

How about an on-air interview (just under 5 minutes) with Evanston (IL) alderwoman Robin Rue Simmons about the Evanston Reparations program?

It's from Fox 32 Chicago. A Fox News affiliated TV station.

YouTube video content
https://youtu.be/5uGEKSx7Vhg

I guess I'm open to this kind of thing, but before that, I'm here to report on it.

As I so often say, it's not like this Totally O/T section of Pennock's is drowning in a daily tsunami of new Topics and Messages.

Is it?

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Originally posted by cliffw:
Reparations have been paid for the last 50+ years.


 
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Originally posted by rinselberg:
This is especially for cliffw. I have my fingers crossed that he sees this.


I see everything.

 
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Originally posted by rinselberg:
[SIZE=2]Rolling Stone is a US-based magazine devoted to music, liberal politics, and popular culture that is published every two weeks.


I think you are GONZO. Not that it is a bad thing. Though you fancy yourself as a reporter, you are actually a parrot.

If you were a reporter, why would you assert in this thread that this is the first people of Negro color to get reparations ? You didn't see my comment ?

 
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Reparations have been paid for the last 50+ years.


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Affirmative Action is just one of the reparations that have been paid for 50+ years.
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My ancestors were Irish, came over during the Potato(e) Famine in 1848.

How much do I get?
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Affirmative Action is just one of the reparations that have been paid for 50+ years.



Over 620,000 dead from freeing the Demorat's slaves during the Civil War put PAID to any so-called "reparations".

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Over 620,000 dead from freeing the Demorat's slaves during the Civil War put PAID to any so-called "reparations".


Let's look at that from a different angle.

How much reparations do the ancestors of the 620,000 dead get ?
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The bad news? They get to pay for it all anyway. And guess what the good news is? It all comes crashing to an end not long after a certain working demographic is replaced by another majority population. Of course the middle class disappears then too.
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It's hard to think of anything less relevant to the idea of Reparations with a capital "R" (Reparations as it is commonly a current news topic) than the loss in human lives and injuries and property loss on the Union side in the Civil War.

Like there's some unbroken chain of continuity between the Democratic Party of today and the Democratic Party of Lincoln's time or the time of (classic) "Jim Crow."

I'm not sure whether those are two separate ideas--the sacrifices and losses on the Union side, and the more distant history of the Democratic Party--or just one idea, in this context.

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Originally posted by rinselberg:

It's hard to think of anything less relevant to the idea of Reparations with a capital "R" (Reparations as it is commonly a current news topic) than the loss in human lives and injuries and property loss on the Union side in the Civil War.

Like there's some unbroken chain of continuity between the Democratic Party of today and the Democratic Party of Lincoln's time or the time of (classic) "Jim Crow."

I'm not sure whether those are two separate ideas--the sacrifices and losses on the Union side, and the more distant history of the Democratic Party--or just one idea, in this context.





Actually, your comment is an example of something that is less relevant.....

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I'm not saying that I'm wildly in favor of Reparations.

I am saying that trying to counter the idea of Reparations with language that refers to the Union's losses during the Civil War or language that refers to "Democrats" does not cut any ice, on the (ice hockey) playing surface of Logic and Fairness. That's a "doink."

I think that Reparations needs to be discussed only within the framework of specific proposals or in this case, a newly inaugurated project at the municipal level of government.

Trying to discuss Reparations in general? Not a framework for any illuminating or cogent kind of discussion.

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Originally posted by rinselberg:

I'm not saying that I'm wildly in favor of Reparations.

I am saying that trying to counter the idea of Reparations with language that refers to the Union's losses during the Civil War or language that refers to "Democrats" does not cut any ice, on the (ice hockey) playing surface of Logic and Fairness. That's a "doink."

I think that Reparations needs to be discussed only within the framework of specific proposals or in this case, a newly inaugurated project at the municipal level of government.

Trying to discuss Reparations in general? Not a framework for any illuminating or cogent kind of discussion.


Like 40 acres and a mule?
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I think that Reparations needs to be discussed only within the framework of.....



NO

You do not get to determine which direction any discussion goes or the rules for any discussion.

Leftists always trying to control other people's speech.....

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Illuminating and cogent discussion?

I don't know that you would recognize that if it bit you on glutus maximus.
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Illuminating and cogent discussion?

I don't know that you would recognize that if it bit you on glutus maximus.


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