I thought theyd been fighting for him for years, and is why hes in the embassy that wont extradite him. Maybe Im missing something... Pretty sure Sweden wants him for fictitious rape charges and the US asked if they would send him to the US first.
Besides another slap at America, what does this do? What is the positive of commuting the sentence of a convict?
Allows the person to make millions writing a book, and talk show rounds.. can't stand trial again so, he free to throw some more info out , remember Obama is burning the place down as he leaves
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Allows the person to make millions writing a book, and talk show rounds.. can't stand trial again so, he free to throw some more info out , remember Obama is burning the place down as he leaves
It's exactly what he is doing. Creating such a mess that it'll take even longer to get things right.
While I'm sure there will be some who defend Obama and his decisions, this makes me sick. Clear a path to the head, I think I'm gonna puke............
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Allows the person to make millions writing a book, and talk show rounds.
Only if he does it for free. The law says (not that it matters, I guess) you can't process from your crimes. Mannings sentence was commuted (meaning he gets to go home). It WASN'T pardoned (meaning it was basically dismissed).
Only if he does it for free. The law says (not that it matters, I guess) you can't process from your crimes. Mannings sentence was commuted (meaning he gets to go home). It WASN'T pardoned (meaning it was basically dismissed).
Ron---I agree. Despicable.
If it's a book on the mil culture of evil... it isn't about his crimes now is it.
Originally posted by WBailey1041: Free on May 17th instead of 2045 ...
Why not January 21st 2017 ?
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Originally posted by blackrams: ... I think I'm gonna puke............
Ron, you have no idea ... of how bad it's gonna be.
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Originally posted by maryjane: Snowden shoulda got a sex change and he'd be home free too?
Bradley Manning has not had a sex change yet, just hormone replacement treatments. He will be released after the sex change operation, paid for by the military you and Ron served so proudly for, and the American taxpayers.
What is a sex change operation ? A misnomer if you ask me. Bradley Mannning's DNA, nor his RNA, can be changed. Hormone replacement may be able to endow him with big tits but they will never produce milk. Nor will he ever be able to give birth. He will just be an extreme cross dresser.
I have an old pair of tree branch lopers, kinda dull, a little rusty, but I would volunteer to Lorena Bobbit him. If HE would like, he could choose my fishing knife for the procedure.
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Originally posted by randye: Rather odd due to the fact that the United States government has NOT asked for the extradition of Julian Assange.
How could they prosecute Assaunge ? They said Bradley's actions did not harm the United States. Even though Bradley's work was found when Oama Bin Laden was shot dead.
If the Westboro Church is allowed to spout their bile, chasing down Veteran funerals, we ought to be able to hound Bradley relentlessly.
The “Iraq War Logs” published by WikiLeaks revealed that thousands of reports of prisoner abuse and torture had been filed against the Iraqi Security Forces. Medical evidence detailed how prisoners had been whipped with heavy cables across the feet, hung from ceiling hooks, suffered holes being bored into their legs with electric drills, urinated upon, and sexually assaulted. These logs also revealed the existence of “Frago 242,” an order implemented in 2004 not to investigate allegations of abuse against the Iraqi government. This order is a direct violation of the UN Convention Against Torture, which was ratified by the United States in 1994. The Convention prohibits the Armed Forces from transferring a detainee to other countries “where there are substantial grounds for believing that he would be in danger of being subjected to torture.” According to the State Department’s own reports, the U.S. government was already aware that the Iraqi Security Forces engaged in torture
U.S. defense contractors were brought under much tighter supervision after leaked diplomatic cables revealed that they had been complicit in child trafficking activities. DynCorp — a powerful defense contracting firm that claims almost $2 billion per year in revenue from U.S. tax dollars — threw a party for Afghan security recruits featuring boys purchased from child traffickers for entertainment. DynCorp had already faced human trafficking charges before this incident took place. According to the cables, Afghan Interior minister Hanif Atmar urged the assistant US ambassador to “quash” the story. These revelations have been a driving factor behind recent calls for the removal of all U.S. defense contractors from Afghanistan
The Guantanamo Files describe how detainees were arrested based on what the New York Times referred to as highly subjective evidence. For example, some poor farmers were captured after they were found wearing a common watch or a jacket that was the same as those also worn by Al Queda operatives. How quickly innocent prisoners were released was heavily dependent on their country of origin. Because the evidence collected against Guantanamo prisoners is not permissible in U.S. courts, the U.S. State Department has offered millions of dollars to other countries to take and try our prisoners. According to a U.S. diplomatic cable written on April 17, 2009, the Association for the Dignity of Spanish Prisoners requested that the National Court indict six former U.S. officials for creating a legal framework that allegedly permitted torture against five Spanish prisoners at Guantanamo. However, “Senator Mel Martinez… met Acting FM [Foreign Minister] Angel Lossada… on April 15. Martinez… underscored that the prosecutions would not be understood or accepted in the U.S. and would have an enormous impact on the bilateral relationship”
Even though the Bush and Obama Administrations maintained publicly that there was no official count of civilian casualties, the Iraq and Afghanistan War Logs showed that this claim was false. Between 2004 and 2009, the U.S. government counted a total of 109,000 deaths in Iraq, with 66,081 classified as non-combatants. This means that for every Iraqi death that is classified as a combatant, two innocent men, women or children are also killed
The “Collateral Murder” video released by Wikileaks depicted the indiscriminate slaying of over a dozen people in the Iraqi suburb of New Baghdad, including two journalists working for Reuters. The Reuters news organization has repeatedly been denied in its attempts to obtain the video through the Freedom of Information Act. The video, shot from an Apache helicopter gun-sight, clearly shows the unprovoked slaying of a wounded Reuters photographer and his rescuers. Two young children who were present in the attempted rescue were also seriously wounded. Ethan McCord, a U.S. army soldier who can be seen in the video carrying wounded children to safety, has said that whoever revealed this video is a “hero.” An internal U.S. military investigation concluded that the incident was consistent with the military’s “Rules of Engagement.”
According to the “National Humint Collection Directive,” a secret document that was signed by Secretary of State Hillary Clinton and published by WikiLeaks, US diplomats were authorized to collect “biometric” and other sensitive information from top UN officials as well as UN representatives from other nations. The leaked documents show that “biometric data” specifically included samples of the officials’ DNA, among other forms of personally identifying information. They also ordered diplomats to collect credit card information and secure passwords. These activities contravene the 1946 UN Convention
A cable from December 2008 showed that officials from the International Atomic Energy Agency had warned the government about the danger posed by potential seismic activity in the area. The official stated that Japan’s “safety guides for seismic safety have only been revised three times in the last 35 years.” He also noted that the government had fought against a court order to close down another nuclear facility that was not adequately prepared for an earthquake. After being ignored by the Japanese government, the IAEA official also warned the U.S. ambassador to Japan about the looming threat from possible earthquake damage. These warnings went unheeded. The International Atomic Energy Agency has now ranked the Fukushima disaster as severe as Chernobyl
Since December 2009, President Obama has authorized a secret drone bombing campaign in Yemen. A year later, WikiLeaks revealed that Yemen’s President Saleh had agreed that his regime would “continue saying the bombs are ours, not yours.” These drone strikes have killed large numbers of civilians. One of the strikes that occurred shortly before the cable in question was written had killed 55 people, 41 of whom were classified as civilians (21 of these were children) according to a report by Amnesty International (11). This US military operation in Yemen, which persists to this day, has not been officially acknowledged by our government.
“The liberties of a people never were, nor ever will be, secure, when the transactions of their rulers may be concealed from them.” – United States founding father Patrick Henry
Originally posted by newf: “The liberties of a people never were, nor ever will be, secure, when the transactions of their rulers may be concealed from them.” – United States founding father Patrick Henry
The liberties of our enemy will be secure, when the transactions of their enemy (the United States of America) are availed to our enemy.
I support Edward Snowden. Bradley Manning ? I would piss on his grave. Maybe not. I hear tell he had mental issues and should have never been allowed into the military. My guess is that he got in because of social justice, .
Has anyone thought that Assange might have something on either Obama or the Obama administration and Assange threatened to release it unless Manning's sentence was commuted? Nothing to back that up of course but a thought. Manning is the quasi-poster child of Wikileaks and made them mainstream news. Maybe, maybe not. But with everything that has happened over the last year or so with Wikileaks and politics, I think almost anything is possible anymore. The commuting of Manning's sentence has people screaming from both sides of the aisle right now. So why now? Why not earlier? Why not right after the election? Just kind of an odd move on the President's part that leaves a lot of unanswered questions.
I dont have any problem with wikileaks putting out truthful info that we otherwise would not ever know about...like Hillarys crap. As long as it dont put GOOD Americans in actual harms way, let em at it. Without wikileaks Hillary probably would have won because few knew about her illegal and shady goings on. Everyone would have worshiped her as an angel.
Has anyone thought that Assange might have something on either Obama or the Obama administration and Assange threatened to release it unless Manning's sentence was commuted? Nothing to back that up of course but a thought. Manning is the quasi-poster child of Wikileaks and made them mainstream news. Maybe, maybe not. But with everything that has happened over the last year or so with Wikileaks and politics, I think almost anything is possible anymore. The commuting of Manning's sentence has people screaming from both sides of the aisle right now. So why now? Why not earlier? Why not right after the election? Just kind of an odd move on the President's part that leaves a lot of unanswered questions.
He did it because everyone is pressuring him to pardon Snowden, but he doesn't want have the balls to do that.
Chelsea Manning released documents affirming things we pretty much all already knew. It just wasn't something people talked about. It was good that we were able to discuss it all, and I think overall it was a net positive. But she also just released everything indiscriminately. That was more careless, it showed a complete lack of thought and could have really hurt the U.S. It's only by chance that it didn't.
Snowden released Top Secret intel, and confirmed things only conspiracy theorists previously believed. He basically started this whole conversation on digital privacy. He also released things in pockets directly to the media. It's targeted. He also, by need, became buddy-buddy with enemies of the country in order to survive.
They're two different cases. Some say Snowden is a hero. Some a traitor. But there are a lot of people that do want him pardoned because they believe he exposed things we had a right to know as citizens. Obama responded by commuting Chelsea's sentence to send a message to those people: "I do not support what Snowden did. If you are going to release documents, do it here at home, where we have control over you." Chelsea is/was harmless, but future leaks are dangerous. If people believe they will be okay if they release documents and stay in America, people who are thinking of releasing information won't flee outside of America's grasp like Snowden did.
Assange having something on Obama makes no sense. He is about to leave office. His legacy is set.
Has anyone thought that Assange might have something on either Obama or the Obama administration and Assange threatened to release it unless Manning's sentence was commuted? Nothing to back that up of course but a thought. Manning is the quasi-poster child of Wikileaks and made them mainstream news. Maybe, maybe not. But with everything that has happened over the last year or so with Wikileaks and politics, I think almost anything is possible anymore. The commuting of Manning's sentence has people screaming from both sides of the aisle right now. So why now? Why not earlier? Why not right after the election? Just kind of an odd move on the President's part that leaves a lot of unanswered questions.
This is one of several thought trails I see in comment sections of liberal news articles--a semi-justification for the pardon.
I see it more as platitudes to appease the gay/lesbian/trans gender sector. Hollyweird is applauding the pardon.
. If people believe they will be okay if they release documents and stay in America, people who are thinking of releasing information won't flee outside of America's grasp like Snowden did.
Assange having something on Obama makes no sense. He is about to leave office. His legacy is set.
As for the 1st.. only a fool would think staying in the country after releasing doc's will be ok.. anyone with a brain would know they are dead man walking..
as for the 2nd.. "Assange having something on Obama makes no sense" you think so.. What if it was something that can put him behind bars.. Him almost out of office has zero to do with it.. and the may release is most likely so obma can collect that 51 million that went missing in the middle east and get out of dodge before Assange or snowden cook his ass
As for the 1st.. only a fool would think staying in the country after releasing doc's will be ok.. anyone with a brain would know they are dead man walking..
as for the 2nd.. "Assange having something on Obama makes no sense" you think so.. What if it was something that can put him behind bars.. Him almost out of office has zero to do with it.. and the may release is most likely so obma can collect that 51 million that went missing in the middle east and get out of dodge before Assange or snowden cook his ass
I mean... Chelsea is literally walking proof that's not true. And my opinion is that's what they want future leakers to believe.
Only if he does it for free. The law says (not that it matters, I guess) you can't process from your crimes. Mannings sentence was commuted (meaning he gets to go home). It WASN'T pardoned (meaning it was basically dismissed).
Ron---I agree. Despicable.
Im not entirely sure, but I think you cant profit from a crime WHILE YOUR INCARCERATED. I dont think it applies at all if you write a book and sell it after your freed. I also dont know if commuted or pardoned has anything to do with it.
Originally posted by randye: Maybe, but it is a 100% sure bet that POS won't be getting any VA benefits or any free sex operations from the government.
I am not so sure. Why the May 17th 2017 date set ? I do hope he has to fund HIS own perversion.
Heh, , does anyone think anyone is gonna wanna have sex with BRUCE Katlin Jenner, or BRADLEY Chelsea Manning ?
Well, he/she/it better get busy and sign up for Obama care quickly so that we the tax payers can continue to pay for it's hormone treatment now that it doesn't get it from the prison doctors.
Chelsea Manning files for US Senate bid in Maryland Posted: Jan 13, 2018 12:06 PM PST Updated: Jan 13, 2018 12:06 PM PST
BETHESDA, Md. -
Chelsea Manning will run for the U.S. Senate in Maryland.
The transgender former Army officer who was convicted of leaking classified documents filed her statement of candidacy with the Federal Election Commission on Thursday.
The Washington Post reported Saturday that Manning will challenge Democrat Ben Cardin. He has served two terms and is an overwhelming favorite to win.
The 30-year-old Manning listed a North Bethesda address in her FEC filing. She is running as a Democrat.
Manning was convicted of leaking classified information and spent more than six years behind bars.
Known as Bradley Manning at the time of her 2010 arrest, Manning came out as transgender after being sentenced. President Barack Obama granted clemency to Manning before leaving office.
Then, President Oprah can appoint him(?) to a cabinet position, perhaps Homeland Security or Veteran's Affairs. Out of the closet and into the cabinet!
I still got five left.....I may need them.
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Here is something that I have found troubling for some time now, regarding "news coverage". I Googled this story and read the first five results. The reports were from varying publications including Yahoo, WaPo and several local papers from different geographic locations. In each case, the first five paragraphs from each "news source" were identical, word for word. No one is investigating. America is being spoon fed. This is the information being used by a large percentage of the population when they go to the polls.
America better wake up and start thinking for themselves. I know exactly why Trump uses the language he uses. It gets people's attention.
When I was a child attending a small Southern Baptist church in Pensacola, the preacher would speak calmly and softly as he looked over the congregation. When he noticed some were beginning to nod off, he would raise his hand to the sky and shout as he slammed his fist into the pulpit. No one slept through that.
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Not terribly different from decades goneby Willie.
Surely you are old enough to remember that AP/UPI 'spoonfed' dozens if not hundreds of newspapers and radio news stations around the world long before cable news and the internet?
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Great deal for him.
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, does anyone think anyone is gonna wanna have sex with BRUCE Katlin Jenner, or BRADLEY Chelsea Manning ?
